Would Memorials Be Fitting? Or Would "Fresh-At-Zero" Be Best?

If your city is around for awhile - be it a basic city or a Metropolis - and then it gets crushed to Level Zero, would it be fitting for there to be *some* kind of memorial in the new node? Or would a completely "fresh-at-zero" setting be better?

Yours truly is the nostalgic type, and would greatly prefer to see some kind of memorial (i.e. a cracked statue or broken obelisk bearing the old city's former name, etc) that would be around permanently - be it sitting in the wilderness where a great city once stood, or in something akin to a small monument in the city park of a new city on the same node. However, that's not how everyone thinks nor feels about their former-homes in video games, obviously.

Or - given that it would require something permanent taking up space somewhere (even if just a little) - would it instead be better for literally everything to revert to it's original un-settled "default" node-space? Just wondering if anyone else shares that kind of nostalgia for the pixel-spaces players will call their homes.

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CROW3

Hm.. I'd place an effigy of the defeated mayor on a pike with a sign stating "Stay in line."

Too much?

Sathrago

Tyranthraxus wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

The whole world will be ruined at some point so this seems unnecessary

What makes you think this? Have read about decay, but I don't think yours truly has come across anything that implies or states that every node or city will eventually fall.

I believe what he meant by this is that at some point in the future all nodes will have been raised up and then destroyed who knows how many times over and over. Ruins for each old city wouldn't be possibls.

That or nagash Is doing what necromancers do and promising to kill everyone.

PlagueMonk

CROW3 wrote: »

Hm.. I'd place an effigy of the defeated mayor on a pike with a sign stating "Stay in line."

Too much?

maybe only appropriate for a military node. Don't they choose the mayor by a survival of the fittest arena combat match or something like that?

I also found this:

Trophy park

Trophy park is an area within Town, City or Metropolis nodes that has available spots for trophies. These trophies show the character names of players who are the first to complete world bosses and dungeon bosses that were spawned as the result of the development of that particular node.

This might also be an appropriate spot

daveywavey

Sathrago wrote: »

That or nagash Is doing what necromancers do and promising to kill everyone.

That's what I took from it...

Tyranthraxus

PlagueMonk wrote: »

CROW3 wrote: »

Hm.. I'd place an effigy of the defeated mayor on a pike with a sign stating "Stay in line."

Too much?

maybe only appropriate for a military node. Don't they choose the mayor by a survival of the fittest arena combat match or something like that?

I also found this:

Trophy park

Trophy park is an area within Town, City or Metropolis nodes that has available spots for trophies. These trophies show the character names of players who are the first to complete world bosses and dungeon bosses that were spawned as the result of the development of that particular node.

This might also be an appropriate spot

THIS would be a great place for such memorials! Hasn't gotten much attention, and while I'd read about these, it'd slipped my mind.

Some kind of honorable mention in these would be nice.

Tyranthraxus

Nagash wrote: »

The whole world will be ruined at some point so this seems unnecessary

While they're around, civilizations build monuments and memorials to the past. Just because civilizations have a life-span, it doesn't mean they should stop, does it?

Nagash

Tyranthraxus wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

The whole world will be ruined at some point so this seems unnecessary

While they're around, civilizations build monuments and memorials to the past. Just because civilizations have a life-span, it doesn't mean they should stop, does it?

but nodes are not civilizations they are towns and cities

unknownsystemerror

Nerror wrote: »

I like the general idea In fact, I would like to see ruins of the destroyed node stay in the game, until it is eventually rebuilt, if that happens

They (Jeffrey) have already said that they have looked at that, and that ruins of a destroyed node staying until the next levelling of that node will not work for them. When asked about what mechanic will be in place they have mentioned that there might be something through the history function of the scribe profession. So at least they are thinking about some method of memorial.

SerChubulas

Definitely like this idea, whether it be the library or the statue with a plaque on it.

BMellow

I love this idea! It makes perfect sense that a defeated metropolis would leave ruins behind at least for a while. Maybe those ruins have a chance to spawn a dungeon. Probably not easy to program that sort of thing I guess, but it could be something simple like a broken statue or monument that could stay or go as the node levels up again.

Tyranthraxus

unknownsystemerror wrote: »

Nerror wrote: »

I like the general idea In fact, I would like to see ruins of the destroyed node stay in the game, until it is eventually rebuilt, if that happens

They (Jeffrey) have already said that they have looked at that, and that ruins of a destroyed node staying until the next levelling of that node will not work for them. When asked about what mechanic will be in place they have mentioned that there might be something through the history function of the scribe profession. So at least they are thinking about some method of memorial.

Knew about the first part, but hadn't caught the second part anywhere. Am still watching through all of the interviews and Intrepid vids on YouTube. Just recently watched Asmongold's phone-interview with Steven, as well. They're all a wealth of insights into what the intended mechanics of the game are to be - and it seems right, for the next-generation of MMO evolution.

What a shame innovation has demanded the same styles of games be churned out for so long - and what shame that it has seemingly halted the advancement of creative and innovative game-systems and special mechanics, for so many years. I enjoy SWTOR (my long-time guild from SWG has been there since SWG shut down), but SWTOR's gameplay, gearing, raiding, and so many other systems are just clones of time-tested models for promoting max cash-flow as engineered in WoW - it's even got 2 of their 3 letters in it's acronym!

Am loving what I'm seeing, the more read-into it/watched-into-it we go, with Ashes! It'd be nice - but it doesn't have to be monuments; Yours truly is satisfied, with any system to remember our former cities with - either it be something in-game, or emulated-style on the forums. I'd simply more-greatly favor something in-game, as unique content.

Dayuhan

If it was destroyed and then rebuilt then their would be no need for a memorial. If it was destroyed and the destroying faction built a new city of their own in its place then they would not likely memorialize the destroyed city of their foes. If the city was destroyed and nothing was rebuilt then perhaps a stela could be raised by the survivors to memorialize what once was. Otherwise, history shows memorials remain only as long as those who remember them.

Sathrago

You know it would be hilarious if they added in the lore that every race is so fixated on leaving behind their own history that they actively remove historical monuments and ruins from other races.

Atama

Sathrago wrote: »

You know it would be hilarious if they added in the lore that every race is so fixated on leaving behind their own history that they actively remove historical monuments and ruins from other races.

That’s way too close to real life history though.

AndAfter

Atama wrote: »

Sathrago wrote: »

You know it would be hilarious if they added in the lore that every race is so fixated on leaving behind their own history that they actively remove historical monuments and ruins from other races.

That’s way too close to real life history though.

Yeah it hits a bit too close to home as an Anthropology student :'(

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