Unique Class Abilities

What is 1 of your hopes/dreams for unique class abilitiyand or augment to your archetype.
Of course we haven't seen the skill trees yet, but I am just curious as to what some of your aspirations are concerning the classes. I briefly mentioned one of mine in a previous thread.
The Necromancer: I would love to see the ability to resurrect one of your downed foes and use it till their hit points are depleted. You would gain a few of their base abilities to use while you control them.
I only chose to list one because the lists and wants are enormous I'm guessing, and I'm sure we don't want to sit here and read mini novellas. So what is your top hope for a class ability or augment?

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WizardTim

leonerdo wrote: »

Alright, here's a less sassy answer (just a week late).

I like elemental magic systems with lots of interactions, like in Magicka. I doubt they can do anything quite that in depth, but it would be cool to play like an Omni-Mage, using several different elements, each with their own status effects. Then perhaps there could be an ultimate attack that does bonus damage for each elemental debuff the enemy has. Stack 'em up and knock 'em down, ya' know?

I've always thought spell casters should just have all the elements.

Their primary strength should be in versatility, not raw DPS. Their DPS should come *from* the ability to exploit any creature's weakness by cycling through various elements until you hit them with something that hurts a LOT.

Seems really dumb that a wizard has to spec into specific elements, and just rely on whatever side effects that element has without ever branching out into others.

That way, spell casters would have an actual meta combat game. Something that's interesting, but experienced players benefit by learning enemies and experimenting with their spells and combinations.

Hexcat

My idea of "unique" could be this one:
Certain skills need specific resources, for example to create a zombie you need the corpse, to create a wizard skeleton you need a wizard corpse
Interaction with the environment: the tank can use the harpoon ability to climb a three or a cliff
Skill interaction : if you have two summoners and one use earth elementals and the other can use fire elementals they can combine their magics to create a lava elemental
and stuff...

Hexcat

wolfwood82 wrote: »

leonerdo wrote: »

Alright, here's a less sassy answer (just a week late).

I like elemental magic systems with lots of interactions, like in Magicka. I doubt they can do anything quite that in depth, but it would be cool to play like an Omni-Mage, using several different elements, each with their own status effects. Then perhaps there could be an ultimate attack that does bonus damage for each elemental debuff the enemy has. Stack 'em up and knock 'em down, ya' know?

I've always thought spell casters should just have all the elements.

Their primary strength should be in versatility, not raw DPS. Their DPS should come *from* the ability to exploit any creature's weakness by cycling through various elements until you hit them with something that hurts a LOT.

Seems really dumb that a wizard has to spec into specific elements, and just rely on whatever side effects that element has without ever branching out into others.

That way, spell casters would have an actual meta combat game. Something that's interesting, but experienced players benefit by learning enemies and experimenting with their spells and combinations.

I think this could be implemented as a specialization of the spellcasters because if you give all spellcasters all the elements and can have all of them maximize the it could break the game very easily
So the moment you have a mage that can use every element but with limits there you have a very attractive balanced class

WizardTim

Chezshire wrote: »

wolfwood82 wrote: »

leonerdo wrote: »

Alright, here's a less sassy answer (just a week late).

I like elemental magic systems with lots of interactions, like in Magicka. I doubt they can do anything quite that in depth, but it would be cool to play like an Omni-Mage, using several different elements, each with their own status effects. Then perhaps there could be an ultimate attack that does bonus damage for each elemental debuff the enemy has. Stack 'em up and knock 'em down, ya' know?

I've always thought spell casters should just have all the elements.

Their primary strength should be in versatility, not raw DPS. Their DPS should come *from* the ability to exploit any creature's weakness by cycling through various elements until you hit them with something that hurts a LOT.

Seems really dumb that a wizard has to spec into specific elements, and just rely on whatever side effects that element has without ever branching out into others.

That way, spell casters would have an actual meta combat game. Something that's interesting, but experienced players benefit by learning enemies and experimenting with their spells and combinations.

I think this could be implemented as a specialization of the spellcasters because if you give all spellcasters all the elements and can have all of them maximize the it could break the game very easily
So the moment you have a mage that can use every element but with limits there you have a very attractive balanced class

Not necessarily.

Depends on how your spec tree pans out. If, for example, you have all elements, but need to spec into spell forms like AoE, Shock, and Bolt spells (Shock being low damage tab target spells, bolt being higher damage action target spells, AoE being area of effect ground target spells).

This would require spell mechanics to have a modular design. Your AoE can be set to any element.

If I were to do this in a way that could easily translate to the UI I see in AoC, I'd make spells require a combination of key presses. Push a key for a form, a key for the element, apply a charge level, and "fire" it by clicking the mouse.

A complex casting system would make playing a spell caster feel more unique, and also be a bit tough to do on the move or in combat. Just a wild thought though.

ataulfos

i would love to see supress skill in rogues like an
martial art that grabs an enemy and supress it for a duration while stabs his ribs or something like taht, like a really cool and acrobatic animations for grab another caracter depending on his constitution

Wong

Personally, i would like to see a Summoner main class with light based (understand something similar to holy light in WoW) summon augments instead of the necromantic death magic style thing.

Aka, instead of a ghoul you summon a light elemental, instead of a giant bat you summon a sort of angelic figure with wings.. That sort of theme

Ventharien

I'd love some ability for the Nightshield like a counter attack buff that activates if someone under stealth attacks you.

