Please change the name Cleric

Honorable Citizens,

To be more in line with the naming convention for the 'Tank', I suggest the Cleric be renamed to 'Healer'.

Also, to further hold true to the history and culture of Vera, class archetypes that focus on damage should be renamed 'DeePeeEs'.

Thank you.

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unknownsystemerror

Mennis wrote: »

maouw wrote: »

I don't think people are going to refer to each other by the 64 class names. If you need a tank for a raid, you're going to say "tank" or whatever archetype terminology the devs settle on (Pretty sure they're leaning towards Tank - but you never know)

It's true but, isnt that going to be determined by the server itself rather than the name of it? And i was thinking about just when you see a character or inspect them thats when you are not going too see the name that often.

Nope, was changed after people complained about "threat determination." The only info that you won't be able to tell at a glance left is actual hit points (unless grouped, or part of same affiliation) and specific gear. You will know what tier and type people are wearing. Can't wait if they create 64 different icon displays for each combo that people have to memorize. Most can't remember a 6 digit password.

Nameplate
A character's nameplate is displayed above their head.[12]

This can be the first or last name (family name).[12]
The name of the character's Guild is displayed next to their name.[13]
The character's nameplate will deteriorate to give an indication of how much damage they have taken.[14][7][15]
An icon will identify the character's class.[16]
Hovering over the user's nameplate will show information such as level, their class name and archetype combo.[16]
A buff icon indicates the character's gear and grade.[16][17][18]

Marcet

@Jahlon

"Tanks" can spec for damage dealers too.

Jahlon

Marcet wrote: »

@Jahlon

"Tanks" can spec for damage dealers too.

True
But no other Archetype can spec for Main Tank

mcstackerson

Marcet wrote: »

"Tanks" can spec for damage dealers too.

But damage isn't part of the tanks identity, where the death aspect of cleric is.

uao

while we are at it, lets change the name 'ashes of creation' to 'pc game' to keep things consistent.

LieutenantToast

Oooweee a few more of these and we're gonna have to get ourselves a bigger merge button...

Atama

LieutenantToast wrote: »

Oooweee a few more of these and we're gonna have to get ourselves a bigger merge button...

You'll need a forum Black Hole to suck them all in.

Sathrago

LieutenantToast wrote: »

Oooweee a few more of these and we're gonna have to get ourselves a bigger merge button...

Whateeeeeever do you mean? This one is clearly about clerics and nothing else

Solid_Sneak

Why do people miss the part where Clerics literally contain damage augment builds.
Also, might as well change the name Rogue, as it comes from old french for "Arrogant".
Might as well change the name mage as it refers to a long since extinct tribe of mesopotamian people and claim it's to defeat cultural appropriation, and might as well ask for Rangers to be renamed since they are not 100% ranged (without knowing what "patrolling the range" refers to)

Tank is fine as a class name, it means you are heavily armored and so does Cleric as it means you are wearing vestments/identifying garbs (that is the literal meaning of the word from the greek root, christianity has NOTHING to do with it).

Shamans, witch doctors, and real physicians are viewed as "people of the cloth".

Hope this helped defeat the stigma of "Clerics are healbots", cause sooner or later one High Priest player will come out and Death Magic people in the face and every single misconception will be brutally dispelled.

Cruore

Who gives a holy f..k what it's called.
Some people really have to much time on their hands.

Atama

Solid Sneak wrote: »

Tank is fine as a class name, it means you are heavily armored

Just like all the armored military vehicles we will be seeing in Verra, right? Perfectly fine name.

Gizban

Cruore wrote: »

Who gives a holy f..k what it's called.
Some people really have to much time on their hands.

/breathless gasp

BLASPHEMER!

If you're going to be a passionate about something, it might as well be class names for an upcoming MMO that you've throw too much money at untold-months before release.
Right?

Gizban

LieutenantToast wrote: »

Oooweee a few more of these and we're gonna have to get ourselves a bigger merge button...

/e innocent look

What do you mean?

Gizban

Jahlon wrote: »

Marcet wrote: »

@Jahlon

"Tanks" can spec for damage dealers too.

True
But no other Archetype can spec for Main Tank

Just point me in the direction of the Main Healer, so I can look down my stately nose at all the grubby non-main-healer Clerics, as they squabble over deeps with the other dim-eyed, two-bit, ner'-do-well iron slappers.

/e brushes an imaginary crumb off the velvet hem of his brocade tunic

Noaani

Atama wrote: »

Solid Sneak wrote: »

Tank is fine as a class name, it means you are heavily armored

Just like all the armored military vehicles we will be seeing in Verra, right? Perfectly fine name.

I assume we'll be seeing Ford Rangers as well, right?

