George Black wrote: » You keep using "P2W" in your threads and then proceed to discribe something that has NOTHING to do with the meaning of the term, but more like "did you know real life money gets people to do things for you?" Just stop.
George Black wrote: » Btw this whole "whistleblowers" concept is nothing more than a no-brainer "Im an IS staff, possing as a player in order to identify real money transactions and ban". Why the fvck do you have to keep posting "AoC is P2W" on forums?
Marzzo wrote: » George Black wrote: » You keep using "P2W" in your threads and then proceed to discribe something that has NOTHING to do with the meaning of the term, but more like "did you know real life money gets people to do things for you?" Just stop. While words usually have a typical meaning and definition, they are ultimatly subjective. P2W, in it's common meaning, is when you have the ability to pay IRL money for ingame advantages not avaible for people who do not use IRL money. By this definition, I am using P2W correctly. This is not real life. Money should not get other people to do things for me in this game.
Marzzo wrote: » P2W, in it's common meaning, is when you have the ability to pay IRL money for ingame advantages not avaible for people who do not use IRL money.
George Black wrote: » Marzzo wrote: » George Black wrote: » You keep using "P2W" in your threads and then proceed to discribe something that has NOTHING to do with the meaning of the term, but more like "did you know real life money gets people to do things for you?" Just stop. While words usually have a typical meaning and definition, they are ultimatly subjective. P2W, in it's common meaning, is when you have the ability to pay IRL money for ingame advantages not avaible for people who do not use IRL money. By this definition, I am using P2W correctly. This is not real life. Money should not get other people to do things for me in this game. Great, so you feeling like you are being technically correct about the meaning of p2w is a good enough reason to make topics that just discuss how money works in this life. And you see NO HARM DONE having "AoC is P2W" thread titles on these games forums. Because you know, technically you think you are correct, and it doesnt matter that a couple of idiots may get the wrong idea and go spread out more misinformation to other people. So, moraly, you are not responsible for hurting AoC, since you are technically correct that "real life money exists!" Just stop these p2w topics man... go back to some other interesting discussions that you successfully started before.
Marzzo wrote: » George Black wrote: » Marzzo wrote: » George Black wrote: » You keep using "P2W" in your threads and then proceed to discribe something that has NOTHING to do with the meaning of the term, but more like "did you know real life money gets people to do things for you?" Just stop. While words usually have a typical meaning and definition, they are ultimatly subjective. P2W, in it's common meaning, is when you have the ability to pay IRL money for ingame advantages not avaible for people who do not use IRL money. By this definition, I am using P2W correctly. This is not real life. Money should not get other people to do things for me in this game. Great, so you feeling like you are being technically correct about the meaning of p2w is a good enough reason to make topics that just discuss how money works in this life. And you see NO HARM DONE having "AoC is P2W" thread titles on these games forums. Because you know, technically you think you are correct, and it doesnt matter that a couple of idiots may get the wrong idea and go spread out more misinformation to other people. So, moraly, you are not responsible for hurting AoC, since you are technically correct that "real life money exists!" Just stop these p2w topics man... go back to some other interesting discussions that you successfully started before. If this is such an unnesesary post, tell me how we can stop the issue i presented here?
Ravudha wrote: » Marzzo wrote: » P2W, in it's common meaning, is when you have the ability to pay IRL money for ingame advantages not avaible for people who do not use IRL money. Going to have to disagree with this - I'd say it's common meaning is when the game includes features that facilitate the ability to pay IRL money for ingame advantages. If you want to talk about money changing hands outside the game's control, that's a stretch. Along those lines, we could just say anyone who buys a high-end gaming rig or superior internet plan is paying to win by using IRL money for a performance advantage.
George Black wrote: » Marzzo wrote: » George Black wrote: » Marzzo wrote: » George Black wrote: » You keep using "P2W" in your threads and then proceed to discribe something that has NOTHING to do with the meaning of the term, but more like "did you know real life money gets people to do things for you?" Just stop. While words usually have a typical meaning and definition, they are ultimatly subjective. P2W, in it's common meaning, is when you have the ability to pay IRL money for ingame advantages not avaible for people who do not use IRL money. By this definition, I am using P2W correctly. This is not real life. Money should not get other people to do things for me in this game. Great, so you feeling like you are being technically correct about the meaning of p2w is a good enough reason to make topics that just discuss how money works in this life. And you see NO HARM DONE having "AoC is P2W" thread titles on these games forums. Because you know, technically you think you are correct, and it doesnt matter that a couple of idiots may get the wrong idea and go spread out more misinformation to other people. So, moraly, you are not responsible for hurting AoC, since you are technically correct that "real life money exists!" Just stop these p2w topics man... go back to some other interesting discussions that you successfully started before. If this is such an unnesesary post, tell me how we can stop the issue i presented here? This issue is not present. Just like gold sellers are being banned in other games due to report or GMs finding them on their own, so will boosting be treated in the same way due to inrl money.
