Ideas for legendary weapons!

Hello everyone, its Damokles once again!

So, i once again had some free time, and as a highly enthusiastic crafter dreamed about legendary weapons once more.
Here are some of the drafts, share your opinions on them and tell everyone how you would like to see legendary weapons implemented in the game.
Should they have special effects, or maybe even special weaponskills?

Ratman (Potionl.) - They shall all come down with the Sickness!
- Special Effect: Attacks inflict poison, bleeding and slow debuff on all hit enemies.

Apocalypse (2h-Mace) - Playtime never ends.
- Special Effect: Melee attacks and abilities have a cleave effect and inflict bleeding on hit enemies.

Headsmasher (1h-Mace) - Playing Whack-a-mole for days.
- Special Effect: Melee attacks have a 50% chance to stun the enemy for .1sec.

Bloodthirst (2h-Axe) - The party has just begun!
- Special Effect: Melee attacks and abilities heal the user for x% of damage dealt.

Shieldbreaker (1h-Axe) - Here comes daddy!
- Special Effect: Attacks stack a 5% armour reduction debuff (up to 5 times)

Mountain Splitter (2h-Sword) - No enemy too big.
- Special Effect: Attacks deal x% of the targets % of remaining hp (highest damage bonus against full hp targets).

Thorn (1h-sword) - Even the most beautifull flowers have thorns.
- Special Effect: Each time that someone attacks user in melee combat, deal x% of that damage back to enemy.

Thin Line of Justice (Dagger) - There is a thin line between justice and corruption.
- Special Effect: Every second attack detonates the target, dealing x amount of damage to surrounding enemies and inflicting them with a slow (two melee aoes detonate all enemies hit).

The Problemsolver (Polearm) - I have 99 problems, and you are none.
- Special Effect: User deals increased damage for number of enemies surrounding him. (Can stack up to 99 times)

Thunderbolt (Spear) - As fast as lightning.
- Special Effect: Users attacks can pull him to his target, if it is within 3m range.

Last Whisper (Longbow) - A last caress before the end.
- Special Effect: Slight aim correction/increased critical hitchance depending on distance to target.

Lovers Embrace (Shortbow) - Who doesnt want to die in the arms of his loved one?
- Special Effect: Deals increased damage for each meter that you are close to the target.

Boltthrower 3000 (Crossbow) - Have you ever wondered how a porcupine feels?
- Special Effect: Deals stacking damage to target (stacks decay if you change target).

The Embalmer (Scepter) - I see they already removed their brain?
- Special Effect: Attacks and spells inflict a debuff on target, that drains lifeforce and mana for 3sec.

The Hierophants Folly (Staff) - The higher they are, the harder their fall.
- Special Effect: Deals increased damage, depending on the hp difference between user and target.

Zip-Zap (Wand) - You point from left to right, they go Zip and Zap.
- Special Effect: Mark an enemy. If you attack another enemy with spells or attacks, then cast a copy of on the marked target for reduced damage.

The Necronomicon (Spellbook) - You shall have soooo many friends on the other side.
- Special Effect: Spells have a 25% chance to summon a little demonic servant that charges your target and implodes on impact.

Palantir (Orb) - Those that seek power always ignore the fine print.
- Special Effect: Periodically returns all debuffs to the enemy caster that inflicted them upon you.

Aegis (Shield) - Never cower, stick out your chest and be proud!
- Special Effect: User recives for each attack a stacking hot (can stack up to 10 times).

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Gimlog

Risk vs rewards is definitely a thing in AoC and we will probably see it everywhere in the game.

For Legendary unique item the only thing i do hope they do well is making sure that those item will be us regardless the risk , I don't want them to be collectors item that you will know some one got it from record but never see it because the owner don't want to lose it by using it .

I'm made a topics about it , where i proposed a mechanic that forced the owner to us it if he want to keep it.

Damokles

Here are a few quotes from Steven about legendaries:
There are absolutely legendary items and they're not items that are attained easily nor are they granted out in a volume. There might even be items that are single items that will exist on the server at any given time.
Another thing to note regarding this is, that legendaries are not temporary (except for legendary mounts that you find in the wild). Legendary weapons wont despawn and will most likely be unbreakable.

