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Hi Intrepid,

Could you please release the game on Linux also please?

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Ashes of Creation will be released on the Windows PC platform.[262]

Console support may be added at a later point.
Native Linux support may be possible in future.[263]

Micromegas

Yes!, Yes! Ashes on Linux please! xD make it happen!

Filosofis

Unreal Engine runs very well on Linux. The only issue seems to be anti cheat systems. I really hope native Linux will be allowed.

Valento92

I wonder why most MMOs I'm aware of never made it to Linux? Genuinely wanted to know, is it because of tech available at those times? Or something else?

IndependentStrudel

Very interested as well...

Pannath

Please add Linux support. This game probably should have been made in Vulkan because DirectX sucks, but oh well.

Azeem

what is a linux.

daveywavey

Azeem wrote: »

what is a linux.

It's a type of big cat, right?!

unknownsystemerror

Azeem wrote: »

what is a linux.

Isn't that the guy who hangs out with Charlie Brown and has an unhealthy blanket obsession?

Grimfaldra

Valento92 wrote: »

I wonder why most MMOs I'm aware of never made it to Linux? Genuinely wanted to know, is it because of tech available at those times? Or something else?

Many if not all MMOs of "old" are written in C/C++...

And then it it really depended on the graphics. If you made an OpenGL game, it would be completely portable. In theory. If you chose other systems like Direct3D/DirectX, no porting was possible.

And in reality, writing truly portable code in C/C++ to run on Linux systems AND Windows without a hitch is a pain in the ass and much more than double the effort you have to put in to get it to run properly on one platform. Been there, done that. And it was horrible, even with the non-graphical code i had to do. I shudder at the thought to have to do that "properly" with any game engine that does not natively run on both platforms right from the bat.

And even though Unreal Engine and a few others basically allow you to use the same code between platforms, there are always subtle differences that drive you nuts in the rest of your code. Do not get me started on threading (running program-parts in parallel), Input/Output (Mouse/Keyboard) and security (anti-cheat). Of course, there are cross-platform libraries that make all those tasks easier, but still.

Even though I am an advocate for multi-platform gaming, I would rather like to see AoC run nicely on Windows and maybe later get ported/optimized for Linux.

maouw

As much as I need to pay more attention to Occam's Razor, I can't help being suspicious of people wanting AoC for Linux.

AoC - no third party plugin support.
Linux - third party package paradise, home turf of the cleverrest "what security features do we have here?" people.

These are the people who hide behind 7 VPNs because - BECAUSE - they have something to hide.

Grimfaldra

maouw wrote: »

As much as I need to pay more attention to Occam's Razor, I can't help being suspicious of people wanting AoC for Linux.

AoC - no third party plugin support.
Linux - third party package paradise, home turf of the cleverrest "what security features do we have here?" people.

These are the people who hide behind 7 VPNs because - BECAUSE - they have something to hide.

Or maybe they use one VPN since it is none of your fucking business where I connect from.

I am not sure what packaging systems on an OS-level have anything to do with AoC? And if you think, Windows has no support for a metric f***ton of third party software (in packaged form...) you might want to do more research.

If anything, I can break any protective code running under Windows much faster than in Linux.

maouw

Grimfaldra wrote: »

maouw wrote: »

As much as I need to pay more attention to Occam's Razor, I can't help being suspicious of people wanting AoC for Linux.

AoC - no third party plugin support.
Linux - third party package paradise, home turf of the cleverrest "what security features do we have here?" people.

These are the people who hide behind 7 VPNs because - BECAUSE - they have something to hide.

Or maybe they use one VPN since it is none of your fucking business where I connect from.

I am not sure what packaging systems on an OS-level have anything to do with AoC? And if you think, Windows has no support for a metric f***ton of third party software (in packaged form...) you might want to do more research.

If anything, I can break any protective code running under Windows much faster than in Linux.

My concern is OS-level customization is lower level than engine design, plus the average linux user is more likely to be doing things at kernel level than the average windows user. True?

Dude half the reason we use Linux is because we get frustrated at Window's ability to get things done. Especially customized stuff.

If AoC was an open-source project with clear benefits for users to contribute to stronger security features, I'd be all for Linux support. But it's not.

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I would also be very happy about a native Linux support.

However, it would be very good if it was Linux friendly. That is, that no obstacles are built in and you can get it to run reasonably with WINE.

For the beginning that would help a lot.

Anything else would drag out the development even more and I don't think anyone wants that.

However, it should be a long-term goal to make AOC Native available for Linux.

JustVine

daveywavey wrote: »

Azeem wrote: »

what is a linux.

It's a type of big cat, right?!

I thought it was a type of flightless bird....

Qaa

+1 for linux support!

palabana

Valento92 wrote: »

I wonder why most MMOs I'm aware of never made it to Linux? Genuinely wanted to know, is it because of tech available at those times? Or something else?

Anti-cheat systems and graphics drivers.

Nvidia (the major gaming market) is known to not give a crap about Linux although that's starting to change now. AMD have always done a great job with their graphics drivers on Linux.

On the other hand, almost no major anti-cheat systems for online games supports Linux. There is PunkBuster but no uses it anymore. Thanks to Steam Deck, we now have EAC and BattlEye as well with EAC being the go-to anti-cheat systems for most online games.

Uncommon Sense

Microsoft intends to stop support/security updates for Win10 Oct2025...while considering a user paid subscription to updates as 68% of users are still on windows 10 and show no interest in 11 or 12 with along with the system requirements....along with all the user data harvesting and telemetry..while trying to force feed Bing and edge at every opportunity...

Win10 will be my last edition and I will likely be going over to Linux Mint. I doubt Ashes will be in full release by Oct 2025.

Most of my Steam Library has Linux support.

Linux is becoming a more gamer friendly operating system...Though I understand why Intrepid might be apprehensive about spreading development resources.

I would like them at least consider the direction Micro$oft is heading and that finding support for Linux might be a worthwhile consideration.

Granted I will probably run Win10 beyond the phase out...

Enigmatic Sage

Windows 12 is around the corner. Windows 10 is still fine for many years. I read that windows 12 will be a free upgrade from 11 for those than can support it.

Uncommon Sense

Win12 will be a data harvesting nightmare. Win11 is a buggy mess right now that has specific hardware requirements putting many currently functional PCs unable to upgrade or contributing to E'waste. All of them a full of bloat baked in that sometimes cannot be removed. Win 10 is not fine for many years it is planned EOL Oct 2025 which is less than 2 years...

Unreal Engine 5 has Linux support out of the box...

The problem for intrepid is more likely networking and security adopting multi distribution platforms.

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