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Changing how raw gatherables and processing work
Botagar
Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
Hello New Aela.
Back in my day, I played a little bit of EvE online mining my way into fortune.
I feel that EvE got the depth/complexity right for gathering and processing, keeping things simple enough to start with but complex enough that there's room for specialisation.
[style size="30px"]Resource Gathering & Processing[/style]
[style size="24px"]Mining Rocks[/style]
Instead of having rocks like "Granite (Rarity)" which is then processed into a granit mold or generic dust of some kind...
Split it out into distinct types of granite, each with different static Rarities assign to the types.
Eg.
When it comes to processing, you can process them into molds and such as you can now OR...
Break them down for Ores and Minerals.
Eg.
Fractured Granite (Common) Composition per unit
Quartz: 90%
Alumina: 8%
Iron Ore: 1%
Calcium: 1%
Primordial Granite (Legendary) Composition per unit
Quartz: 50%
Alumina: 15%
Iron Ore: 10%
Titanium Ore: 8%
Gold Ore: 5%
Diamond: 5%
Mithril Ore: 4%
Phosphorous Ore: 3%
You can then specialise in your artisan tree to improve your extraction proficiency for either a rock type or a specific mineral/ore type.
Let's say you start at 50% extraction efficiency and you have 10 units of Fractured Granite, processing it would result in:
Quartz: 9
Alumina: 0-1 (80% chance for 1)
Iron Ore: 0-1 (10% chance for 1)
Calcium: 0-1 (10% chance for 1)
These materials could then be refined further (the ores) or be inputs to other recipes.
Furthermore, have different sub-biomes influence slightly the composition of the minerals within.
ie.
Fractured Granite (Common) Composition per unit mined from dry areas
Quartz: 85%
Alumina: 8%
Iron Ore: 5%
Calcium: 2%
Fractured Granite (Common) Composition per unit mined from swamps
Quartz: 85%
Iron Ore: 15%
When you're close enough to interact with the mineral, you should be able to see the rough compositions for the elements you have the skills to detect. Keep other elements greyed out to give you incentive to progress your mining/prospecting tree.
Prospectors can track down rocks with the highest concentrations of a mineral or ore that they are after.
I'm using granite as an example, but all rock types would get this treatment.
[style size="24px"]Mining Ores/Minerals[/style]
Similarly, ores and minerals should be split into types, with each type assigned a rarity. Many ore types can share rarities as not all ore types might be found in all places.
Ores containing copper Eg.
* Chalcopyrite (Common)
* Malachite (Uncommon)
* Bornite (Uncommon)
* Covellite (Rare)
* Azurite (Rare)
* Chalcocite (Rare)
* etc...
Chalcopyrite (Common)
Copper: 50%
Dregs: 40%
Lead: 5%
Silver: 3%
Gold: 2%
Covellite (Rare)
Copper: 70%
Arsenic: 15% --- Makes mining this ore toxic, needs special gear
Quartz: 15%
Chalcocite (Rare)
Copper: 80%
Silver: 13%
Gold: 7%
Same thing for Minerals/Gems etc...
A Side note on minables...
We should have more types of minable nodes.
[style size="24px"]Harvesting[/style]
Introduce the already planned young/adult plants. Maybe add an aged & wilting stage for some types of plants.
Also split out the plants into individual types with associated rarity.
Eg. Daffodil
You can guess how refining should be based on the mining suggestions.
A side effect of having rarity tied to its own resource type means that in the overworld, someone doesn't need to blanket tap out all resources to find the rarer types, leaving the less rare to those who are still trying to work up their skills. You can even tie being able to distinguish higher rarity nodes to prospecting or some active skills in the gathering/processing tree.
Obviously all names and material breakdowns are just examples.
I'm aware I didn't touch fishing... my brain juice has run out.
Back in my day, I played a little bit of EvE online mining my way into fortune.
I feel that EvE got the depth/complexity right for gathering and processing, keeping things simple enough to start with but complex enough that there's room for specialisation.
[style size="30px"]Resource Gathering & Processing[/style]
[style size="24px"]Mining Rocks[/style]
Instead of having rocks like "Granite (Rarity)" which is then processed into a granit mold or generic dust of some kind...
