Death and taxes, but mostly death. Where will I go when I die? (In AoC)

So what happens when you die in Ashes of Creation?

Usually there is some sort of penalty for dying. A tax on time to run back and a durability hit to your equipment is pretty standard. Where a dungeon death sends you back to the entrance.

Since AoC will have open world dungeons, there will clearly be pvp in there.

So I wanna know what happens when you die?
Will these penalties apply if slain by a player?
Where do I Rez? Will I have to do a corpse run?
Let's skip talking about corruption, I get that one.

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Kneczhevo

@Hurf Derfman

Vek are going to be goblins, and the nano dwarves are gnomes. Shhhh. Our secret.

But, yup.

Hurf Derfman

Kneczhevo wrote: »

@Hurf Derfman

Vek are going to be goblins, and the nano dwarves are gnomes. Shhhh. Our secret.

But, yup.

😳😲🤯

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Caeryl

Hurf Derfman wrote: »

So the next question, is outside of being corrupted, should purple or green flagged players suffer anything other than the inconvenience of having to run back to the event if/when killed by another player?

Yes. Having penalties for dying discourages passive, uninteractive gameplay, and it discourages reckless trollish gameplay like pulling mobs onto people or leroy jenkins'ing content you're not suited for.

If there's no consequence to dying, it may as well be a fast-travel-to-town system.

Warth

A non-combatant (green player) who dies suffers normal penalties, which include:[3]

Experience debt (negative experience).[4]

Skill and stat dampening.[3]
Lower health and mana.[3]
Lower gear proficiency.[3]
Reduction in drop rates from monsters.[5]
Durability loss.[3]
Dropping a percentage of carried raw materials.[3]
This includes a percentage of items carried on the player's mule.[6]
This also includes a percentage of the certificates a player is carrying.[7]

A combatant (purple player) who dies suffers these same penalties, but at half the rate of a non-combatant.[3]
A corrupt (red player) suffers penalties at four times[8] the rate of a non-combatant, and has a chance to drop any carried/equipped items based on their current corruption score.

Death penalties do not differ between PvP and PvE, but this is subject to change.[13]

Saucisson

An important thing to consider, when you are in a group and you die (and only you) deep into a dungeon, you'll have to join back your group but depending on the amount of other players clearing the dungeon, this can be difficult alone just because of the mobs you can't ignore or kill alone, or the time it would take. So sometime your whole group might need to go back and get you.

That's how it worked in DAoC where we had non-instanciated dungeons.

Regarding XP penalty on death, something i liked in DAoC was that you could go back where you died if you wanted and pray on the little stone tomb you left behind when you died. This would give you back a portion of what you lost. One of the fun part of this is that you could see in some dangerous area a bunch of tombs and be more careful, also, randomly finding the tomb of a player you knew was always fun

Hurf Derfman

Yeah I've seen the head mechanic before in other games.

Instead of running back to your corpse you ran back to the location of your death to reclaim lost XP.

I liked it at the time.

Khronus

The name of the game is to protect your clerics at all costs. Otherwise you'll be running back with that group that is trying to gank you!

Hurf Derfman

@KHRONUS Yeah, and don't release if the healer is still up and wait for a Rez.

Otherwise as it stands now, you may have to wait for your purple flag to drop before releasing.

Anything beyond that is hard to gauge without more clarification from the Devs.

Hurf Derfman

Caeryl wrote: »

Hurf Derfman wrote: »

So the next question, is outside of being corrupted, should purple or green flagged players suffer anything other than the inconvenience of having to run back to the event if/when killed by another player?

Yes. Having penalties for dying discourages passive, uninteractive gameplay, and it discourages reckless trollish gameplay like pulling mobs onto people or leroy jenkins'ing content you're not suited for.

If there's no consequence to dying, it may as well be a fast-travel-to-town system.

Suicide by PVP is hardly an efficient means of fast travel.

Obviously death penalties are fine in a PVE context for the reasons you mentioned.

And corrupted deserve to have their pants taken from them.

Khronus

@Hurf Derfman I don't know man......that goes against years of me telling people "don't be lazy waiting for a rez, release and run back!!!" haha. But yeah that makes sense!

tugowar

If you lived a good life, You come back as a Vek.

If a bad life, then a tulnar.

Hurf Derfman

tugowar wrote: »

If you lived a good life, You come back as a Vek.

If a bad life, then a tulnar.

Then I shall forever be a chaotic neutral Ren'Kai.

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