[Poll] Freedom to Change Gender, Race and Primary Class & Should Joining a Guild be Account-bound?

Hello,
I am strongly against forcing the players to create secondary or alt characters.

Decisions should matter, yes! However, they should NOT be permanent! There has to be very serious consequences(price, time limit[months], lore reset/reborn...) in order to make a change, instead.

I want to dedicate my life for the one character that I will be role-playing. I want to be known with one name!
The cosmetics sometimes look better on another gender or race. It would be a waste to not use them when they don't meet our expectation. We are supposed to have fun, not play while holding regret over not making the ideal decisions on our main characters. "Ideal" is not a constant variable. People's preferences continually change and new cosmetics come every month.

VOTE HERE
Primary Class:
https://strawpoll.com/4srx7de9
Gender:
https://strawpoll.com/y254sfek
Race:
https://strawpoll.com/pbzzb2sc

## Should Joining a Guild be Character-bound or Account-bound? ##

No guild leader appreciate inactive members! This is a nonnegotiable fact. Why don't choices matter here?

My suggestion is that joining a guild should be account-bound, which means all characters of one account join the guild as one member!

Imagine wanting to join in for guild quests or raid with another character, but the character isn't in the guild. Very inconvenience!!!

Account-bound system provides both active, friendly environment and organized members management.

VOTE HERE
https://strawpoll.com/5s5ea649

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Damokles

Tsukasa wrote: »

As expected. Most of the comments are going to be "I disagree because Intrepid said so".

This has nothing to do anything with Intrepid for me....
I just believe that the whole character creation would be for nothing then, we could as well just play amourphous blobs that can randomly change their apearance if they dont like their old one.
I want my character to be recognizable by my other community members, not be some kind of racial and genderless chameleon....

mcstackerson

I want the ability the change appearance and i'm cool with gender swapping but prefer nothing else.

Tsukasa wrote: »

Caeryl wrote: »

Can a new character replicate all the crafting knowledge of your other ones? No. Then a class changed character should retain no knowledge either.

Could a new character have full advancement in their religion? No. Then a class changed one should start from scratch too.

And would you enjoy throwing in legendary crafting scrolls on an alt character? You could miss a cool title.
Or repeating everything?

Why would you level the same professions on an alt? If you really did decide to level a new character, wouldn't it make more sense to level different professions so you have more options?

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Caeryl

Tsukasa wrote: »

Caeryl wrote: »

Can a new character replicate all the crafting knowledge of your other ones? No. Then a class changed character should retain no knowledge either.

Could a new character have full advancement in their religion? No. Then a class changed one should start from scratch too.

And would you enjoy throwing legendary crafting scrolls into an alt character? You could miss a cool title.
Or repeating everything? I refuse to do that even if it takes few weeks.

And here is the crux of it. You want this for convenience. You’re not meant to do everything on one character, and you fundamentally dislike the approach this game will be taking

Damokles

Tsukasa wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

branegames wrote: »

I also think the idea of being able to buy a classchange is borderline p2w

it would also kill the meta for the game as everyone who cares would pick that class

I thought about that, but then there is also "best secondary class for X primary class" that they will have to worry about. Bringing this up now is a bad excuse imo.

With a "wait 3-6 months to change primary" system. People will be lazy to create alts in the first place, or be scared that the META gets nerfed after they change primary class on main.

The META becomes less abusive than "PvP? I will switch to This character" "This class is OP. Time to main This character". What a mess.

There is a simple thing you can do to get around meta:
GIT GUD.

I ran a combat rogue from Vanilla WoW until BfA in high end PvE content (mythic dungeons+ and mythic raids) and was top 3 dps all the time. How you ask? I played the best way possible, i made my own builts and trained them until i had the dps rotation down as muscle memory.

Do you know why even ACTIVISION does not allow class changes? Not even in their shop? It is because that would take any effort from you. Shure, you would have to grind the gear again, but that is done in a few weeks with help of you friends.

The "best secondary class for X primary class" reasoning is also pretty weak tbh. I plan to run a full dps specced bard built with heavy utility, it always depends on what you bring to the table. (Soul Weaver or Siren ftw btw).

And also: It would be easier and more time efficient to just grind out a new max level character in around 3 months then to wait for a 6 month timeperiod so you can just switch on you main character.
I dont like alting either, but I love to create their own little personalities, as if they are all members of my houshold.
Damocles is my clanhead, he creates the armours, trinkets, weapons and knows the lore of vera (explorer/questmaniac).
Damokles is the clan enforcer, he raids the tombs of forgotten kings and brings them back so that Damocles can make him some new weapons and armour, he specializes also in gathering.
Damoclides is the clan shaman, he produces potions and other nifty support gear for the other two, he looks over the finances and manages the freehold.

