What kinds of quests do you dislike the most?

I have always disliked escort quests, not so much when they follow your but when you have to follow them. Especially the " Let me take you on a tour of the city " quests. I also don't like to have too many quests that make you get into machines or in someone elses body ect. and you can't use your class abilities. Some of those are ok but I feel like in some games (WoW) its every other quest. One more for the pet peeve list, the " You will do a crafting or battleground tutorial whether you want to or not or this NPC will never leave you alone" quests.

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Noaani

George Black wrote: »

As long as other forum members read about what I mean it's all good.
You dont seem to be able to grasp much.

See, I find it easier if I just use the words that I actually mean, rather than using different words.

Then I don't need to rely on others having to guess what I mean.

I also find it useful to not say I am talking about a specific thing if the last time I said anything, I literally referred to that thing at least five times. Referring directly to a thing multiple times and then stating that I am not talking about that thing can easily cause confusion.

I find this kind of thing makes communication much easier, both online and in life in general.

But hey, I don't seem to be able to grasp much.

George_Black

No you dont grasp much. Read the last part of my first post in this topic.
The whole quoting bit you did added nothing at all to the conversation here.

Noaani

George Black wrote: »

No you dont grasp much. Read the last part of my first post in this topic.
The whole quoting bit you did added nothing at all to the conversation here.

You said you like quests that take a good couple of hours to complete solo - a slow speed escort mission from one side of the game world to the other absolutely fits in with that.

Thing is, you still didn't talk about any mechanics that you like or dislike.

Plateau

@georgeblack Noaani is an asshole, but unfortunately he's a smart asshole who is technically correct. 60% of the lines in your first post (the numbered list part) were all about things you want to see at the END of or "AFTER" a quest; the destination, not the journey per se.

Although, half of the quest rewards you mentioned were just Access-to-New-Content, and that new content could be contained in quests as well. So I'd just assume that that's what you wanted in the first place. *shrug*

Hexcat

Personally i have come to appreciate every kind of quest even the little ones like bring stuff to an npc thats just litterally 3 steps away, i think what becomes annoying is the fact that the mission doesn't offer more than that, like ok i bring you this tools and this tread and this materials aaaaaaaand oh wow look this unlock other stuff!!! or the that the looting quest doesn't helps to anything in the development of something greater, I want to put a little example using World of Warcraft:
When you first arrive to Tranquillien in the eastern kingdoms near Silvermoon city there's this forsaken guy that gives you a quest to gather some stuff for his shop, otherwise you would not have access to basic material in that area, so you go defeat some ghouls and gather some boxes and there you go now you can buy basic materials so you dont have to go all the way back to the city in case you need something, its something so simple but it give a lot in terms of accomplishment because that chain of events that you started when you accepted the simple quest now has a palpable mark in the game.

Noaani

leonerdo wrote: »

Noaani is an asshole, but unfortunately he's a smart asshole who is technically correct.

Possibly the most accurate description of me I've read.

That said, I'm only an asshole when people get argumentitive rather than engaging in a debate or discussion.

There are some people on these forums that are actually good at debate/discussion, and while they have seen me acting as an asshole to others, would likely say I have never been such to them, even if we disagree on occasion.

To me, the opinion people have of me on forums is entirely a reflection of their abilities in debate/discussion. I mean, if the poster in question had have simply said "yeah, I care more about the results of quests than I do about the tasks they involve" when I first pointed out that their list was all about rewards, which is actually what I expected, I would have aimply reaponded with "cool".

George_Black

noaani wrote: »

leonerdo wrote: »

Noaani is an asshole, but unfortunately he's a smart asshole who is technically correct.

Possibly the most accurate description of me I've read.

That said, I'm only an asshole when people get argumentitive rather than engaging in a debate or discussion.

There are some people on these forums that are actually good at debate/discussion, and while they have seen me acting as an asshole to others, would likely say I have never been such to them, even if we disagree on occasion.

To me, the opinion people have of me on forums is entirely a reflection of their abilities in debate/discussion. I mean, if the poster in question had have simply said "yeah, I care more about the results of quests than I do about the tasks they involve" when I first pointed out that their list was all about rewards, which is actually what I expected, I would have aimply reaponded with "cool".

I'd say that the fact that you need very detailed guidance to reading a small post to grasp a concept, takes the smart out of the equation.

Damokles

leonerdo wrote: »

@georgeblack Noaani is an asshole, but unfortunately he's a smart asshole who is technically correct.