Marzzo wrote: » George Black wrote: » Marzzo wrote: » George Black wrote: » Marzzo wrote: » George Black wrote: » You keep using "P2W" in your threads and then proceed to discribe something that has NOTHING to do with the meaning of the term, but more like "did you know real life money gets people to do things for you?" Just stop. While words usually have a typical meaning and definition, they are ultimatly subjective. P2W, in it's common meaning, is when you have the ability to pay IRL money for ingame advantages not avaible for people who do not use IRL money. By this definition, I am using P2W correctly. This is not real life. Money should not get other people to do things for me in this game. Great, so you feeling like you are being technically correct about the meaning of p2w is a good enough reason to make topics that just discuss how money works in this life. And you see NO HARM DONE having "AoC is P2W" thread titles on these games forums. Because you know, technically you think you are correct, and it doesnt matter that a couple of idiots may get the wrong idea and go spread out more misinformation to other people. So, moraly, you are not responsible for hurting AoC, since you are technically correct that "real life money exists!" Just stop these p2w topics man... go back to some other interesting discussions that you successfully started before. If this is such an unnesesary post, tell me how we can stop the issue i presented here? This issue is not present. Just like gold sellers are being banned in other games due to report or GMs finding them on their own, so will boosting be treated in the same way due to inrl money. The thing is, this is a whole different level of issue compared to gold sellers. Nobody that knows what will be valuable in the game will buy gold. People will buy raid spots with loot priority. And currently, there is no system stopping you from doing that.
George Black wrote: » Marzzo wrote: » George Black wrote: » Marzzo wrote: » George Black wrote: » Marzzo wrote: » George Black wrote: » You keep using "P2W" in your threads and then proceed to discribe something that has NOTHING to do with the meaning of the term, but more like "did you know real life money gets people to do things for you?" Just stop. While words usually have a typical meaning and definition, they are ultimatly subjective. P2W, in it's common meaning, is when you have the ability to pay IRL money for ingame advantages not avaible for people who do not use IRL money. By this definition, I am using P2W correctly. This is not real life. Money should not get other people to do things for me in this game. Great, so you feeling like you are being technically correct about the meaning of p2w is a good enough reason to make topics that just discuss how money works in this life. And you see NO HARM DONE having "AoC is P2W" thread titles on these games forums. Because you know, technically you think you are correct, and it doesnt matter that a couple of idiots may get the wrong idea and go spread out more misinformation to other people. So, moraly, you are not responsible for hurting AoC, since you are technically correct that "real life money exists!" Just stop these p2w topics man... go back to some other interesting discussions that you successfully started before. If this is such an unnesesary post, tell me how we can stop the issue i presented here? This issue is not present. Just like gold sellers are being banned in other games due to report or GMs finding them on their own, so will boosting be treated in the same way due to inrl money. The thing is, this is a whole different level of issue compared to gold sellers. Nobody that knows what will be valuable in the game will buy gold. People will buy raid spots with loot priority. And currently, there is no system stopping you from doing that. Yes there is. The report a player system.
Marzzo wrote: » Tell me, how would you feel if I don't like your guild, and simply pay some IRL cash to wipe out your hard earned city time after time til you leave the server?
Aeri wrote: » Marzzo wrote: » Tell me, how would you feel if I don't like your guild, and simply pay some IRL cash to wipe out your hard earned city time after time til you leave the server? Considering there is a fairly long timer between when sieges can occur - once a month for castles, 20-50 days for nodes, depending on size - I doubt this would get out of hand enough to "force" someone to leave the server. If someone paid a guild to siege your castle, say, and that guild won, they would own the castle. You could then siege the back a month later, if you wanted, to regain control of it. Then yet another month would have to go by before that guild could be paid again to siege your castle. Even for a tier 3 Village node, including the declaration wait timer, you'd be looking at ~45 days between when a hypothetical paid guild could siege you again. Also, you're using the term whistleblower incorrectly. The GMs would not be whistleblowers in any of your examples. A whistleblower would be someone in the guild doing the boosting itself, who reports on that guild to the GMs.
George Black wrote: » The solution is simple. Word gets out that people offer services. Players report them. IS looks into the reports and poses as player buying services from discord. Raid ends, IS staff permabans all the raid. Same scenario with the PvP guild. Word gets out. Players report the activity. IS reads reports. Pose as player, buy services. Ban guild.
Marzzo wrote: » I see, you are correct and I agree with you. Based on the wiki though, it says that sieges on nodes have a month cooldown. Can't see anything about size mattering. Maybe I missed it?
