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Bard Feedback + Bugs
Atash
Member, Alpha Two
Hello,
I have been playing bard for a good Amount of time and some might know me as bardash and here are some feedbacks and Bugs related to Bard.
-Melodies:
In general I'm happy with all of them except but too many things will turn them off even getting on a mount let me have the melody running when im on my mount but melody effect be disable unless i get off of my mount and below are my two complains regarding melodies:
1) Cathartic, Personally I have not seen a single bard use this melody in pvp or pve, Consider increasing the Life steal chance from 25% to 33% or allow us to be able to stack the bleed or add some other debuff/buffs to it that every party member with this melody apply that debuff upon landing their weapon finishers.
2) Music Mastery: Counterpoint aka 2x Melody:
-Reasons we dont use it like at all:
1) any silence, sleep, trip, nejash poison or getting on mount will disable my melody which takes me 20 second to let the first melody charge up fully to turn on the second one and wait 20 second for it to charge and switch back to the first melody which is 1/2 second left of it by the time second melody is charged.
So why should i do all that every 20 second for it to be cancel easily and take long time at reduced efficiency as well to run them back up again?
2)my 2x melody doesn't allow me to proc both of their resonance stack on my auto attack finisher.
3) Duration is too little again every 20 second we have to switch
Suggestion: maybe add a saga that when we use the saga it allows us to have both songs run for longer time or simple increase the duration and allow 2x proc on weapon finisher for both melody buffs like mana and dps procs at same time if this is too much of a buff then idk i like to see other ppl suggestions or your devs can surprise us :]
-Abilities:
1) Mock aka tomato doesn't need line of sight which is weird shooting tomato out of (sry) my ass make it so it needs line of sight like marionette.
2) silence animation needs some love. maybe a slap animation when we silence someone or a joker face that is laughing or add a laughing sound to it which would be nice.
3) misdirection does work sometimes and we dont know how far/close to be to our allies and enemy in order for it to work discerption needs some love and ability it self is not reliable to work all the time in pve but in pvp its a must to break cc which is nice.
4) Dark Lullaby nerf was too hard consider a little buff its only useful for adding cc right now but not even all the time since dmg is too low and also takes a few second to apply the stun i would just rather to stagger ppl and then into mesmerizing dance for the stun which is 1sec less but still i prefer that.
5) Dynamism is Buggy when you spec into it and buffing a caravan after a server worker change or might be something else it wont allow me to target the caravan to buff it so i have to unspec it press confirm then spec into it and press confirm for it to be fixed and i have realized that sometimes it doesn't even apply the pep buff to nearby allies and caravans when i use flourish.
6) Dance Mastery Energy: sometimes gets bugged and mesmerize dance doesn't refresh my flourish CD and it usually happens when i switch back from dance mastery power to energy when i need to catch someone fast or run away but i have not been able to find a way to reproduce it effectivly but it does happen often.
7) Get of stage Knock back Doesnt work properly most of the times to send the target away you have to use it a lot to know how to aim it in order for the target to be pushed back.
-Stories:
i Do love most of them and how they give me different options depending on the team and situation but some of them need some love.
also i would like to see stories have a white effect around the icon when they are active for example when we make a saga with our stories or when a melody is running there is a white effect either around the saga icon or as for melodies icon and its clear that it is active i would love to see the same effect for each saga when we have one active because where there are too many buffs on my bar i dont really see how much time is left on my story buff on me to reuse it again so i dont lose the buff.
1) Destiny provides 5% base accuracy and if used again to turn it into destiny II its only 8% base accuracy which is really low to consider and also now enough situations to use it even for rouge and bards evasions its nothing bard gets 50% with nimble dance and rouge has like idk 80% evasion with abilities and this 8% accuracy seems like a joke i rather removing their buff with my maddening dance or just wait till their evasion duration is over.
2) Same goes for triumph 3% to start with and 5% when reused which again its too little make it like 10% or rework it.
-Sagas:
Some sagas are in good place which are useful in pve or pvp but some of them just doesn't make sense to even make for example:
1) apocalypse: this saga is so weak and has such a long CD (i do love the CD if it was useful and it does make sense for a big spell only if the spell was big) and does basically nothing its like you are level 25 and a goblin from lionhold is attacking you so please consider a dmg buff not a rework so it would make sense for me to spend 2 points for this ability and 2min CD to use it also animation is a bit lame a Disney Castle with a dragon head, really? let me see a dragon appear behind me and Breath fire or a phoenix also when i use the ability my bard start floating and the book will open in my hand and all pages are going crazy which is so nice to see but then it all disappears in a way that makes me say what?? i would have love to see when the cast time is over for my bard to slam the book and close it same way it opens and pages are rolling when cast starts.
2) Return to verra: its great and has its own use but animation is very bad, i mean you made such good animation for lovely serenade, hymn of mind plus all other dances and you came up with this animation for return to verra aka my big healing saga?
3) myth of creation: this is just bad it needs a rework or what i can think of is that the debuff applied by myth of creation cant be cleansed until the duration runs out, i need to spend 4 skill points into this again with 2min CD for it to be cleansed in 1s?
4) Horrors of the void: another saga which not only bad to use but also a very bad animation tbh this has to be fully reworked again i need to spend 4 skill points which i could very much use in other abilities that are good rather than this saga.
So please Consider a rework or buff for the sagas above so bard would have more unique playstyle and a good reason for us to sacrifice other abilities and skill points just to use this sagas and stories :]
added last minute which i forgot make the Bard circle icon to be have numbers like a clock which has 12 numbers but bard should be divided to 10 so we can see our resonance stack numbers better i have added a pic to show what i mean.
