Misc. Game Mechanics

This post covers ideas that are just to simple to warrant their own post.

Having the ability to click on the map and see what is going on in that region if friendly players are there like League of Legends would be pretty useful in 250 vs 250 brackets

As developers I see you guys are putting a lot of effort into making cool looking weapons be nice if we could look at them close up and have ability to rotate them same thing with armour sets.

There is an old spell from Dungeouns and dragons called Chromatic Orb with 12 different effects or could be a weapon like a spear with sweep dazzle and impale abilities or just a mage spell like fireball with different effects. Think if you push lets say But lets say Chromatic Orb had only 7 effects then pushing that button could bring up the effect choices and press whichever one you want then automatically goes back to previous page. Aslo if you just push the Chromatic Orb button ounce then effect in box one is selected. Be pretty cool if we could arrange the order of the spell effects . Works very similar to page up and page down. And similar to pressing modifiers like shift alt and control and similar to stances. But what this does is introduces a two button sequence for abilities kind like in Tekken. Increases the number of abilities you can use without actaully increasing the number of keybindings that you need.

Be cool if pets could do stuff like open doors and pull levers or capture a flag. Well maybe not capture flag. Things is I play huntesr and well realized that pets can be to powerful in pvp, but there are a lot of other things that pets could do like have dnager sense track monsters. Plus be pretty cool if we could see a picture in a cloud of what they might be thinking. Like food they want to eat and player that just killed their master and wants revenge, or some toy to play with. Since rangers would be metally linked to pet then this would make sense. Just things that would make them more like a life long campanion than just a pet that does x damage.

That is all for now gents good day to you.

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Azathoth

I agree that pets should not be able to capture flags, I would also prefer them not able to loot. But I am old school and not concerned with maximizing my play time.

I don't know about the map being able to show what's going on. That could make caravans way too easy of a target and allow for easier 'zerg-like' mechanics. Caravans will obviously be targets, players will of course tell other players where to meet along supposed paths, but being able to see that information in a calendar (even if it's just because it's the same area as a buddy is in) would seem too much. Imo.

Chromatic orb like effects would be cool, I'm more of a chaos fan though. So for me, making the spell a bit more powerful, but the energy damage random, would be better.

consultant

Well it is for the 250vs250 maps maybe not caravans like you said 250 people in chat or voice chat is a lot.

Azryil

Having the map let players know what going on everywhere on the battle field is a terrible idea. This isn't an RTS players should have limited information to work with and should be forced to communicate with raid leaders and commanders to determine how to proceed.

Etro

Wandering Mist

Arzosah wrote: »

Having the map let players know what going on everywhere on the battle field is a terrible idea. This isn't an RTS players should have limited information to work with and should be forced to communicate with raid leaders and commanders to determine how to proceed.

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and ask why. Why should players have limited information to work with?

Azryil

@Wandering Mist because it takes away from the sense of having a fog of war on the battle field and it reduces the amount of group wide communication that would be needed to succeed.

consultant

If voice chat and chat channel is good enought for 250 people possible 500 hundred in 500 vs 500 bracket then well it could work. Said somethin about raid leaders and commanders well IF they are organized it works out.

Just getting 250 to 500 people in voice chat is a challenge. Been part of much smaller group with voice chat and still have communications problems.

But here are some possible problems

There are people that just like to talk all the time

People that like to point out everything that is negative about other players

Guess you could have commanders mute people but that power could be abused.

Some people paly music while playing games so youmight hear that too and hwo are you going to figure out who that is.

In an ideal group were people listen and mostly only talk to give tactical info then yes it would work.

But yes IF voice chat and chat channel work for 250 people most of the time not tryintgto focus on exceptions Then something like this would not be needed. Like if you only got bad groups ounce in a while.

Last person I was in voice chat with like to sing while playing so.......

Azathoth

Wandering Mist wrote: »

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and ask why. Why should players have limited information to work with?

Again, from the point of the OP my reason for not wanting this is simple.
It could be used to determine where caravans are, where they are going, and when they will be there. This will undoubtedly encourage 'zerg' mechanics as people sporadically check their maps to look for caravans, as opposed to roaming the country side hunting for them.

That's it, I just don't want players that are hanging out in a single location just checking their maps for caravans or lone gatherers. You should have to go look for those things if you want to interact with them. Or wait for a buddy to clue you in over chat. definitely not just checking the map and going "there's one now!"

consultant

Azathoth wrote: »

Wandering Mist wrote: »

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and ask why. Why should players have limited information to work with?