We want to stay away from the highly RNGd system, and instead take our multiple progression paths that we are offering the players and put the construction components for achieving these legendary items within them so it encourages communities to work together because it's going to be difficult for just one person by themselves to gather everything. Not to say that they couldn't in an economic sense, by buying those components, that's possible. But achieving them from a time investment standpoint we want it to be considerably less RNG focussed.
This could mean, that the construction of a legendary weapon is something that a whole guild has to do together (like Thunderfury or Sulfuras in WoW Classic).

Amist

I would love to see a scythe that drains life from the caster and nearby allies (or perhaps from the dead) to empower the weapon. This would require communication and good timing to use, but could be a fairly powerful weapon that makes use of the risk vs. reward theory that AoC is based upon.

There could also be a shield that risks deflecting damage upon both allies and enemies in a cone in front of it, but ultimately has great defensive stats.

Damokles

BraneGames wrote: »

I would love to see a scythe that drains life from the caster and nearby allies (or perhaps from the dead) to empower the weapon. This would require communication and good timing to use, but could be a fairly powerful weapon that makes use of the risk vs. reward theory that AoC is based upon.

There could also be a shield that risks deflecting damage upon both allies and enemies in a cone in front of it, but ultimately has great defensive stats.

I really like the scythe idea, where it drains the energy around it.
It could be balanced in a sense that it drains 5% of current hp from all units in a 5m radius (including yourself and allies). It couldnt outright kill them, but leave them at 1hp. And in turn it would increase your dmg by
(5 × amount of units you drained energy from)%.

Nagash

BraneGames wrote: »

I would love to see a scythe that drains life from the caster and nearby allies (or perhaps from the dead) to empower the weapon. This would require communication and good timing to use, but could be a fairly powerful weapon that makes use of the risk vs. reward theory that AoC is based upon.

There could also be a shield that risks deflecting damage upon both allies and enemies in a cone in front of it, but ultimately has great defensive stats.

Yes please ^^

consultant

Would like to see weapons that change a little when legendary ability procs. When it is ready. Simple effect lik. Hammer wiith lightning bolt effect. When it is ready to use then hammer has lightning arcing around the head of it. And if it has more than one ability more than one aura. maybe even stacked auras.

Lets say it just procs a dps buff then if it is a mace spikes could come out temporarily. Think Devs at Ashes of Creation Could come up with things ten times better that . Way better than that. Idea is to put some life into the weapon. Instead of just nice looking with proc or ability that does not even have in game animation.

Plus lets say I am playing a palladin and have a holy weapon. Weapon could pulse with holy energy denoting Nagash (meant undead) same thing is around.

Same thing for undead death knight could have dark red or purple energy pulse much like neon lights in Need For Speed for their Weapons when Goody tissue palladins and clerics are around.

Actually could be used to denote certain rival is around in normal weapons. Like if you been ganked by lets say Bob a lot so you put him on Rival list and weapon pulsates when around.

Hexcat

I...have no intention to be mean, but...aren´t these legendary weapons kind of...well...basic?
don´t get me wrong, I enjoy a reference to H.P. Lovecraft work as much as any other but, for a "legendary" weapon and far more from an item which will only exist one of a kind at any moment at any server I expect something more than an axe that has the same effect and name of a League of Legends item
For example how about some of the weapons have some kind of debuff for the user and maybe just make an exception for the rule "all classes at any level can use all weapons" maybe just for the use of legendary weapons you need a minimum amount of point in proficiency with that kind of weapon (if I remember well there is going to be a system like in vanilla wow).
Another important thing is this:

Damokles wrote: »

1. A legendary weapon is something, that can be either crafted after multiple months of preparation at the highest level, or a reward for a legendary questchain. They are stronger than any other non legendary weapon. I like the GW2 approach of legendary weapons the most tbh.