Split it out into distinct types of granite, each with different static Rarities assign to the types.
Eg.
- Fractured Granite (Common)
- Weathered Granite (Uncommon)
- Granite (Rare)
- Infused Granite (Heroic)
- Heartstone Granite (Epic)
- Primordial Granite (Legendary)
When it comes to processing, you can process them into molds and such as you can now OR...
Break them down for Ores and Minerals.
Eg.
Fractured Granite (Common) Composition per unit
Quartz: 90%
Alumina: 8%
Iron Ore: 1%
Calcium: 1%
Primordial Granite (Legendary) Composition per unit
Quartz: 50%
Alumina: 15%
Iron Ore: 10%
Titanium Ore: 8%
Gold Ore: 5%
Diamond: 5%
Mithril Ore: 4%
Phosphorous Ore: 3%
You can then specialise in your artisan tree to improve your extraction proficiency for either a rock type or a specific mineral/ore type.
Let's say you start at 50% extraction efficiency and you have 10 units of Fractured Granite, processing it would result in:
Quartz: 9
Alumina: 0-1 (80% chance for 1)
Iron Ore: 0-1 (10% chance for 1)
Calcium: 0-1 (10% chance for 1)
These materials could then be refined further (the ores) or be inputs to other recipes.
Furthermore, have different sub-biomes influence slightly the composition of the minerals within.
ie.
Fractured Granite (Common) Composition per unit mined from dry areas
Quartz: 85%
Alumina: 8%
Iron Ore: 5%
Calcium: 2%
Fractured Granite (Common) Composition per unit mined from swamps
Quartz: 85%
Iron Ore: 15%
When you're close enough to interact with the mineral, you should be able to see the rough compositions for the elements you have the skills to detect. Keep other elements greyed out to give you incentive to progress your mining/prospecting tree.
Prospectors can track down rocks with the highest concentrations of a mineral or ore that they are after.
I'm using granite as an example, but all rock types would get this treatment.
[style size="24px"]Mining Ores/Minerals[/style]
Similarly, ores and minerals should be split into types, with each type assigned a rarity. Many ore types can share rarities as not all ore types might be found in all places.
Ores containing copper Eg.
* Chalcopyrite (Common)
* Malachite (Uncommon)
* Bornite (Uncommon)
* Covellite (Rare)
* Azurite (Rare)
* Chalcocite (Rare)
* etc...
Chalcopyrite (Common)
Copper: 50%
Dregs: 40%
Lead: 5%
Silver: 3%
Gold: 2%
Covellite (Rare)
Copper: 70%
Arsenic: 15% --- Makes mining this ore toxic, needs special gear
Quartz: 15%
Chalcocite (Rare)
Copper: 80%
Silver: 13%
Gold: 7%
Same thing for Minerals/Gems etc...
A Side note on minables...
We should have more types of minable nodes.
- Large surface boulders which can be mined multiple times. The larger the boulder, the more times it can be mined. Boulders can use that fancy rock breaking tech to get smaller and smaller based on how much stuff is left in that node.
- Mineral veins that spawn in vertical rock/cliff faces. These should spawn in multiple mineable node lines that require traversing the vein to mine it all.
- Tunnel mines (small, medium, large), think of our current "cave" tech but it's an interactable face that as you mine it, recesses further and further. Could find encounters and treasures here. After some time, the mine collapses and resets somewhere else.
[style size="24px"]Harvesting[/style]
Introduce the already planned young/adult plants. Maybe add an aged & wilting stage for some types of plants.
Also split out the plants into individual types with associated rarity.
Eg. Daffodil
- Daffodil (Common)
- Sunbaked Daffodil (Uncommon)
- Pristine Daffodil (Rare) etc...
You can guess how refining should be based on the mining suggestions.
A side effect of having rarity tied to its own resource type means that in the overworld, someone doesn't need to blanket tap out all resources to find the rarer types, leaving the less rare to those who are still trying to work up their skills. You can even tie being able to distinguish higher rarity nodes to prospecting or some active skills in the gathering/processing tree.
Obviously all names and material breakdowns are just examples.
I'm aware I didn't touch fishing... my brain juice has run out.
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