Best Idea ever. DOUBLE SHIELDS.

I think Steve will come around to double shields hopefully after this post is done.

First of all the idea of having large shields equipped all the time might seem kind of strang at first.
But let say two large sheilds would be only be equipped when blocking a huge attack from a boss or pulled to much.

Now a large shield and small shield likea small buckler could be used. Just small shield would take the place of a hammer or mace so would act like a main hand weapon.

So there could also equip two small shields (main hand and offhand weapons) No different than any other blunt weapon.
Two abilities that could be in game would be.

Sheild Barrage That is when a tank with two small shields started punching and bashing a target for let say 3 seconds for like 7 hits.

Shield Storm (no reference to WoWs ability bladestorm of course)

But that would be when a tank starts going in a circle and bashes every one in range with his shield.

Sheild Throw (not really double shields just animation) This is were you have a shield in off hand weapon in main hand.
and you have a shield slung to your back that is circular in design that would be thrown. Could actaully be a shield of light for pallies that get thrown that appears on the toons back ready for the toon to reach back and throw it.

So a toon could have a shield in both hands plus a shield on their back back. Yes that is right you heard it here first.......

TRIPLE SHIELDS!!!!!!!. The toon would just temporily put the main weapon which could be a small sheild on his back during the time it takes for the shield to hit all it targtets and come back.

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ryuuji

consultant wrote: »

Well dark souls pulled it off. If you think you can have a better take on this idea well go ahead give it a try let me see your creative mind.

Wanted to add that there could be pikes sticking out of the shields and have could have sharpened edges for peircing and slashing damage.

Backstabbing enemys from stealth👍

consultant

Assumming using a mace is different than using a sword and axe different than using sword and mace there for there using the the shield instead of mace should have a different in game impact.......

There is always the Double Shield Throw that is when you throw both sheilds. So you could throw both shields at a single target chance for decapitation for large and smaller humanoids as they crisscross at the point of impact.

Plus one shield could be thrown in one direction and another to pull mobs.
Kinds of reminds me of Tron.

Now with both shields in the air and having one strapped to your back. You could conceivable throw a throw a third shield. Triple Shield Throw.

So on the way back you would catch the bigger shield then the smaller shield and putting that one on your back and then catching the third shield.

As far as changing weapons during combat it would be very easy and very inexpensive to make the one line of code that would enable tanks to switch shields in combat for the sake of class animations not really a big deal.

Plus if you a had two sheilds on your back you could have a quadriiple shield throw especially if you make the flight time a litlle longer.

Now the shield on your back could be magical and part of a special in game tanking abilty. Which leads me to me next point The Sheild Swarm Ultimate ability.

But have to go for now.

Karthos

The fact the it "worked" in Dark Souls is like saying "oh I put garlic in my chicken dish and it tasted great, therefore if I put garlic in this chocolate cake, it will be just as good!".

insomnia

insomnia wrote: »

damokles wrote: »

insomnia wrote: »

There is a giant in the PnP Palladium that does duel-wield shields. He had some razor blades strapped to its sides and it has a spike in the middle. I can't find a picture though. Think he used bashing and swiping attacks with it. I can't seem to find a way to uploade a picture, or i could have taken 1

I use an account on imgur to upload specific pictures. Creat an account for free, drag the picture into your galery, wait a few seconds, then take the picture link from imgur. Works like a charm.

But that requires alot of work don't want to make a profile for 1 picture

Thx for the help, i did it.
But because my phone is a piece of shit, i can't locate the emage on it, so i can't uploade it. I tried to send it to my e-mail, but it gets blurry and you can't read what it says

insomnia

A little information. The char, is of a race called Gigantes, which is a mutated race of giants. It is from a PnP RPG called Palladium

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Damokles

Thanks @insomnia, I was actually looking for that and could not find it xD

insomnia

damokles wrote: »

Thanks @insomnia, I was actually looking for that and could not find it xD

Neither could I

consultant

Well was not able to make the sheild swarm ability work out but ....

If the shields are round like the picture provided the there could be mini crossbows inbedded in the underside of the shields that shoot bolts. Think this would be cool for a Tank Ranger.

Now if shields had blades just like the image provided by insomnia and were attached to a chain then sheild could be throw just like in on old video game called Rygar.
When it reached the target it would spin in place for a bit and do damage with serated blades. Blades could actually come out right after it was thrown and retract on the way back. Kind of like a yo-yo

Using the same game emchanics a shield could be thrown just in a nick of time to freindly target to block incoming attack.

Wandering Mist

@consultant I'm all for giving ranged attacks to melee tanks, particularly if you are fighting in an open area where you can't easily funnel the enemies into melee range of the tank. It seems that Intrepid are already thinking along the same lines as you, as they have said there will be both a shield throw ability and friendly blocking ability.

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Cover

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Shield_throw

It might not be as flashy with the spinning blades like you describe, but the effect will be the same. What I would personally like to see is these 2 abilities combined together with a single cooldown. That way, you would have to choose whether to generate more threat by attacking the enemy, or reducing the damage your teammate's take. You could also make the blocking effect more powerful at the cost of reducing the tank's own defenses while they are protecting their ally. For example, when you throw out your shield to an ally, it blocks all damage done to that ally for x seconds, but in the meantime you cannot block attacks yourself.

Giving players options like this really makes them think more about the fight and decide when to use their abilities, rather than just using them on cooldown regardless of the situation.

consultant

One way to introduce double shields is to give this particular ability to a mini boss or boss in a raid or dungeoun.. In league of legends there is champion called galio and one of the abilities is winds of war. That is how a double shield throw would kind of look in game according to may imagination. But the options for that is only limited by creativity.

But just wanted to pointed that it could look pretty cool.

Damokles

Why do people want double shields? They could just introduce HUGE shields, that are two-handed. League of legends has Braum, a guy with one huge shield, a it looks really cool.

It could work like a movable wall, giving your teammates protection from frontal (like a dragons breath etc) AoE attacks and projectiles.

Azryil

This just strikes be as extremely boring gameplay. You're just standing around getting hit, there's on counter attacking.

Damokles

Arzosah wrote: »

This just strikes be as extremely boring gameplay. You're just standing around getting hit, there's on counter attacking.

Who says that they cant counterattack? Maybe something with cummulating the recieved damage and returning a percentage of it in one blow, or one giant shield bumerang. I just think that ONE giant shield would look way better then two smaller shields....
(They could make better/more detailed skins, with more surface area)

Captain America had those and it just didnt really look like shields, but rather fistweapons.

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Nagash

why use two shields when you can be the shield

Bot

consultant wrote: »

Well maybe that is because no one has ever presented the idea properly.

The issue with your idea is pretty much any double shield idea you could have can be implemented by just having some sort of magical shield instead. For example, throwing an ethereal shield from your back instead of actually having another shield equipped. With the shield bashing skills, would make more sense to just bash the enemy with magical fists or just smacking them back and forth with one shield.

Narys

An interesting idea but sadly I don't think we'll see it in AoC based upon what Steven has mentioned previously.

OrcLuck

I agree with the person whom stated thusly. duel wielding shields is a good B+ but 2handing a giant shield is thinking with portals.

Damokles

OrcLuck wrote: »

I agree with the person whom stated thusly. duel wielding shields is a good B+ but 2handing a giant shield is thinking with portals.

Yes, yes i do infact think with portals.

voidshadow

I wouldve liked to see it too but sadly Steven already said no

consultant

Well actually if they could put it in game just as a magical ability maybe tied to some shield or magical armour that would be a good way to see how the well it is taken by the community.

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