I think you're completely correct about this fact but there is space for some twist too, bear with me, you are a player lvl 1 just entered the game and going for your first hunt in the forest, classic one,slay some boars and slimes just to get some experience and coins, but all of a sudden you found a item in the ground, its just a stick, a normal, common, simple stick, but for some reason you can pick it from the ground, and it has status for attack and defense 1 on each and makes 1-3 damage per hit, it doesn't activate any kind of quest but for some reason there seems to be no other "sticks" around to be picked, why? is it some kind of bug or maybe just a little prank from a bored GM?
but what you don´t know is that if you keep that stick, equip it and start to use it has a weapon it starts to evolve at the same phase as you and eventually it will become a legendary weapon, and it was all just luck, my point is, we are talking about the game that will bring MMORPG 2.0 to the market or at least we all hope so, so I reeeeeeeeaaaaaaally expect this extra push and out of the box kind of implementation, including legendary weapons

Amist

Chezshire wrote: »

I...have no intention to be mean, but...aren´t these legendary weapons kind of...well...basic?
don´t get me wrong, I enjoy a reference to H.P. Lovecraft work as much as any other but, for a "legendary" weapon and far more from an item which will only exist one of a kind at any moment at any server I expect something more than an axe that has the same effect and name of a League of Legends item
For example how about some of the weapons have some kind of debuff for the user and maybe just make an exception for the rule "all classes at any level can use all weapons" maybe just for the use of legendary weapons you need a minimum amount of point in proficiency with that kind of weapon (if I remember well there is going to be a system like in vanilla wow).
Another important thing is this:

Damokles wrote: »

1. A legendary weapon is something, that can be either crafted after multiple months of preparation at the highest level, or a reward for a legendary questchain. They are stronger than any other non legendary weapon. I like the GW2 approach of legendary weapons the most tbh.

I think you're completely correct about this fact but there is space for some twist too, bear with me, you are a player lvl 1 just entered the game and going for your first hunt in the forest, classic one,slay some boars and slimes just to get some experience and coins, but all of a sudden you found a item in the ground, its just a stick, a normal, common, simple stick, but for some reason you can pick it from the ground, and it has status for attack and defense 1 on each and makes 1-3 damage per hit, it doesn't activate any kind of quest but for some reason there seems to be no other "sticks" around to be picked, why? is it some kind of bug or maybe just a little prank from a bored GM?
but what you don´t know is that if you keep that stick, equip it and start to use it has a weapon it starts to evolve at the same phase as you and eventually it will become a legendary weapon, and it was all just luck, my point is, we are talking about the game that will bring MMORPG 2.0 to the market or at least we all hope so, so I reeeeeeeeaaaaaaally expect this extra push and out of the box kind of implementation, including legendary weapons

I love the idea of items being seemingly basic but leveling up and becoming more and more powerful over time! I hope there's going to be a lot of that alongside some that have quests attached to them.

Hexcat

Another type of stuff that can be implemented for legendary weapons is that for crafting one we need some very rare items something dropped from the final boss of a dungeon and so, BUT the twist here could be this:
As far as I know the money we gather will not be able to us at the moment we kill and loot the monster but when we sell the dropped items to a merchant, ABD I kinda remember that it was said that rare spawns will drop only items according to the level and rarity of the NPC, so let's imagine you're come across one of these rare monsters, you manage to overcome it and loot it, but among the treasures there is a grey or white item that should not be there, a monster lvl 40 dropping trash? Why? Maybe your first instinct is take it and sell it at the first opportunity, but what if you go to the local gatherer that has some kind of appraisal ability and BAM!!! the item you woul have sold in maybe 1 silver is actually a very rare components for a combination of materials that will grant you a legendary item!!!
This are just simple ideas that i can think of giving the legendary weapons some spice and I'm sure that the IS team can think of more awesome way to impress us in this subject

Noaani

BraneGames wrote: »

I love the idea of items being seemingly basic but leveling up and becoming more and more powerful over time! I hope there's going to be a lot of that alongside some that have quests attached to them.

I like this idea from an adventuring standpoint - but from a crafter/economy standpoint, I'm somewhat less interested.