To be fair... we are all assholes deep down.

Damokles

noaani wrote: »

leonerdo wrote: »

Noaani is an asshole, but unfortunately he's a smart asshole who is technically correct.

Possibly the most accurate description of me I've read.

That said, I'm only an asshole when people get argumentitive rather than engaging in a debate or discussion.

There are some people on these forums that are actually good at debate/discussion, and while they have seen me acting as an asshole to others, would likely say I have never been such to them, even if we disagree on occasion.

To me, the opinion people have of me on forums is entirely a reflection of their abilities in debate/discussion. I mean, if the poster in question had have simply said "yeah, I care more about the results of quests than I do about the tasks they involve" when I first pointed out that their list was all about rewards, which is actually what I expected, I would have aimply reaponded with "cool".

This thread reminded me of the best queste ever designed.
I was 15, started aion recently and reached the third map. A npc asks me to go and collect his money. "Easy!" I thought. What a fool i was.
It made me treck through 3 maps, without any mounts. I had to speak with 8 different npcs. 'Prorites Money' broke many players, but i did it and got the title of "the patient". It was not worth it. XD

George_Black

Riddle me this:
A quest which requires you to kill and collect 100 pouches from mobs in an area (rng), then 100 in another area, 100 in another. Kill two open world raid bosses with a group of 10-15 ppl (pvp might be needed).
Then take the dropped items, take them to an Ivory Tower, chat with the wizards, fetch a tome, mix the ingredients, buy some frim players if needed, create a stone of some short, take it and kill a world boss and then in your character, Class eg (tank lv76) you have the ability to add a new class on the same character lv40 (warrior).
What TYPE of quest is it??
Escort?
Fetch?
Kill X?
It doesnt need a description?

What does the quest give you as a reward?
Gold?
XP?
Item?
Rewarding mmorpg questing experience? Maybe the last one.

Subclass quest from Line][Age

Noaani

Damokles wrote: »

noaani wrote: »

leonerdo wrote: »

Noaani is an asshole, but unfortunately he's a smart asshole who is technically correct.

Possibly the most accurate description of me I've read.

That said, I'm only an asshole when people get argumentitive rather than engaging in a debate or discussion.

There are some people on these forums that are actually good at debate/discussion, and while they have seen me acting as an asshole to others, would likely say I have never been such to them, even if we disagree on occasion.

To me, the opinion people have of me on forums is entirely a reflection of their abilities in debate/discussion. I mean, if the poster in question had have simply said "yeah, I care more about the results of quests than I do about the tasks they involve" when I first pointed out that their list was all about rewards, which is actually what I expected, I would have aimply reaponded with "cool".

This thread reminded me of the best queste ever designed.
I was 15, started aion recently and reached the third map. A npc asks me to go and collect his money. "Easy!" I thought. What a fool i was.
It made me treck through 3 maps, without any mounts. I had to speak with 8 different npcs. 'Prorites Money' broke many players, but i did it and got the title of "the patient". It was not worth it. XD

Sounds like a fun quest, reminds me of the Archeage chain that results in the "Friend of Giants" title.

I did that on every character I made in that game, just because the title was rare back when I played.

Noaani

George Black wrote: »

Riddle me this:
A quest which requires you to kill and collect 100 pouches from mobs in an area (rng), then 100 in another area, 100 in another. Kill two open world raid bosses with a group of 10-15 ppl (pvp might be needed).
Then take the dropped items, take them to an Ivory Tower, chat with the wizards, fetch a tome, mix the ingredients, buy some frim players if needed, create a stone of some short, take it and kill a world boss and then in your character, Class eg (tank lv76) you have the ability to add a new class on the same character lv40 (warrior).
What TYPE of quest is it??
Escort?
Fetch?
Kill X?
It doesnt need a description?

What does the quest give you as a reward?
Gold?
XP?
Item?
Rewarding mmorpg questing experience? Maybe the last one.

Subclass quest from Line][Age

Most games (though not all) would break that down in to several small quests that are each a part of the larger quest line.

However, even if it is one quest, in a discussion like this we can talk about each task as an individual concept, and discuss whether we like them or not individually, even if we like the quest (or quest chain) as a whole.

Hartwell

I dislike quests that can be easily sabotaged by another player or are a player bottleneck, but are also part of a larger chain quest and are too important to skip.

Noaani

hartwell wrote: »

I dislike quests that can be easily sabotaged by another player or are a player bottleneck, but are also part of a larger chain quest and are too important to skip.

