Tragnar wrote: » well there are supposed to be no oneshots so it is kinda unreasonable to think they cant react quickly enough to not do any PvP action that flags them (like healing themselves/others) Edit: Isn't the kill time aimed at 30+s?
Tragnar wrote: » well if 20 people can nuke anyone by jumping on them and nuking them then I say they deserve the corruption in open world anything that is valuable like protecting caravans is inherintly pvp flagged so no worry there
Tragnar wrote: » I think you have the wrong assumption here, because if two such groups get into each other than it is no brainer that any pvp action from anyone in the group flags the whole group for pvp. And it is literally unrealistic that you can get enough people in range for oneshotting the healer before anyone from his group can do any pvp flagging action against you.
Tragnar wrote: » being surprised and thus not being able to protect the healers from getting killed and being surprised so no group member can do any flagging action before enough of the group gets into position to oneshot the healer are two separate things I'm under the assumption that you don't know how automated flagging system for group works. Also you are not worried about corruption happening at all - not if it increased from an immersive system. Also your scenario works only for highly coordinated group that is focused on the same target. Which is unrealistic for 99% of organic world group PvP
Tragnar wrote: » The way I see it you need to prepare for dealing with corruption either way. Shouldn't matter that you and all of your group get from healers slightly more. That worry shouldn't prevent the devs from implementing flavorful additions to the game
Tragnar wrote: » It is not only flavorful, but as well balancing addition. Many healers will play solo as well and the fact that they are healers is making them inherently bad for PvP until they get into a group. Awarding the same corruption for every class/archetype is just not balanced in any shape or form. Corruption is there to punish unanswered PvP and it should punish more if there are compounding reasons. And don't take it that I want to increase the average corruption awarded - just that there should be differences between roles It is the same principle as people get more punishing sentences for harassment of children and helpless people. I know it is pretty extreme comparison, but griefing in any game is the same action as harassment in real life. Just platform is different with different consequences
Tragnar wrote: » It is not only flavorful, but as well balancing addition. Many healers will play solo as well and the fact that they are healers is making them inherently bad for PvP until they get into a group. Awarding the same corruption for every class/archetype is just not balanced in any shape or form. Corruption is there to punish unanswered PvP and it should punish more if there are compounding reasons. And don't take it that I want to increase the average corruption awarded - just that there should be differences between roles It is the same principle as people get more punishing sentences for harassment of children and helpless people. I know it is pretty extreme comparison, but griefing in any game is the same action as harassment in real life. Just platform is different with different consequences Edit: Also solution for your problem is to have averaged out corruption when attacking a group
Tragnar wrote: » This is not about group content - especially in consensual PvP (where corruption doesnt exist) but about solo play where players like to heavily focus healing classes, because they mean free loot for not being able to fight back - in many games a free pvp currency
Bricktop wrote: » Interesting because you and he go through a lot of the same motions like accusing everybody of misunderstanding you and ignoring massive portions of someones reply to cherry pick 1 little tiny part to write a dissertation about.
Noaani wrote: » Bricktop wrote: » Interesting because you and he go through a lot of the same motions like accusing everybody of misunderstanding you and ignoring massive portions of someones reply to cherry pick 1 little tiny part to write a dissertation about. If you think that he and I are the same person, you have not been paying as much attention as you think. Generally speaking, if I ignore a part of a post, it is either because I have already addressed the same point recently, or it is so misguided a point that was made that I don't feel it worth my time. Any point that is actually interesting or valid always gets my time.
Bricktop wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Bricktop wrote: » Interesting because you and he go through a lot of the same motions like accusing everybody of misunderstanding you and ignoring massive portions of someones reply to cherry pick 1 little tiny part to write a dissertation about. If you think that he and I are the same person, you have not been paying as much attention as you think. Generally speaking, if I ignore a part of a post, it is either because I have already addressed the same point recently, or it is so misguided a point that was made that I don't feel it worth my time. Any point that is actually interesting or valid always gets my time. No i definitely don't think you are the same person don't worry. Just 2 very similar people is all.
Noaani wrote: » He is my version of your @Mojottv.
