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I guess this whole process and limitation just serves to better highlight your Main vs your Alt(ernative).

The meaning being in the names themselves, I think it stands to reason that all the coolest stuff would be on your main (save for very specific stuff that might fit a different archetype better).

And if at some point you decide to switch main, then you can transfer those onto the new one. I would imagine if that were the case that you wouldn't be switching every day for no reason.

Ramirez

BSkitty wrote: »

Ramirez wrote: »

Gw2 is a fashion war game, that is the endgame, ashes Will have much more to Care then cosmetics

GW2 is not a fashion war game, and it absolutely is not the endgame. You're regurgitating a widely perpetuated misunderstanding/meme of what GW2 is.

Cosmetics matter in any MMO, regardless of its content, and AoC is no exception.

Isn t an meme atleast the people i know still playing are just doing content to get weapon cosmetic x or y, when they get they stop playing or Stay just for social in the guild because there isn't nothing relevant to do, that s the main i stop playing to.... And anyway you Will have alot of cosmetics, maybe stick with One caracter , not every MMORPG are alt friendly

Kat_N7

Ramirez wrote: »

BSkitty wrote: »

Ramirez wrote: »

Gw2 is a fashion war game, that is the endgame, ashes Will have much more to Care then cosmetics

GW2 is not a fashion war game, and it absolutely is not the endgame. You're regurgitating a widely perpetuated misunderstanding/meme of what GW2 is.

Cosmetics matter in any MMO, regardless of its content, and AoC is no exception.

Isn t an meme atleast the people i know still playing are just doing content to get weapon cosmetic x or y, when they get they stop playing or Stay just for social in the guild because there isn't nothing relevant to do, that s the main i stop playing to

As someone who does raids, Fractal CMs, WvW, and arena PvP on a regular basis...your friends are playing GW2 in the most casual way possible. Which is fine, because many people do. There is plenty of content worth doing that's challenging, rewarding, and fun. I don't want to derail this discussion defending GW2 though. Go watch MightyTeapot on YouTube if you want to see the real GW2.

Dygz

ItsFayne wrote: »

What about mounts? What if there is an awesome mount skin I want to use? I have to rotate that through all my characters I play regularly? That feels super bad.

My characters would have different preferences in mounts because... they are all different characters.
Some of what's being nudged is more meaningful RP.
Which may seem unusual to players who just always play themselves with different skins.

Kat_N7

Dygz wrote: »

ItsFayne wrote: »

What about mounts? What if there is an awesome mount skin I want to use? I have to rotate that through all my characters I play regularly? That feels super bad.

All of my characters would have different preferences in mounts because... they are all different characters.
Some of what's being nudged is more meaningful RP.
Which may seem unusual to players who just always play themselves with different skins.

You can still do that without single-use restrictions. It's a personal decision.

Dygz

BSkitty wrote: »

Not only do I disagree with restricting cosmetics to single-use (or time gating your ability to swap them) on principle; as a customer spending $$ to support the game...it fundamentally makes me only want to purchase something when I am 200% sure I will use it. This means Intrepid will get far less from me as a consumer, and potentially everyone like me. If making money is their goal with the in-game store, then this a bad approach. It's taking away the value of the purchase, and not worth buying in my opinion.

Um. Sounds like this is why you don't use 90% of your stuff.
Because you just swap the 10% among all your alts.
This would make me more likely to have unique appearances for my alts - with a decent spread of the cosmetics I own - rather than just have them all look the same as I keep sharing the same items with all of them.

Ramirez

BSkitty wrote: »

Ramirez wrote: »

BSkitty wrote: »

Ramirez wrote: »

Gw2 is a fashion war game, that is the endgame, ashes Will have much more to Care then cosmetics

GW2 is not a fashion war game, and it absolutely is not the endgame. You're regurgitating a widely perpetuated misunderstanding/meme of what GW2 is.

Cosmetics matter in any MMO, regardless of its content, and AoC is no exception.

Isn t an meme atleast the people i know still playing are just doing content to get weapon cosmetic x or y, when they get they stop playing or Stay just for social in the guild because there isn't nothing relevant to do, that s the main i stop playing to

As someone who does raids, Fractal CMs, WvW, and arena PvP on a regular basis...your friends are playing GW2 in the most casual way possible. Which is fine, because many people do. There is plenty of content worth doing that's challenging, rewarding, and fun. I don't want to derail this discussion defending GW2 though. Go watch MightyTeapot on YouTube if you want to see the real GW2.

