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Will this game end up like ARK

KeithKeith Member
in General Discussion
For anyone that doesn't know ARK, it's a game where servers are typically 70 players max. All the servers have one "alpha tribe". These Alphas typically go around killing all new players. How will the devs prevent this from happening with servers? One tribe could ally up and own the whole server. I am currently part of a tribe in ARK called BLDX, the whole alliance has 300+ members online on discord at any given time, they are spread across many servers. So it is perfecly plausable a group bands an alliance large enough to take over a server and constantly destroy any new players aspirations and "nodes" being developed.

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  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    While this is perfectly possible, it would require thousands of players, not hundreds, and all of them on one server, with similar play times.
  • FuryBladeborneFuryBladeborne Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Each server is intended to have 50,000 accounts with 6-8,000 accounts concurrently active. I don't see how the OP problem could be stopped, but I also doubt that any group will become large enough to dominate the whole server. Even if it happens, such a group would probably fall apart within a few months due to internal politics/bickering/ etc.
  • HazardNumberSevenHazardNumberSeven Member, Alpha Two
    I very much doubt it.
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  • HazardNumberSevenHazardNumberSeven Member, Alpha Two
    Don't worry. A mega-guild/clan/tribe from games like Ark, LO, Atlas, Conan, Rust, etc.. wouldn't be big enough to fully take over a server and if they do, the lead dev has expressed that zerging and zerg clans just won't be supported by the game mechanics. There will always be something you can do to fight back... and downsides to being that large and powerful that you can take advantage of.

    Even if, worst case scenario, somehow the entire server is taken over by 1 guild, you will still be able to combat them economically, politically, and even socially.. Groups that large, I promise you, have a lot of internal dramas and conflicts just waiting to explode.
  • LafiLafi Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I also very much doubt those survivalist players will see ashes and think its their next title. If they did then why're they not played all the other mmos that the game is taking influence for?
    Firstly its not Full Loot, secondly the game literally does not support zerging that much, thirdly the playerbase doesnt support it.
    If they want a server just for themselves, then let them, they'll fight eachother for a bit, get bored because its not even close to the way they want to play, and then either leave the zerg and break up into normal guilds or just quit and go back to rust or whatever.

    Imo of course
    Twitch.tv/Lafidell
  • BlackBronyBlackBrony Member, Alpha Two
    Look at Eve.
    Spies, sabotage, anything. This mean that mega guilds are good, yes, but also a detriment.
    You can't organize a node war without telling your guild that is coming, and what if someone is a spy and let the other node know, and eventually they can add defenses, or find a way to move all the resources elsewhere.
    Large guilds bring drama, friction and discontent from one part of the guild that is not being considered, so, yeah, they will work, but they will also fall.
    If Rome fell, so can a mega guild.
  • thorgar runemasterthorgar runemaster Member
    Ark is still completely different than AOC so no worries.
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  • darthadendarthaden Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    You should read up on the corruption system. Yes there will be ganking but will most likely be rare unless you do something that really annoys people or your a member of a pvp guild yourself. The punishment for killing innocent players will be enough to prevent most people from ganking someone who's simply playing the game and minding their own business
  • LafiLafi Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    darthaden wrote: »
    You should read up on the corruption system. Yes there will be ganking but will most likely be rare unless you do something that really annoys people or your a member of a pvp guild yourself. The punishment for killing innocent players will be enough to prevent most people from ganking someone who's simply playing the game and minding their own business

    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Corruption
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