Damokles

Tsukasa wrote: »

Caeryl wrote: »

Can a new character replicate all the crafting knowledge of your other ones? No. Then a class changed character should retain no knowledge either.

Could a new character have full advancement in their religion? No. Then a class changed one should start from scratch too.

And would you enjoy throwing legendary crafting scrolls into an alt character? and possibly miss a cool title.
Or repeating everything? I refuse to do that even if it takes few weeks.
Very discouraging.

Do you knos why the mount market in wow crashed? It was because they made all mounts account bound. That ruined farmers and crafters, who depended on those sales.

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mcstackerson

Tsukasa wrote: »

mcstackerson wrote: »

Why would you level the same professions on an alt? If you really did decide to level a new character, wouldn't it make more sense to level different professions so you have more options?

I thought characters can have every profession anyway, but only master one. Correct?
In that case, when we need to craft an item that requires master level, we either ask/hire a player to craft for us or create an alt with minimum effort on everything except one profession, if possible.

I think i miss interpreted your original argument so i'll change it, why are you earning a legendary recipe for a profession that you aren't the master of?

Are you taking it from the other crafters in your group? Seems kind of greedy.

If you find something legendary that you can't use, why not find a friend or guildy to give it to?

Does everything that drops need to be useful to your character?

...Don't tell me you want the ability to change class so you can ninja an epic item that is good for another class, switch, and use it for yourself?

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Makinoji

So before I begin, I personally love cash shop items such as:
race/gender change
appearance change
class change
skill change

Not for any p2w reason but I know that a minority of players will see it as such. I don't do alternate characters and after playing one toon for a long time, you want to switch things up a bit.
As long as there are in-game means to obtain those items as well other than the cash shop, I am cool with it.
I like options, the more the better.

I think there have said there will be a barbershop like mechanic where you'll be able to change the appearances of things like hair, makeup, skin tone and maybe appearance tweaks. Don't quote me.
I can go for that stuff.

As for the account bound character, I can see the need for it in other games but like someone mentioned IS wants the "spy" to be a thing.

Nagash

I just want to turn from human to undead for my own lore

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unknownsystemerror

Don't know what you want me to respond about. They have said that they want spying and people being able to mask their identity among their alts. You seem think I meant I was in favor of account-bound guild membership. I am not. People join and leave guilds all the time, you sound like you want to limit that behavior. Wishlisting is great. There are many impassioned threads on the forums. Changing the class names comes to mind. At the end of the day they will take that feedback and decide what works best for them. I will say that in the last couple years of following development pretty closely the only change that came from general feedback was about the QTE system that prompted large and immediate backlash. So run your strawpolls, collect your data, but since your sample size is bound to be negligible vs number of accounts confirmed I doubt it will gain much traction.

BlackBrony

Wow class change is a big no!
Look it's Steven, the famous .... was it rogue or cleric now? He keeps changing...

Names and class matter, because you get know by those, if you keep changing your name and your class, you have no online persona.

Also, if you want to "spice things up" make and alt, or do something different. I hope they dont implement this, really bad

Noaani

If you are max level of a given class, I want to know that you have leveled that class up from the start, I don't expect that you have only been that class for 30 seconds.

Limiting guild membership to one per account would simply see spys operating from different accounts (there is already a fair amount of talk about people having multiple accounts, this would just make that worse).

Race change should absolutely not be possible. The value of a race will fluctuate based on things like node affinity (though we don't know the actual impact of this, other than knowing there is "some" impact). Allowing people to change their race will simply see people change to best suit the situation their node is in at that point in time - essentially it will be done for in game advantage and so is not acceptable.

Gender changing is kind of pointless overall, other than for cosmetic purposes. My only reason for being against it is that the gender of your character is a part of your characters identity, and character identity (if not player identity) is excessively important in Ashes.

When you create a character, you create the race, gender, name and primary class. These things shouldn't ever be able to be changed, though everything else about your character should.

Virulent

Not clicking on your strawpolls.

Gender, race and primary class should not be able to be changed for anyone for any reason. It should be permanent. Anything else is destructive to the game.

Makinoji

Cujo wrote: »

Not clicking on your strawpolls.

Gender, race and primary class should not be able to be changed for anyone for any reason. It should be permanent. Anything else is destructive to the game.

I can see the argument for the race and primary class but gender should be able to change.

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