Completely agree. And a few quests - from a few different games - come to mind immediately.

Sadly though, I do see this sort of thing happening in Ashes and Intrepid being OK with it (player agency and all that).

To me, an acceptable (even if not ideal) situation if such quests are to be in a game is if the quest journal lets you know others will be able to sabotage your progress at some point in the quest or quest chain. At least with that, players know what they are getting themselves in to before they invest too much time.

Damokles

George Black wrote: »

Riddle me this:
A quest which requires you to kill and collect 100 pouches from mobs in an area (rng), then 100 in another area, 100 in another. Kill two open world raid bosses with a group of 10-15 ppl (pvp might be needed).
Then take the dropped items, take them to an Ivory Tower, chat with the wizards, fetch a tome, mix the ingredients, buy some frim players if needed, create a stone of some short, take it and kill a world boss and then in your character, Class eg (tank lv76) you have the ability to add a new class on the same character lv40 (warrior).
What TYPE of quest is it??
Escort?
Fetch?
Kill X?
It doesnt need a description?

What does the quest give you as a reward?
Gold?
XP?
Item?
Rewarding mmorpg questing experience? Maybe the last one.

Subclass quest from Line][Age

That is obviously a fetch/kill questchain though?
Reward: character development

Gimlog

I hate when quest chain make me got multiple time to the same zone to kill x mobs from one type and so on until I killed each species there where in this zone ... Usually if there are to much of those I quite the game as fast ass I get in...

If there must be such a quest I'll prefer it to be meaningful.

Like a quest where NPC that hold a shop is very embraced because a few day ago his supply has been attacked and he has nothing to sell anymore.
( player that come and go will make it feel like they are unhappy customers)

Because you look strong and gentle he ask if you could go reclaim some of his supply.
To do so you'll need to kill 3 types of mobs and get 5 item from each of them.

The weakest have a low chance of drops because they hadn't all a chance to get something of the plunder. ( may need to kill 15-20 of them)

Most of the fastest and sneaky one got there hand on something ( 5-10 to get the items)

The strongest have for sure got something out of the plunder and some more than one thing.
(5 will be enough to get quest items. Got a 1% chance to get a good loot)

Once you get back to the NPC he will open his shop to you and you'll have to chose between 5 of the basic stuff he sell. + some xp and gold.

The whole quest didn't get you enough gold to buy everything you could need ( at least if you had got lucky for the quest loot. If not you killed more so you may have enough to buy the whole basic stuff.)
You'll need to do others quest for sure to get the gold for the best equipment the NPC sell.

This is a way a prefer if I need to kill mobs , make me stay longer in the area and not on the way between to zone and the npc ...

Hartwell

noaani wrote: »

hartwell wrote: »

I dislike quests that can be easily sabotaged by another player or are a player bottleneck, but are also part of a larger chain quest and are too important to skip.

Completely agree. And a few quests - from a few different games - come to mind immediately.

Sadly though, I do see this sort of thing happening in Ashes and Intrepid being OK with it (player agency and all that).

To me, an acceptable (even if not ideal) situation if such quests are to be in a game is if the quest journal lets you know others will be able to sabotage your progress at some point in the quest or quest chain. At least with that, players know what they are getting themselves in to before they invest too much time.

I feel that the word "easily" needs to be emphasized. I'm talking so easy to sabotage that there is no method of recourse for the average player. It doesn't even need to be PvP sabotage. There have been times in games where all a player had to do was body block access to something in a town around NPC guards or within safe zones.

T Elf

The kind I hate are the questchains that start out as single player ones but to finish you need a group. Make then either single all the way or group all the way, but not a mix.

Damokles

T Elf wrote: »

The kind I hate are the questchains that start out as single player ones but to finish you need a group. Make then either single all the way or group all the way, but not a mix.

I think that they would be okay, if the player that started it could then share the group quest, and the people can do it for as long as they are in a party.

Caeryl

“We require the aid of a master wizard to defeat this corrupt archmage of a corrupted magic school!“ And then for some reason using magic is optional. (Looking at you Bethesda)

Repeated dailies/weeklies/whatever. Shallow gameplay that detracts from the world as a whole. An adaptive world should never be lacking for context appropriate quests.

Quests where the mega boss dies in three hits.

Pointless errands that anyone could do in the span of five minutes but god forbid an NPC know how to solve minor inconveniences on their own.

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