I have been playing bard for a good Amount of time and some might know me as bardash and here are some feedbacks and Bugs related to Bard.
-Melodies:
In general I'm happy with all of them except but too many things will turn them off even getting on a mount let me have the melody running when im on my mount but melody effect be disable unless i get off of my mount and below are my two complains regarding melodies:
1) Cathartic, Personally I have not seen a single bard use this melody in pvp or pve, Consider increasing the Life steal chance from 25% to 33% or allow us to be able to stack the bleed or add some other debuff/buffs to it that every party member with this melody apply that debuff upon landing their weapon finishers.
2) Music Mastery: Counterpoint aka 2x Melody:
-Reasons we dont use it like at all:
1) any silence, sleep, trip, nejash poison or getting on mount will disable my melody which takes me 20 second to let the first melody charge up fully to turn on the second one and wait 20 second for it to charge and switch back to the first melody which is 1/2 second left of it by the time second melody is charged.
So why should i do all that every 20 second for it to be cancel easily and take long time at reduced efficiency as well to run them back up again?
2)my 2x melody doesn't allow me to proc both of their resonance stack on my auto attack finisher.
3) Duration is too little again every 20 second we have to switch
Suggestion: maybe add a saga that when we use the saga it allows us to have both songs run for longer time or simple increase the duration and allow 2x proc on weapon finisher for both melody buffs like mana and dps procs at same time if this is too much of a buff then idk i like to see other ppl suggestions or your devs can surprise us :]
-Abilities:
1) Mock aka tomato doesn't need line of sight which is weird shooting tomato out of (sry) my ass make it so it needs line of sight like marionette.
2) silence animation needs some love. maybe a slap animation when we silence someone or a joker face that is laughing or add a laughing sound to it which would be nice.
3) misdirection does work sometimes and we dont know how far/close to be to our allies and enemy in order for it to work discerption needs some love and ability it self is not reliable to work all the time in pve but in pvp its a must to break cc which is nice.
4) Dark Lullaby nerf was too hard consider a little buff its only useful for adding cc right now but not even all the time since dmg is too low and also takes a few second to apply the stun i would just rather to stagger ppl and then into mesmerizing dance for the stun which is 1sec less but still i prefer that.
5) Dynamism is Buggy when you spec into it and buffing a caravan after a server worker change or might be something else it wont allow me to target the caravan to buff it so i have to unspec it press confirm then spec into it and press confirm for it to be fixed and i have realized that sometimes it doesn't even apply the pep buff to nearby allies and caravans when i use flourish.
6) Dance Mastery Energy: sometimes gets bugged and mesmerize dance doesn't refresh my flourish CD and it usually happens when i switch back from dance mastery power to energy when i need to catch someone fast or run away but i have not been able to find a way to reproduce it effectivly but it does happen often.
7) Get of stage Knock back Doesnt work properly most of the times to send the target away you have to use it a lot to know how to aim it in order for the target to be pushed back.
-Stories:
i Do love most of them and how they give me different options depending on the team and situation but some of them need some love.
also i would like to see stories have a white effect around the icon when they are active for example when we make a saga with our stories or when a melody is running there is a white effect either around the saga icon or as for melodies icon and its clear that it is active i would love to see the same effect for each saga when we have one active because where there are too many buffs on my bar i dont really see how much time is left on my story buff on me to reuse it again so i dont lose the buff.
1) Destiny provides 5% base accuracy and if used again to turn it into destiny II its only 8% base accuracy which is really low to consider and also now enough situations to use it even for rouge and bards evasions its nothing bard gets 50% with nimble dance and rouge has like idk 80% evasion with abilities and this 8% accuracy seems like a joke i rather removing their buff with my maddening dance or just wait till their evasion duration is over.
2) Same goes for triumph 3% to start with and 5% when reused which again its too little make it like 10% or rework it.
-Sagas:
Some sagas are in good place which are useful in pve or pvp but some of them just doesn't make sense to even make for example:
1) apocalypse: this saga is so weak and has such a long CD (i do love the CD if it was useful and it does make sense for a big spell only if the spell was big) and does basically nothing its like you are level 25 and a goblin from lionhold is attacking you so please consider a dmg buff not a rework so it would make sense for me to spend 2 points for this ability and 2min CD to use it also animation is a bit lame a Disney Castle with a dragon head, really? let me see a dragon appear behind me and Breath fire or a phoenix also when i use the ability my bard start floating and the book will open in my hand and all pages are going crazy which is so nice to see but then it all disappears in a way that makes me say what?? i would have love to see when the cast time is over for my bard to slam the book and close it same way it opens and pages are rolling when cast starts.
2) Return to verra: its great and has its own use but animation is very bad, i mean you made such good animation for lovely serenade, hymn of mind plus all other dances and you came up with this animation for return to verra aka my big healing saga?
3) myth of creation: this is just bad it needs a rework or what i can think of is that the debuff applied by myth of creation cant be cleansed until the duration runs out, i need to spend 4 skill points into this again with 2min CD for it to be cleansed in 1s?
4) Horrors of the void: another saga which not only bad to use but also a very bad animation tbh this has to be fully reworked again i need to spend 4 skill points which i could very much use in other abilities that are good rather than this saga.
So please Consider a rework or buff for the sagas above so bard would have more unique playstyle and a good reason for us to sacrifice other abilities and skill points just to use this sagas and stories :]
added last minute which i forgot make the Bard circle icon to be have numbers like a clock which has 12 numbers but bard should be divided to 10 so we can see our resonance stack numbers better i have added a pic to show what i mean.
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Comments
5% for merriment is too low. needs buffed
epic melody reso proc is also weak.
id like to see dynamism increase pep for more than 1s or make pep faster then its default value
maddening dance could use a damage buff
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