Development Roadmap?

I'm aware this has been discussed in the past, however i'd like to brings its ugly face to the surface again.
I personally would love to see some sort of timeline that shows Ideas or projections of wanted results by I.S..
Can we please have some sort of Dev Roadmap from I.S.???

Though, I understand that steven doesn't want to set a date and miss the deadline. So, if not a timeline like the example photo below, at least give a list of set goals in chronological order without dates. Hopefully the list would be a little more verbose than examples giving on the wiki.

What I'd like to see and/or know: What has been accomplished so far, Expected completion of Node video series, Which nodes, if any, have been developed fully to Metro, Which races have been completed, Which classes/archetypes have been fully designed/thoughtout so far (not only 3D modeled), Has the Sea/waves animations/environmentals been completed, Which seasons have been implemented so far, Alpha 1 goal, etc..

This picture is strictly for a visual example. I have not played nor do I endorse or am promoting this game
in any way:

Do you guys think I'm asking or expecting too much?
Thank you all for your comments.

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Nagash

We have had two timelines at this point, and both have fallen flat and IS know that. I would only expect a roadmap after alpha one, and even that is wishful thinking

ShadowVen

Nagash,

How about a chronological list without dates, that's more intrinsic than just the testing phases? Wouldn't that be possible without having to worry about meeting deadlines?

Nagash

ShadowVen wrote: »

Nagash,

How about a chronological list without dates, that's more intrinsic than just the testing phases? Wouldn't that be possible without having to worry about meeting deadlines?

Well, we have that already in the testing dates what else would you want on a games roadmap? so far we have

APOC BR
APOC CS
APOC HM
Alpha 1
Alpha 2
Beta 1
Beta 2
Release

ShadowVen

lol Nagash, did you read the OP? ;P

ShadowVen wrote: »

... Hopefully the list would be a little more verbose than examples given on the wiki.

What I'd like to see and/or know: What has been accomplished so far, Expected completion of Node video series, Which nodes, if any, have been developed fully to Metro, Which races have been completed, Which classes/archetypes have been fully designed/thoughtout so far (not only 3D modeled), Has the Sea/waves animations/environmentals been completed, Which seasons have been implemented so far, Alpha 1 goal, etc.....

Nagash

ShadowVen wrote: »

lol Nagash, did you read the OP? ;P

ShadowVen wrote: »

... Hopefully the list would be a little more verbose than examples given on the wiki.

What I'd like to see and/or know: What has been accomplished so far, Expected completion of Node video series, Which nodes, if any, have been developed fully to Metro, Which races have been completed, Which classes/archetypes have been fully designed/thoughtout so far (not only 3D modeled), Has the Sea/waves animations/environmentals been completed, Which seasons have been implemented so far, Alpha 1 goal, etc.....

I did read and like I said before they gave out roadmaps for most of these which failed. In some cases, they are not willing to talk about it, such as classes. I would love to see an exact roadmap of the game, but I don't hold much hope, heck I have seen teenagers with better management skill then intrepid.

BobzUrUncle

IS has stated that there will be no announcements until they are sure they can 100% launch something. Then we will get a date.

As @Nagash has said, we do have a timeline without dates. APOC, Alphas, Betas, Launch.

At work is your boss such a micromanager that they need that much information on what you have done and what you will do that you expect the same?
Games development, or any development, takes time and there are setbacks. Wise companies learn to keep nitty gritty details tight to their vests until launch of the project.

Undead Canuck

I would love to see all the information that you are looking for. But I don't expect to get it ahead of time. After reading pretty much the entire Wiki during their giveaway (Yay, got a griffon! Boo, no cloaks), I think they are releasing information at about the right pace. Not too much ahead of time, as they want to give people something to find out after AoC has launched.

Azathoth

I have been adamant in the past about debating the negatives of this type of thread/post. However, over the past 6 months it has appeared to me that the only roadmap IS had was for Apoc.

Therefore, I too would like to change my vote.
I would like them to post a time scale. I would like them to update it as they go along it. Some people will be upset when deadlines are missed, which I still believe would be unreasonable, but at this point it would be nice to know that IS actually has a timeline for Ashes.

Dygz

Development roadmap is worthless.
We can't even get reasonable releases for Nodes 3 or the Divine Nodes article.

Nagash

a road map from intrepid would just be this

Soon™
Soon™
Soon™
Soon™
Soon™
Soon™
Soon™

Ferryman

I like the idea of roadmap without dates.

ShadowVen

ferryman wrote: »

I like the idea of roadmap without dates.

Thanks! =D Me too

Nagash

ferryman wrote: »

I like the idea of roadmap without dates.

thats just a vague plan with nothing to hold the devs accountable just look at anthems roadmap

Undead Canuck

Why do we need such a detailed roadmap? We have gotten a lot of information already.
Unfortunately, in all development, there are setbacks and changes. If a roadmap is handed out now, there will be many (it has happened before) who will then howl that something has changed or pushed back.

This is why they are not giving out information until they are 100% sure it will happen. This is also the problem with showing this game this early. A lot of people look at it and say it is crap and will never go anywhere without even taking into account where we are. If they just wait, they will see better things over time (just look back a year!). We now get a livestream each month. Why don't we transcribe what is said into a roadmap? This will also relieve IS from wasting time updating us all the time with any changes.

Dygz

We don't know where we are. That's the concern.
Only gauge we have is - still no Castle Siege in Apoc yet.

Nagash

Dygz wrote: »

We don't know where we are. That's the concern.
Only gauge we have is - still no Castle Siege in Apoc yet.

it's funny because the videos they should of sieges in the past look finished and then we see the latest one and it looks pre pre-alpha

Dygz

The destruction they're going for seems way more detailed and intensive now.
Makes me wonder how well AI will deal with pathing around those changes in the MMORPG.
That was a problem for Landmark and H1Z1.

Ferryman

Nagash wrote: »

ferryman wrote: »

I like the idea of roadmap without dates.

thats just a vague plan with nothing to hold the devs accountable just look at anthems roadmap

Even so, still it is better than nothing.

I do not mind if the exact dates are there or not, but when we actually see, that those development milestones in the roadmap are actually accomplished, it will show that the progression is still there and we are going somewhere. Atm the next steps in the roadmap are mainly (if not all them) related for Apoc, and because of that, IS is very cautious to announce anything.

Generally speaking of the dates in a roadmap, I do not see a need to announce exact dates, but for example Qs of specific years would be enough. Sometimes unexpected problems may appear, but even in some of those situations it is also about a poor risk management. If a company can not schedule and implement their development in Quarters, then they are quite incompetent managing projects.

Dygz

Again, it has been more than a quarter since the Divine Nodes article was due, so...

Caeryl

I’d like to see progress being made toward in-game racial models, development cycles of a node from settlement to metropolis, a rough implementation of gathering/refining/crafting, some form of character creation beyond picking an outfit and choosing male or female with pointy or not pointy ears. Even something simple like hair color, some preset face shapes, skin tone options.

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