A real MMO and a good game.

It's nice to see a real MMO, but I'd like to see a few extras:
- the ability to purchase one of the packs offered since January 2019;
- a unique craft that almost no one else could make except the crafter themselves, with 6 decimal places, and of course, with the crafter's name;
- the ability to create crafting workshops with unique multipliers (only on players' lands, not in cities), with 6-digit stats to experiment with the crafted product and improve the stats, which would become almost unique;
- a certain number of global skill points so as not to be at the top of the combat path AND the crafting path;
- the ability to choose to be a master Fighter or a master Crafter;
- A crafter shouldn't have the ability to be at the top of the combat path, but rather at the top of their crafting path.
- A fighter shouldn't have the ability to be at the top of crafting, but rather at the top of their combat path;
- A true crafter should need fighters to retrieve important resources in dangerous places;
- A true fighter should need crafters to obtain the best combat items;
- Ultimately, crafted items are better than looted items;
- Cities should be visually unique;
- Have buildable land throughout the world with weekly upkeep for the city that controls the area. If the upkeep isn't paid after a certain time, the land can be razed of all construction;
- An improvement to character creation;

There are still plenty of other things...

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Caww

A number of the suggestions are more about limiting a players options instead of just letting people choose which options they would like to focus on, not sure that is good gameplay.

coeurdelion

Personally, limiting to certain choices must be part of an MMO, for me the goal of an MMO is to play together. If everyone can do everything as much to play a solo game. Some want to be at the top 10 of the fighting but some would like to be at the top 10 crafters.
If I need to go to dangerous areas to pick it up, I ask a fighter to accompany me. And if the fighter needs weapons or others, I offer him my best weapons for example.
I am not saying that a fighter cannot do the pickup or craft but Cal must remain limited, in number or in quality for the pickup, and limited in quality for the craft.
It takes everything to do a world and most games do not take it into account. If you are a fighter and also want to make a crafter in this case makes her another character.
Personally I want to participate in outings in guilds but the fight is not my too much for me. But nothing allows you to demonstrate that you can be the best crafts since all items are the same.
It is my vision of things, some see it like me and others not.

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Noaani

coeurdelion wrote: »

Personally, limiting to certain choices must be part of an MMO, for me the goal of an MMO is to play together.

While I agree in principle, if you make it so you can either be a top end crafter or adventurer, all that will do is force people in to crafting on alts instead of their main.

This will segregate players more, not encourage them to play together.

The goal you have is good, but the way you are suggesting to achieve that goal will be counter-productive.

As to your notion of making packs that were available in the past available again, most of them were sold with the notion of only being available for a limited time - this includes every cosmetic they have sold to date.

I would rather Intrepid stick to their word than making them available again.

coeurdelion

Noaani wrote: »

While I agree in principle, if you make it so you can either be a top end crafter or adventurer, all that will do is force people in to crafting on alts instead of their main.

Precisely, you won't be able to be everything and you will need others to play your alt, whereas if you do everything with a single character, you don't need anyone.

This will segregate players more, not encourage them to play together.

No, if you need others.

The goal you have is good, but the way you are suggesting to achieve that goal will be counter-productive.

As to your notion of making packs that were available in the past available again, most of them were sold with the notion of only being available for a limited time - this includes every cosmetic they have sold to date.

I would rather Intrepid stick to their word than making them available again.

Since you give those who purchased the first packs the opportunity to buy all the other packs or simply one of the skins from the following packs... why not quickly cycle through the packs every 15-30 days until the game's release? But only the purchase of the packs, not the skins alone.

Noaani

coeurdelion wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

While I agree in principle, if you make it so you can either be a top end crafter or adventurer, all that will do is force people in to crafting on alts instead of their main.

Precisely, you won't be able to be everything and you will need others to play your alt, whereas if you do everything with a single character, you don't need anyone.

This makes no sense.

There is no difference in my need for other players if I am able to craft on my main or if I need an alt. In both cases, Ashes system of harvesting, processing and crafting is the primary reason I *NEED* others. That doesn't change in any way with your suggestion - I can still only do one aspect.

The fact that I would need to log over between crafting and adventuring characters with your suggestion is a barrier to players working together, as players are less likely to get involved when doing so means changing characters.

This is why it will segregate players.

coeurdelion wrote: »

Since you give those who purchased the first packs the opportunity to buy all the other packs or simply one of the skins from the following packs... why not quickly cycle through the packs every 15-30 days until the game's release? But only the purchase of the packs, not the skins alone.

Because Intrepid stated they were limited time only.

This should not need more comment than this. You, I and every other poster and potential player should want Intrepid to to stick to their word. Their word is that those packs would be up for sale for a given time, and never be made available again. We should all want this to be the case.

I would personally like some of the things from the kickstarter to be made available again. However, those things were offered as a limited time only thing, and so as much as I would like them, I want Intrepid to stick to their word even more.

unknownsystemerror

Caww

sensing a rising level of FOMO....

coeurdelion

Noaani wrote: »

This makes no sense.

There is no difference in my need for other players if I am able to craft on my main or if I need an alt. In both cases, Ashes system of harvesting, processing and crafting is the primary reason I *NEED* others. That doesn't change in any way with your suggestion - I can still only do one aspect.

If you're strong in combat, you can access dangerous areas alone. We agree on that. So you can gather without help.
Whereas, if you're just a crafter and the area is too dangerous for you, you definitely need a fighter. And the fighter absolutely needs a crafter to be a good fighter, especially for PvP.
Some people simply enjoy combat, PvE or PvP, or both, and being the best.
Others simply enjoy gathering and crafting and being the best.
But currently, all games are based on those who want to "be the best at combat," not on crafters.
Ashes of Creation raises the challenge for crafters, and I hope there will be more changes to improve these professions and make them unique.
We can talk about it for hours and remain in our own opinions... I repeat again, this is just my opinion, and my opinion only.

Ludullu

Caww wrote: »

sensing a rising level of FOMO....

How can it rise when we've been at its peak lvls since the very start?

Noaani

coeurdelion wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

This makes no sense.

There is no difference in my need for other players if I am able to craft on my main or if I need an alt. In both cases, Ashes system of harvesting, processing and crafting is the primary reason I *NEED* others. That doesn't change in any way with your suggestion - I can still only do one aspect.

If you're strong in combat, you can access dangerous areas alone. We agree on that. So you can gather without help.

No, we don't agree on this.

This being true or not is 100% a factor of world design. If Intrepid wish to make it so you always need help when harvesting, they can achieve that easier and better without your suggestion.

Whereas, if you're just a crafter and the area is too dangerous for you, you definitely need a fighter. And the fighter absolutely needs a crafter to be a good fighter, especially for PvP.

In regards to the intention of the games design, you are factually lncorrect here.

A crafter will not be able to do anything with those raw materials. They do not need someone to come and protect them while they harvest, because a crafter can not harvest.

Rather, as per the games intention, that crafter will need a harvester to harvest those materials. The crafter can not be a harvester.

However, once those materials are harvested, the crafter still can't use them. Before the crafter can use them, the harvester needs to hand them off to a processor to turn those raw materials in to something there crafter can use to make the final product.

This is how Ashes intends to achieve the goal thet you are talking about of making people more reliant on each other, a far better method of achieving that goal than your suggestion.

We can talk about it for hours and remain in our own opinions... I repeat again, this is just my opinion, and my opinion only.

This is indeed your opinion.

The problem is, it is an opinion formed without the foundation of understanding of the intended design of this game. In other words, it is an uninformed opinion.

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