Redemption of murderous players. How easy should it be?

Steven has mentioned before that the more players a person has killed (PK count), the more corruption would that player incur with each new PK and the higher the chances to lose gear upon death will be.

But he also mentioned that there would be activities to reduce a characters PK count (not to be confused with corruption points).

What ways would you reccoment for a player to lower the PK count? How easy should it be to redeem ones self?
Should it be level based?

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Atama

Zorr wrote: »

They should have to battle their way through the twelve chambers of hell

So make them sit all day in a virtual driver’s licensing office.

Sathrago

I would need to see the degree of corruption and how it scales over multiple kills before I could tell you whether it was too much or too little. I would lean more towards "You made your bed now lie in it." If you kill enough non combatants that when you die you are still corrupted you deserve the camping you are about to get.

BobzUrUncle

Atama wrote: »

Zorr wrote: »

They should have to battle their way through the twelve chambers of hell

So make them sit all day in a virtual driver’s licensing office.

Nooooooooooo!

Leiloni

George Black wrote: »

Leiloni your first post here is confusing.

Are you lacking in reading comprehension? Read the several posts above mine. Noanni, Dreoh, Noanni again. There is a conversation going and I responded to that. My post is quite clear in context.

George_Black

You typed:

Yes but that's not how the system works. The system works by offering ways to lower your corruption score until you are no longer red. And to add to what he said, aside from XP grinding, I believe merely dying while Red also lowers your corruption.

Why do you bring corruption score to a PK count thread?
You and Dreoh have comprehension difficulties. Not me.
All it takes is one person posting to a thread, without even thinking, without even reading; in this case Dreoh, and a few more like you and the others to derail it.
You have an issue regarding staying on topic.
How is this the topic to discuss "corruption: how it wears off", when I posted about PK count (not to be confused with corruption points), and why if you wanna talk about corruption points don't you start a relevant topic?

akabear

The way I see it, for discussion

Low-level player killing the low-level player
- low karma for the kill
- should be easy to burn off as a low level is usually quick to progress
- low level kill often has low impact, except where possibly griefing

Low-level player-killing high-level player
- low karma for the kill
- quite frankly if they can achieve the kill then kudos to them

High-level player killing high-level player
-grading amount per increase in pk count

Time to burn off approx
- 20-30min per kill high level,
- 10-20min low level

Noaani

akabear wrote: »

Time to burn off approx
- 20-30min per kill high level,
- 10-20min low level

As a general guide, without any more information at all than this, I would say this is about where I would want it to be as well.

akabear

But exponential for cumulative kills in on session meaning
1st kill requires 20+min to burn off,
2nd 20+25
3rd 20+25+35
4th 20+25+35+50

L2 did it as an amount of karma that related to xp.. so that 20min would be 20min in a med-high xp place.. but that med-high xp place might also be high visibility so quick to burn off at risk of being killed, where as a slower place to burn off the karma may also be safer..

With a bounty hunter system, will be fun and games for the few that try the system first!

Leiloni

George Black wrote: »

You typed:

Yes but that's not how the system works. The system works by offering ways to lower your corruption score until you are no longer red. And to add to what he said, aside from XP grinding, I believe merely dying while Red also lowers your corruption.

Why do you bring corruption score to a PK count thread?
You and Dreoh have comprehension difficulties. Not me.
All it takes is one person posting to a thread, without even thinking, without even reading; in this case Dreoh, and a few more like you and the others to derail it.
You have an issue regarding staying on topic.
How is this the topic to discuss "corruption: how it wears off", when I posted about PK count (not to be confused with corruption points), and why if you wanna talk about corruption points don't you start a relevant topic?

This post right here, and the person he's quoting, are both confusing "how to get rid of corruption" with "how to reduce kill count". They both are intending to talk about ideas as to how you might reduce kill count, and then instead spend their entire posts discussing corruption instead.

Noaani wrote: »

Voidwalkers wrote: »

Since murderous players are "corrupted" by killing players who didn't fight back, it might be interesting to let them "redeem" themselves through performing "services" for other players, e.g. completing player-posted jobs, escorting caravans etc.

But there're probably tons of ways to exploit this - e.g. have friends post a bunch of relatively trivial jobs and complete them for redemption credits.

Having your kill count lowered from assisting caravans could be a good idea - but it would need to be done well.

Players with corruption would need to sign up for defending a caravan that has a specific destination in mind, and only gain their count reduction if said caravan makes it to it's destination. The reduction offered needs to reflect the distance the caravan travels.

In order to prevent the corrupt player using this system in order to gain knowledge of a caravans location in order to have friends attack it, they would need to stand to gain an amount of corruption commensurate to the value of materials in the caravan if it does not make it to it's destination.

I could see this working as a system. There are likely more potential exploits that need to be looked in to, but as a general idea, I like it.

And this guy as well:

daveywavey wrote: »

It'd be interesting to have them work it off by Bounty Hunting other Corrupted players, in addition to the normal "work it off with XP" thing.

So no I did not derail your thread. It got derailed by everyone else fairly early on. It's clear people are confused about the idea of working off kill count vs being corrupted. Stop obsessing over every post I make on these forums.

Nagash

I say this to all tulanr and corrupted beings "Some may question me right to destroy people. Those who understand know that I have no right to let them live."

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