For pvp they play pvp MMORPG like Albion and Eve, i don't need to see i played for some months, pvp is really bad and pointless, original Guild wars with actually guild wars, was much better

Kat_N7

Dygz wrote: »

BSkitty wrote: »

Not only do I disagree with restricting cosmetics to single-use (or time gating your ability to swap them) on principle; as a customer spending $$ to support the game...it fundamentally makes me only want to purchase something when I am 200% sure I will use it. This means Intrepid will get far less from me as a consumer, and potentially everyone like me. If making money is their goal with the in-game store, then this a bad approach. It's taking away the value of the purchase, and not worth buying in my opinion.

Um. Sounds like this is why you don't use 90% of your stuff.
Because you just swap the 10% among all your alts.
This would make me more likely to have unique appearances for my alts - with a decent spread of the cosmetics I own - rather than just have them all look the same as I keep sharing the same items with all of them.

Again, that's a personal decision. Limiting people to single-use cosmetics will have no impact on you, and my argument from the beginning is that it's an unfair restriction for spending real $$ on an item...regardless of how you choose to use it, feel about it, or don't feel about it.

Dygz

Precisely.
It is your personal decision. And your personal opinion.
You do you.
I'm just trying to better understand why it bothers you.

Plateau

ItsFayne

Ramirez wrote: »

Gw2 is a fashion war game, that is the endgame, ashes Will have much more to Care then cosmetics

bad opinion.

Asgerr

It's funny how people complained about the fact that they didn't want a cash shop and any cosmetics.

As soon as they have been given further proof that the cosmetics:

Aren't supposed to be bought willy nilly
Are restricted to one character
Will likely not be too present in the game because of the previous point

People freak out about wanting all the skins for all the characters.... what??

maouw

Asgerr wrote: »

It's funny how people complained about the fact that they didn't want a cash shop and any cosmetics.

As soon as they have been given further proof that the cosmetics:
Aren't supposed to be bought willy nilly

Are restricted to one character

Will likely not be too present in the game because of the previous point

People freak out about wanting all the skins for all the characters.... what??

Not the same people, different people.
It's too easy to conflate everyone in a crowd into 1 identity.

Biccus

I think limiting paid for cosmetics to 1 character and adding a cooldown for swapping are both terrible ideas. If I decided to buy a cosmetic item. I want to own that item and put it on whatever character I bloody well want to. I did pay for it, after all.

in game cosmetics limited to the character that unlocks them? I'm totally okay with. Weirdly enough.

Nagash

Did we not just have the conversation last week?

Sathrago

I fully support the limitations on cosmetics since I am most likely not even gonna be buying them.

You should already be happy enough that you are allowed to slap down cash to make your character prettier instead of going out and accomplishing something in game to get that pretty cosmetic.

walalaboom

I think most people are misunderstanding this whole issue...

How do we know that having one skin restricted to one character is a worse deal dollar wise than having unrestricted application.

Naturally, if AOC decides to make skins available on multiple characters, the price of those skins will increase versus a skin that is only available to one character. Are we trying to benchmark the pricing of skins against other games now? that doesn't seem reasonable or even possible at this state. We don't even know what constitutes as a fair or unfair price.

That being said, this decision offers more flexibility for players. If you play on one character then just buy 1 skin. If you play multiple characters then just buy 2 skins. Simple as that. Where as, in games where skins can be applied to multiple characters, players who use only 1 character are actually paying a premium on their purchase price (unknowingly). The best analogy is like someone who get super excited on bundle deals/sales, but after they don't even make use of what they bought. Or some bundle sales are not even sales because they are the same price if you bought individually, it is just to make you buy more than what you need.

Tacualeon

Swaftworth wrote: »

Personally, I think limiting PAID cosmetics to 1 character at a time makes little to no sense other than for players to have to spend more money on cosmetics they think look cool.

Exactly. You are on point.
Yet, you are missing the point at the same time.

Game dev is a bussines my friend.

Plateau

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