Again, from the point of the OP my reason for not wanting this is simple.
It could be used to determine where caravans are, where they are going, and when they will be there. This will undoubtedly encourage 'zerg' mechanics as people sporadically check their maps to look for caravans, as opposed to roaming the country side hunting for them.

That's it, I just don't want players that are hanging out in a single location just checking their maps for caravans or lone gatherers. You should have to go look for those things if you want to interact with them. Or wait for a buddy to clue you in over chat. definitely not just checking the map and going "there's one now!"

Well this just suppost to be for the 100 and 250 brackets not open world pvp but do understand your point of losing the fog of war. Not tryint to disagree here just pointing out that it was intended for those brackets.

Azathoth

I'm not sure how that would change. Is the suggestion to limit to a battlefield? Or to limit to the full roster?

What is a 250 vs 250 in an open world? Guild Wars or sieges?

If this was only active to monitor current war states or sieges, I think it would be fine. But if they are clustered together on the battlefield, I also think it would naturally be a thing.

I might have misinterpreted this point, I have not played LoL.

ArgentDawn

Wandering Mist wrote: »

Arzosah wrote: »

Having the map let players know what going on everywhere on the battle field is a terrible idea. This isn't an RTS players should have limited information to work with and should be forced to communicate with raid leaders and commanders to determine how to proceed.

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and ask why. Why should players have limited information to work with?

Because your character isn't Omnipotent, they cant see from miles in the air. This is an RPG not RTS game. What your character can see and hear should be the limit of the information available to you. Exceptions could possibly include POIs available from innkeepers or notice boards leaving an indicator on your map for the duration of said POI activities. 'Innkeep Dawn's gossip let's you know 2 miles north is a cave filled with a miasma not allowing people to pass" etc.

consultant

League of Legengs has a function were you can alt click health mana abilities lots of things actually and it will show mana amount for mana and how long before ability resets in automatically post it in chat channel And if ability is ready it posts it in chat.

Really good way to communicate things like low mana, low health plus if a certain ability is ready like a powerful ability.

Azryil

You do love your necros don't you.....

Gimlog

If i remember well , there will be cartographers and map in taverns.

From what i understand we will not be able to press M and see the whole world map.

We will need to go to a recorded take a map that will be update by cartographers to have a map to look at.

For siege and war there will be war map but will not be real time map.

IS said once that we will be able to get lost in the game keep this in mind

Nagash

Azryil wrote: »

You do love your necros don't you.....

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Damokles

Gimlog wrote: »

If i remember well , there will be cartographers and map in taverns.

From what i understand we will not be able to press M and see the whole world map.

We will need to go to a recorded take a map that will be update by cartographers to have a map to look at.

For siege and war there will be war map but will not be real time map.

IS said once that we will be able to get lost in the game keep this in mind

Do you remember where they said that?

Gimlog

@Damokles a part is from the wiki and the rest from the 3 last live but I'll double check it.
But know that I'm thinking of it , Jeff had is face he do when they speak of stuff they talked of but haven't work on it yet.
I'll watch them to night and shear the source after.

Atama

Nagash wrote: »

Azryil wrote: »

You do love your necros don't you.....

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Nagash

Atama wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Azryil wrote: »

You do love your necros don't you.....

Saves making new threads.

reuse, recycle, reanimate

An unholy, eldritch green glow is still green!

saving the world one body at a time ^^

consultant

Page up and down
Well if we would get two bars stacked on top of each other with 12 places for abilities per bar 24 total.
Then if we had the page up and page down feature actually page up and down both bars then when you page up or down you get to have 24 more keybindings total of 48 more plus original 24 for total of 72.

Plus if we had options to page up push ability and have it page down automatically two buttton sequence and option to do it maually three button sequence. Depends on how you have your like your bindings set up.

Custom Statistics

For PvP would like to have stat pages yearly monthly weekly and custum. So I can see what my perfomance is for lets say a particular set up for lets say 8 hours of play. Would like to have option to reset pvp yearly records at the start of new year mainly cuause after a year of playing certain class most likely lot better then at begginning so be cool if win loss records from when you were not hat good possibly be reset.

Persanal Acheivement.
Now when you get an achievement usaully a cool message pops up. Would be great if we could persay set a gaol for so many kills in on match. Sure Ashes of Creation plans already to have those types but usuall you only can does those ounce. Some examples Get ten kills with out dying. Not die in a dungeoun, Use CC ten times. For rangers land ten traps. Really cool for pvp to challenge yourself guess you could do this manually but .....why not a do it in game. Other things like kill ten tanks kill ten healers kill ten dwarves. Talking about in zones with no Corruption system in place where every one is combatant.

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