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Risk, Reward, Difficulty & FUN: What Intrepid is Missing

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  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Ludullu wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    You can't have a "to me" notion on an objective thing.
    Except I can B) and I have. And I will >:)

    I guess technically you can.

    That is why some people fail exams. They have a different idea of some factual notion.

    Basically, you can have your own opinion on an objective matter, it just means you are objectively wrong.
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Noaani wrote: »
    Basically, you can have your own opinion on an objective matter, it just means you are objectively wrong.
    And I'm totally fine with that. Wrong opinions should exist as well, otherwise we won't have enough contrast and individuality amongst people.
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Ludullu wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    Basically, you can have your own opinion on an objective matter, it just means you are objectively wrong.
    And I'm totally fine with that. Wrong opinions should exist as well, otherwise we won't have enough contrast and individuality amongst people.
    I wouldn't say wrong opinions on objective matters should exist, everyone should strive to better understand things when ever they have the chance.

    However, wrong opinions do exist. Obviously.

    With that said, wrong opinions both shouldn't and can't be taken in to account on objective matters. Quests are created in an MMORPG by the content team, Intrepid can't suddenly say they are no longer responsible for making quests because some people don't consider quests to be content.

    If a game is talking about all the content in their game for people to participate in, they would include quests in that discussion.

    In terms of the development of the game, some people having the wrong opinion that quests arent content means nothing at all. Some people saying they do not enjoy doing quests, however, does mean something. That is something that a developer *could* act on if they wish, but someone being factually incorrect about what is and is not content is not something they could do anything with or about.
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Noaani wrote: »
    With that said, wrong opinions both shouldn't and can't be taken in to account on objective matters. Quests are created in an MMORPG by the content team, Intrepid can't suddenly say they are no longer responsible for making quests because some people don't consider quests to be content.
    And as I keeeep saying, I'm not asking Intrepid to suddenly stop making quests. I simply want them to make other content as well.

    And my initial response was to the statement that quests will somehow "solve" AoC's current issues. Except they won't solve shit. And some people won't even see those quests, cause they're trees falling in the wood, while the person is pvping in a field.
  • it is strange saying "wong opinion" in the realm of personal opinions, if it's personal then it's not important if it is right or wrong sine we are not workers of the opinion industry
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  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    edited July 17
    Arya_Yeshe wrote: »
    sine we are not workers of the opinion industry
    Talk for yourself! I have a union card for the opinionated posters B)
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Arya_Yeshe wrote: »
    it is strange saying "wong opinion" in the realm of personal opinions, if it's personal then it's not important if it is right or wrong sine we are not workers of the opinion industry

    No, what is strange is people assuming you can have an opinion on an objective matter.

    Saying "my opinion is that this word means something other than what it means" is the language version of saying "my opinion is that 2+2=37".

    Neither are things you have "opinions" on.

    Someone challenging your opinion on these things isn't weird, *HAVING* an opinion on thes things is strange, and attempting to defend an opinion on these things is strange.
  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    RonDog98 wrote: »
    We have objects data most people like quests. Maybe I’m missing the argument, but not having quests in 2025 is suicide.

    Quests are a must. But if i am not wrong -> all we have right now are either Subjugation/Kill Quests,
    or Quests to find and bring Stuff that takes an Eternity to drop and collect - right ?

    I was NEVER be able to finish the Quest with the Goblin Tra... ... "Treasures" i should bring to this one NPC near the Port-Stone of Lionhold. :sweat_smile:

    Honestly.
    It never dropped.

    I mean OOOOONNNNEEEEE TIME i had almost everything complete. Only to then delete it in frustration after the last Item refused to drop for two Days after i massacred a "felt" Estimation of half a Million Goblins.
    Who the heck am i ? Orcbolg ? lol

    Seriously that Quest had to go. Too bad. I would have really loved to complete it.



    Can We please have Quests where we gather Fish ?
    Gather Herbs ?
    Chop down XXX Sort of Tree or something ?
    Break down XXX Sorts of Ore ?

    Maybe a Quest that we can finally get some Gear for Ores (Mining) above Novice Level ?


    I was so "stuck" during Phase 1 one some things, it wasn't even funny. ;) and i realised quickly it was because i had no OUT-OF-GAME Group i should rely on, which knows exactly what to do.

    * happy suffering in filthy casual * - :mrgreen:
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    I am in the guildless Guild so to say, lol. But i won't give up. I will find my fitting Guild "one Day".
  • AzheraeAzherae Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Aszkalon wrote: »
    RonDog98 wrote: »
    We have objects data most people like quests. Maybe I’m missing the argument, but not having quests in 2025 is suicide.

    Quests are a must. But if i am not wrong -> all we have right now are either Subjugation/Kill Quests,
    or Quests to find and bring Stuff that takes an Eternity to drop and collect - right ?

    I was NEVER be able to finish the Quest with the Goblin Tra... ... "Treasures" i should bring to this one NPC near the Port-Stone of Lionhold. :sweat_smile:

    Honestly.
    It never dropped.

    I mean OOOOONNNNEEEEE TIME i had almost everything complete. Only to then delete it in frustration after the last Item refused to drop for two Days after i massacred a "felt" Estimation of half a Million Goblins.
    Who the heck am i ? Orcbolg ? lol

    Seriously that Quest had to go. Too bad. I would have really loved to complete it.



    Can We please have Quests where we gather Fish ?
    Gather Herbs ?
    Chop down XXX Sort of Tree or something ?
    Break down XXX Sorts of Ore ?

    Maybe a Quest that we can finally get some Gear for Ores (Mining) above Novice Level ?


    I was so "stuck" during Phase 1 one some things, it wasn't even funny. ;) and i realised quickly it was because i had no OUT-OF-GAME Group i should rely on, which knows exactly what to do.

    * happy suffering in filthy casual * - :mrgreen:

    This is technically another reminder, Intrepid.

    I understand why MMORPGs need to keep those super invested grindy players happy, it's because of the sheer number of people who rely on them for information/insight about the game, even within the game. Guild management lately has been reminding me of this even more.

    And I don't mean 'how to get strong', I mean 'hey did you know this thing you are talking about/asking for is actually in the game already? If you step one zone over/open a menu with a name that refers to the thing?'

    When the 'A-Rank Adventurer loses interest, a lot of fumbling 'E-Ranks' suddenly stop finding your game to be as fun for 'mysterious reasons'.

    i realised quickly it was because i had no OUT-OF-GAME Group i should rely on, which knows exactly what to do <- mysterious reasons.
    Stellar Devotion.
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Aszkalon wrote: »
    Quests are a must. But if i am not wrong -> all we have right now are either Subjugation/Kill Quests,
    or Quests to find and bring Stuff that takes an Eternity to drop and collect - right ?
    Hope you reported it, cause they dropped just fine for me.
    Aszkalon wrote: »
    Can We please have Quests where we gather Fish ?
    Gather Herbs ?
    Chop down XXX Sort of Tree or something ?
    Break down XXX Sorts of Ore ?
    I feel like you're talking about commissions w/o talking about commissions, cause you've just described artisanry commissions, even though so far they're only about gathering, rather than other professions.
    Aszkalon wrote: »
    Maybe a Quest that we can finally get some Gear for Ores (Mining) above Novice Level ?
    Considering that artisanry is tightly tied to node buildings, I highly doubt we'll see quests that reward tools.
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