Or is that another name to change?

Sathrago

Solid Sneak wrote: »

Why do people miss the part where Clerics literally contain damage augment builds.
Also, might as well change the name Rogue, as it comes from old french for "Arrogant".
Might as well change the name mage as it refers to a long since extinct tribe of mesopotamian people and claim it's to defeat cultural appropriation, and might as well ask for Rangers to be renamed since they are not 100% ranged (without knowing what "patrolling the range" refers to)

Tank is fine as a class name, it means you are heavily armored and so does Cleric as it means you are wearing vestments/identifying garbs (that is the literal meaning of the word from the greek root, christianity has NOTHING to do with it).

Shamans, witch doctors, and real physicians are viewed as "people of the cloth".

Hope this helped defeat the stigma of "Clerics are healbots", cause sooner or later one High Priest player will come out and Death Magic people in the face and every single misconception will be brutally dispelled.

Just because they have damage augments does not mean other archetypes get healing augments.

Cleric is synonymous with healer until they come out with a way to completely remove its ability to heal or give other roles the ability to become a main healer. Yes, main healer, as in an actual full on healer. As far as we know, only the cleric can do such a thing.

Shamans, witch doctors, and real physicians are people specialized in healing arts, and they can also use that knowledge to hurt people. But they wouldnt be Shamans, witch doctors, and real physicians if they couldn't heal people. They would be mages, summoners, and rogues.

winner909098

Nerror wrote: »

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Ranger should be "Ranged DeePeeEs".

No! A ranger is not defined as someone using ranged weapons!

A ranger is someone who works on ranges, usually protecting them. There are mountain ranges, forest ranges and rangelands for example. These rangers would typically be called forest rangers or mountain rangers in the first two categories.

Rangers can also work on rangelands, which are are grasslands, shrublands, woodlands, wetlands, and deserts that are grazed by domestic livestock or wild animals. Types of rangelands include tallgrass and shortgrass prairies, desert grasslands and shrublands, woodlands, savannas, chaparrals, steppes, and tundras.

I think this topic about naming rangers merits its own long thread.

To name a couple of famous rangers, we have
1. Strider, aka Aragorn. He's certainly not defined by his ranged weapon usage.

2. We have Walker, Texas ranger. He's using his gun a lot, sure, but what does he do in the first pilot episode of the show? Kicks ass in a bar fight! No ranged weapons.

We also have rangers apprentice. Bows. Bows. More bows. Why are there so many bows?

Khronus

100%.

Khronus

Nerror wrote: »

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Ranger should be "Ranged DeePeeEs".

No! A ranger is not defined as someone using ranged weapons!

A ranger is someone who works on ranges, usually protecting them. There are mountain ranges, forest ranges and rangelands for example. These rangers would typically be called forest rangers or mountain rangers in the first two categories.

Rangers can also work on rangelands, which are are grasslands, shrublands, woodlands, wetlands, and deserts that are grazed by domestic livestock or wild animals. Types of rangelands include tallgrass and shortgrass prairies, desert grasslands and shrublands, woodlands, savannas, chaparrals, steppes, and tundras.

I think this topic about naming rangers merits its own long thread.

To name a couple of famous rangers, we have
1. Strider, aka Aragorn. He's certainly not defined by his ranged weapon usage.

2. We have Walker, Texas ranger. He's using his gun a lot, sure, but what does he do in the first pilot episode of the show? Kicks ass in a bar fight! No ranged weapons.

You make a good point. Let's change the name of ranger to just RANGE. This makes more sense.

maouw

"I'm looking forward to playing healer in

Khronus wrote: »

Nerror wrote: »

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Ranger should be "Ranged DeePeeEs".

No! A ranger is not defined as someone using ranged weapons!

A ranger is someone who works on ranges, usually protecting them. There are mountain ranges, forest ranges and rangelands for example. These rangers would typically be called forest rangers or mountain rangers in the first two categories.

Rangers can also work on rangelands, which are are grasslands, shrublands, woodlands, wetlands, and deserts that are grazed by domestic livestock or wild animals. Types of rangelands include tallgrass and shortgrass prairies, desert grasslands and shrublands, woodlands, savannas, chaparrals, steppes, and tundras.

I think this topic about naming rangers merits its own long thread.

To name a couple of famous rangers, we have
1. Strider, aka Aragorn. He's certainly not defined by his ranged weapon usage.

2. We have Walker, Texas ranger. He's using his gun a lot, sure, but what does he do in the first pilot episode of the show? Kicks ass in a bar fight! No ranged weapons.

You make a good point. Let's change the name of ranger to just RANGE. This makes more sense.

idk. I really like the name "Shooter" or "piew piew"

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