Caelron

mrsynth wrote: »

Personally, i would like to see a Summoner main class with light based (understand something similar to holy light in WoW) summon augments instead of the necromantic death magic style thing.

Aka, instead of a ghoul you summon a light elemental, instead of a giant bat you summon a sort of angelic figure with wings.. That sort of theme

Piggy-backing on @mrsynth , I want to see Summoners like a Summoner/Cleric able to go a Holy path vs. a Death Path or Demonic path, too. I also would like to see mechanics of almost all traditional D&D games, giving the possibility that a "higher being" gets summoned who basically either closes the summoning circle (spell failure, or the entity basically saying "no"), or kills the summoner for daring to try and summon a greater being, and gets released, like a boss (different type of spell failure, lose control of spell/summons).

I also like the idea of a Summoner, or maybe even a Cleric/Summoner, who could literally sacrifice people to summon greater beings. Imagine a Cleric/Summoner creating a summoning circle with like 100 people during a Node Siege, and all 100 people sacrifice themselves in order to summon a crazy boss character (Worth the equivalent of 100+ characters). Maybe even combine it with the idea of "Monster Tokens" and let the lead Summoner control the new creature/boss.

Nagash

You all stay away from my necromancer

Tacualeon

-Rogue/assasin/duelist stun lock and cd/dr management.
-Protection tank with cc and mobility.
-Hunter beast master/primal.

Magic Man

Okay so I've talked about this before on Discord but I'll give a few examples here as well most of which are mobility related.

1) Double Jump - Triple Jump (or catfall ability from APOC) Super Jump.

Double Jump would be a rogue/ranger jump tier 2 class ability (multiple skill points invested in 'jump'). Triple Jump would be tier 3 version of it, needless to say, with a cool down of at least 10 seconds. The last one is 'Super Jump' which, just like the other 2, were shown and tested in APOC. That would be a tier 3 jump ability that is augmented with either rogue or a ranger class augments.

2) Grapple Hook of a ranger. Self explanatory. Can be used in a variety of environments for mobility purposes

3) Climbing ability of a Rogue (cannot be used in certain places and you can't stay on a surface longer than 5-7 seconds)

4) Polymorph (to be used on both an enemy and oneself) It was used and tested in APOC tho would be cool to see it used on an enemy as well which would turn them into some sort of small creature from Verra.

Damokles

Magic Man wrote: »

Okay so I've talked about this before on Discord but I'll give a few examples here as well most of which are mobility related.

1) Double Jump - Triple Jump (or catfall ability from APOC) Super Jump.

Double Jump would be a rogue/ranger jump tier 2 class ability (multiple skill points invested in 'jump'). Triple Jump would be tier 3 version of it, needless to say, with a cool down of at least 10 seconds. The last one is 'Super Jump' which, just like the other 2, were shown and tested in APOC. That would be a tier 3 jump ability that is augmented with either rogue or a ranger class augments.

2) Grapple Hook of a ranger. Self explanatory. Can be used in a variety of environments for mobility purposes

3) Climbing ability of a Rogue (cannot be used in certain places and you can't stay on a surface longer than 5-7 seconds)

4) Polymorph (to be used on both an enemy and oneself) It was used and tested in APOC tho would be cool to see it used on an enemy as well which would turn them into some sort of small creature from Verra.

I think that Steven once said that Rogues would get a grappling hook to scale walls etc, but i am not sure if it still a part of the game or not.

What I would like to see:
1. APOC dash as a rogue ability with two charges (Who doesnt like flying around the battlefield? ;D)
2. Charge + Disengage for Ranger/Fighter; Fighter/Ranger or just a disengage for Rangers (Backflip or what you want to call it)

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XiuXan

I would love to see a type of aura from clerics where you perhaps get a heal or debuff from poison/disease each other tick. Perhaps get a dmg aura VS undead where they get increasingly more dmg the closer they are to you.

In wow paladins got auras but I feel something similar but as I said would want healing instead of protection.

Damokles

XiuXan wrote: »

I would love to see a type of aura from clerics where you perhaps get a heal or debuff from poison/disease each other tick. Perhaps get a dmg aura VS undead where they get increasingly more dmg the closer they are to you.

In wow paladins got auras but I feel something similar but as I said would want healing instead of protection.

*BARD GAMEPLAY INTENSIFIES*

ataulfos

i would like to see greater summons that be able to push back front liners but in regards the caster get like % down while the mounstrous creature is in the battle field, so ppl have to actually watch out for casters

Nagash

Damokles wrote: »

XiuXan wrote: »

I would love to see a type of aura from clerics where you perhaps get a heal or debuff from poison/disease each other tick. Perhaps get a dmg aura VS undead where they get increasingly more dmg the closer they are to you.

In wow paladins got auras but I feel something similar but as I said would want healing instead of protection.

*BARD GAMEPLAY INTENSIFIES*

Zambar

I"d like to see a sacrafice skill for summoner that grant a buff based on the pet beeing sacrafised or we can say the pet grants that buff an dissapear, looking at it in a more nature loved way. Basically summoners suck in melee, so it would bb good to have an option to gain more movement speed from a speed type support pet, or become more tanky if a tank type pet were sacrafised. it would grant pvp options for summoners.

Aardvark

Nagash wrote: »

You all stay away from my necromancer

If you die don't worry another nerco will summon you as their pet...a necro pet that can summon more necro pets lol

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