Hexcat

noaani wrote: »

I like this idea from an adventuring standpoint - but from a crafter/economy standpoint, I'm somewhat less interested.

I can see why, and that's the reason why I think this "adaptation/evolving/growth" stuff should only be applied to extremely rare items, such as legendary items or drops from raid or high level dungeon bosses

Damokles

Chezshire wrote: »

noaani wrote: »

I like this idea from an adventuring standpoint - but from a crafter/economy standpoint, I'm somewhat less interested.

I can see why, and that's the reason why I think this "adaptation/evolving/growth" stuff should only be applied to extremely rare items, such as legendary items or drops from raid or high level dungeon bosses

I think that it would be okay if they siphoned exp from the wearer. Let them eat 25% of all exp earned by the wearer and then implement upgrade requirements.
They start at white and need x amount of exp to fill up until you get a quest to upgrade them. You then have to collect specific materials and then bring it together with the equipment to a smith npc to upgrade it to green.
You repeat that with an ever increasing amount of exp and rarer materials until you reach epic.
After reaching epic, you dont need to fill it with exp anymore, instead it collects the souls of slain enemies and other epic equipment.
Lets say:
-1.000 killed pvp enemies in 1v1 combat
-1.000 npc elites
-100 world bosses/raid bosses
-100 pieces of epic gear
-extremely rare materials that are rarely found in dangerous zones in the world or from rare world boss spawns

After getting all the requirements the wearer has to speak with npcs from all metropolis types (a scientific smithing grandmaster to combine them all, a religious node archbishop to get his blessing, a merchant guildmaster to get the location to finish the last step, and a martial warlord to recieve information about the raid boss that you will have to kill). After speaking with all of them the wearer and his guild have to travel to a specific location to summon a raid boss. After killing it, they imbue its power into the legendary (the last step can be done with multiple people who are at the same step).
And done, you have a new legendary!

Hexcat

Damokles wrote: »

I think that it would be okay if they siphoned exp from the wearer. Let them eat 25% of all exp earned by the wearer and then implement upgrade requirements.
They start at white and need x amount of exp to fill up until you get a quest to upgrade them. You then have to collect specific materials and then bring it together with the equipment to a smith npc to upgrade it to green.
You repeat that with an ever increasing amount of exp and rarer materials until you reach epic.
After reaching epic, you dont need to fill it with exp anymore, instead it collects the souls of slain enemies and other epic equipment.
Lets say:
-1.000 killed pvp enemies in 1v1 combat
-1.000 npc elites
-100 world bosses/raid bosses
-100 pieces of epic gear
-extremely rare materials that are rarely found in dangerous zones in the world or from rare world boss spawns

After getting all the requirements the wearer has to speak with npcs from all metropolis types (a scientific smithing grandmaster to combine them all, a religious node archbishop to get his blessing, a merchant guildmaster to get the location to finish the last step, and a martial warlord to recieve information about the raid boss that you will have to kill). After speaking with all of them the wearer and his guild have to travel to a specific location to summon a raid boss. After killing it, they imbue its power into the legendary (the last step can be done with multiple people who are at the same step).
And done, you have a new legendary!

Actually this is...A REALLY COOL IDEA!!!
yeah I like it a lot, but we have to clarify that this would apply only to this specific weapon, the other legendary items should have their own distinctive mechanics and not all of them should grow or evolve, some are just an actual OP/extremely rare boss drop or something that should be crafted from a rare world boss material I mean we don't have to get rid of the oldies mechanics just incorporate new ones so the game is just not everything we have seen before
OMG now its coming to my mind two more legendaries a bow and a pair of daggers
Maybe I could write them and put their lore here!!!!

