Vhaeyne wrote: » Welcome to the forums. I regret to inform you that immersion is not the focus of the game. Having fun is. I used to be anti-transmog myself so I understand your concern more than most people will. The fact is that the wheels of transmogs have been in motion for years now with Ashes, and there are more people spinning those wheels in the direction of more transmogs than away from them. Here is what I did to cope in FFXIV/WOW. I found one outfit I liked, and wore that very outfit for years on end. The upside is that when a ugly ass raid tier comes out. I ain't even worried about it. They are just stats to me. It's that or learn to stop worrying and love to play dress up... XD
pgt1027 wrote: » You didn't read my whole post.
pgt1027 wrote: » It's more than just immersion. It's basically a cheat in open world PvP, where being able to see your opponents' armor is an important aspect of sizing them up before deciding to engage in a fight. Cosmetics are fine. Want your armor to have a special be a particular color or to have a unique skin? Go for it. But you shouldn't be able to appear to be wearing a set of armor that you're not actually wearing in a game that is supposed to have open world PvP as a core mechanic.
bloodprophet wrote: » You won't be able to see levels and such unless your in their party.https://ashesofcreation.wiki/PvP Threat assessment Players will have a buff on their nameplate that indicates the gear set they are wearing. Other players will be able to see this buff by targeting that player at a distance.[20][21][22] This will indicate the type of gear (cloth, leather, plate) that they are predominantly wearing.[21] The border will indicate the level and quality of the tier set.[20][21][23] This also indicates if the gear is enchanted.[21][23] The developers believe that inspecting gear to obtain an exact equipment list or gear score may lead to "unwelcome behavior".[24] When you see a player approaching you and they're wearing a transmog you know you don't know if that person is a high damage mitigation against physical damage or against magical damage and essentially the way we overcome that is through you being able to target a player at a distance and they will have a buff that's present on them that you will see, which indicates that essentially the piece set that they are wearing. It is important for players to be able to ascertain from a threat assessment standpoint you know what they're going up against if they're actively checking that and that will be available.[22] – Steven Sharif Being by default able to see a person's "gear score" / equipment list... may cause unwelcome behavior.[24]
pgt1027 wrote: » bloodprophet wrote: » You won't be able to see levels and such unless your in their party.https://ashesofcreation.wiki/PvP Threat assessment Players will have a buff on their nameplate that indicates the gear set they are wearing. Other players will be able to see this buff by targeting that player at a distance.[20][21][22] This will indicate the type of gear (cloth, leather, plate) that they are predominantly wearing.[21] The border will indicate the level and quality of the tier set.[20][21][23] This also indicates if the gear is enchanted.[21][23] The developers believe that inspecting gear to obtain an exact equipment list or gear score may lead to "unwelcome behavior".[24] When you see a player approaching you and they're wearing a transmog you know you don't know if that person is a high damage mitigation against physical damage or against magical damage and essentially the way we overcome that is through you being able to target a player at a distance and they will have a buff that's present on them that you will see, which indicates that essentially the piece set that they are wearing. It is important for players to be able to ascertain from a threat assessment standpoint you know what they're going up against if they're actively checking that and that will be available.[22] – Steven Sharif Being by default able to see a person's "gear score" / equipment list... may cause unwelcome behavior.[24] Oh well. Was fun.
Asgerr wrote: » Do you wanna refund everyone that has bought a cosmetic skin? Didn't think so.
Vhaeyne wrote: » Asgerr wrote: » Do you wanna refund everyone that has bought a cosmetic skin? Didn't think so. Take that point on tour! Starting with this thread:https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/49201/ashes-of-creation-fiery-chaos-freeholds-in-your-grassy-fields#latest
Asgerr wrote: » Do you wanna refund everyone that has bought a cosmetic skin? Didn't think so. Either way, as most have pointed out, there will be ways to assess threats regardless of how they appear to look to you at first. Or you can just take the gamble and have a good story to tell later.
pgt1027 wrote: » You can do cosmetics without transmog. Armor sets are already supposed to have unique cosmetic skins based on the race that's wearing them. The same could be applied to cash shop cosmetics. A unique skin for armor sets that still correlates to a particular piece of gear. But, whatever, it's clear they've already planned to include transmogs to the point that they already have planned work around mechanics for a player's gear not appearing on their character. Alpha isn't even out yet and they're already beginning to compromise the consistency of the game world to hunt whales. What a shame.
Vhaeyne wrote: » pgt1027 wrote: » You can do cosmetics without transmog. Armor sets are already supposed to have unique cosmetic skins based on the race that's wearing them. The same could be applied to cash shop cosmetics. A unique skin for armor sets that still correlates to a particular piece of gear. But, whatever, it's clear they've already planned to include transmogs to the point that they already have planned work around mechanics for a player's gear not appearing on their character. Alpha isn't even out yet and they're already beginning to compromise the consistency of the game world to hunt whales. What a shame. It has been this way since the Kickstarter. There were cosmetics in the Kickstarter. They have sold a cosmetics pack nearly every month since then. What is a shame is that the reality of the game having cosmetics is news to you. If anyone is getting into Ashes at this point and the fact that the game has cosmetics is a deal breaker. They were never really getting into Ashes to begin with.
pgt1027 wrote: » Why is it important to get "into" Ashes? I have no loyalty to any product or brand. Make something I want and I'll buy it, or don't and I won't.
pgt1027 wrote: » Why is it important to get "into" Ashes? I have no loyalty to any product or brand. Make something I want and I'll buy it, or don't and I won't. Already explained how cosmetics could work without the need for going to transmog, a mechanic introduced by Blizzard in the depths of their Cataclysm expansion, but whatever. They can hunt their whales.