Damokles

Chezshire wrote: »

Damokles wrote: »

I think that it would be okay if they siphoned exp from the wearer. Let them eat 25% of all exp earned by the wearer and then implement upgrade requirements.
They start at white and need x amount of exp to fill up until you get a quest to upgrade them. You then have to collect specific materials and then bring it together with the equipment to a smith npc to upgrade it to green.
You repeat that with an ever increasing amount of exp and rarer materials until you reach epic.
After reaching epic, you dont need to fill it with exp anymore, instead it collects the souls of slain enemies and other epic equipment.
Lets say:
-1.000 killed pvp enemies in 1v1 combat
-1.000 npc elites
-100 world bosses/raid bosses
-100 pieces of epic gear
-extremely rare materials that are rarely found in dangerous zones in the world or from rare world boss spawns

After getting all the requirements the wearer has to speak with npcs from all metropolis types (a scientific smithing grandmaster to combine them all, a religious node archbishop to get his blessing, a merchant guildmaster to get the location to finish the last step, and a martial warlord to recieve information about the raid boss that you will have to kill). After speaking with all of them the wearer and his guild have to travel to a specific location to summon a raid boss. After killing it, they imbue its power into the legendary (the last step can be done with multiple people who are at the same step).
And done, you have a new legendary!

Actually this is...A REALLY COOL IDEA!!!
yeah I like it a lot, but we have to clarify that this would apply only to this specific weapon, the other legendary items should have their own distinctive mechanics and not all of them should grow or evolve, some are just an actual OP/extremely rare boss drop or something that should be crafted from a rare world boss material I mean we don't have to get rid of the oldies mechanics just incorporate new ones so the game is just not everything we have seen before
OMG now its coming to my mind two more legendaries a bow and a pair of daggers
Maybe I could write them and put their lore here!!!!

Thats what this thread is all about bro!
Cant wait to see what you thought of.

consultant

Well this is a continuation of last post on this thread about pulsating weapons but there are other things that could pulsate like death nights eyes or pallies eye slits. Matter they could pulls at little faster at certain times and then just get really bright and stay on at other times. Could be a holy or unholy shield for tanking.

Legendary or one step down for legendary shields are rare and usually with no special abilities. So would like to see really good shield for tanks.

Nagash

I would love to have a legendary grimoire that allows you to use basic spells for all classes even if you are not that class. e.g a summoner casting fireball

Damokles

Nagash wrote: »

I would love to have a legendary grimoire that allows you to use basic spells for all classes even if you are not that class. e.g a summoner casting fireball

You mean basic spells for all magic based classes? (Bards, Clerics, Summoners, Mages)
Because it would make no sense, that a book would let you use rogue abilities

consultant

Nagash wrote: »

I would love to have a legendary grimoire that allows you to use basic spells for all classes even if you are not that class. e.g a summoner casting fireball

Just to be clear you are talking about a giant spell book book correct? Think that would be a great idea. And since there are not gear restrictions well maybe there could be pally version of it. One of the abilities it could have is to make next spell uninteruptable.

Ishka

@Nagash I guess your "grimoire of many spells" will have custom CDs applied to the spells you use. Or does using one of the many spells you have, put a general CD on all of them ? I like the idea, because it would provide ways to do unexpected clutch plays.

I got another idea guys, do you think it would be interesting for a shield to have an unique skill like the already existing wall that you build as a TANK, but instead we're using the shield making sort of ethereal screen not a physical one for like 30s. It would provide additional resistances from all types of ranged attacks. The "shield wall" can be moved but with a decent CD, moving it would cost mana. Also its duration can be increased at the cost of a constant consumption from the mana pool of the owner.

Damokles

Ishka wrote: »

@Nagash I guess your "grimoire of many spells" will have custom CDs applied to the spells you use. Or does using one of the many spells you have, put a general CD on all of them ? I like the idea, because it would provide ways to do unexpected clutch plays.

I got another idea guys, do you think it would be interesting for a shield to have an unique skill like the already existing wall that you build as a TANK, but instead we're using the shield making sort of ethereal screen not a physical one for like 30s. It would provide additional resistances from all types of ranged attacks. The "shield wall" can be moved but with a decent CD, moving it would cost mana. Also its duration can be increased at the cost of a constant consumption from the mana pool of the owner.

Name: Aegis
Effect: Erect a phantom shield infront of the player, that reduces incomming projectile and magical damage by 50%. The shield always remains jnfront of the player, even if the player moves or changes direction.

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