Tavern Wish List

I plan on spending a good amount of time in my own tavern. That being said I figured I would put out a simple "wouldn't it be nice" list. And see if anyone else wanted to throw out an idea or two.

Dim-able lights. I know cosmetics are used to change the look of a tavern but lights change the atmosphere. Lots of lights for a wedding party or low lights for poetry night. I know this is minor but its the little things that give a world life.

Control over voice chat. Having VOIP in taverns is great but I truly hope the tavern owner can mute people that abuse the system.

Family summons to taverns. I know this one has been mentioned other places and I think its a great way to bring people to local taverns. And where does every group start off in a great adventures? That being said it would be horrible if a group couldn't tackle a world boss because there was no tavern near by, so this may not work.

Changeable skins/gender/races for npc bartenders in player run taverns. kinda basic. Maybe custom greetings or messages?

Buying though bartender proxy. It has been said that you can sell things such as prepared food though the tavern NPC. But it would be nice if I could load an amount of gold into them and allow them to buy things from customers such as ingredients for cooking.

Sign/billboard. Be nice to be able to put up a sign on your building with the name of your tavern. Or even rent billboard space to other players.

Music. I know custom play lists are not going to be a thing. I actually prefer that. But 5 or 6 different pub scores from something light and bouncy to celebrate the death of a world boss, to something dark and somber for refugees who just lost their node would be nice.

These are just a few quick ideas. AoC seems to bringing back the importance of community in the MMO genre. And I for one hope taverns play a big role in that.

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Hawkwood

daveywavey wrote: »

HixHaxxen wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

I just want to be able to kick out players I don't want in there. Some kind of Bouncer NPC to make sure the riffraff stay out. And then the ability to set a timer on how long they're not allowed back in.

I don't even think you need the NPC a tavern will still be your freehold maybe you can ban access though that system? I do love the idea of being able to set a timer however. I would abuse it though and I admit it. "What do you mean our node sucks? 10 min ban for you!"

Hehe, with great power comes great responsibility!

You might get lucky and get yourself a tavern in a city, rather than on your own freehold. So, you'd still want some way of controlling the plebs, erm patrons. "YER BARRED, MATE!"

I actually plan to stay away from owning a city tavern. Don't get me wrong they will do the best business I'm sure. But in AoC you have to count on your node being lost at some point. And moving to a new node and getting another freehold seems a lot easier than trying to find another node with a tavern up for sell in the city.

But I do agree taverns in general will need some kind of way of handling trouble makers. But I'll just have to trust that to Steven Sharif, He's basically Elon Musk of MMOs I'm sure he has an idea or two. Haha

Hawkwood

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

these player controlled and owned taverns are a really cool idea.

perhaps a way to advertise the card games, tournaments via the use of themed banners for said events to draw in more patrons

ways to add more personalization to your tavern by said banners, signs out front, town crier with a proximity voice command from a selection of pre-determined commands for said events hosted at the tavern.

All Great ideas, businesses have advertising budgets for a reason. I like the idea of running down the road and seeing a game tournament at a local bar and you just so happen to hold said title in your homeland, so your going to show these Kaelar what it means to play.

Enigmatic Sage

HixHaxxen wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

HixHaxxen wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

I just want to be able to kick out players I don't want in there. Some kind of Bouncer NPC to make sure the riffraff stay out. And then the ability to set a timer on how long they're not allowed back in.

I don't even think you need the NPC a tavern will still be your freehold maybe you can ban access though that system? I do love the idea of being able to set a timer however. I would abuse it though and I admit it. "What do you mean our node sucks? 10 min ban for you!"

Hehe, with great power comes great responsibility!

You might get lucky and get yourself a tavern in a city, rather than on your own freehold. So, you'd still want some way of controlling the plebs, erm patrons. "YER BARRED, MATE!"

I actually plan to stay away from owning a city tavern. Don't get me wrong they will do the best business I'm sure. But in AoC you have to count on your node being lost at some point. And moving to a new node and getting another freehold seems a lot easier than trying to find another node with a tavern up for sell in the city.

But I do agree taverns in general will need some kind of way of handling trouble makers. But I'll just have to trust that to Steven Sharif, He's basically Elon Musk of MMOs I'm sure he has an idea or two. Haha

in a way, having your tavern as more of a proxy could be quite lucrative to adventures of friends and foes a-like!

from non-combatants and combatants a-like looking for a relatively safe place to log at an inn, artisans gathering resources, crafting locations via forges and lumbermills, shrines, prime real-estate for farming near water. There is a lot of potential for success on your own freehold node outside of the city nodes.

plus those very attractive exclusive cosmetics that could lure in the right crowd for a number of reasons

Hawkwood

I have seen a lot of talk about the tavern games in AoC. And I'm a little worried. I'm a big Table top gamer with many hundreds of board games. And I have no idea what kind of games will be in AoC But everyone seems to be picking and asking for games that... wont keep an audience. Now I know Steven is a table top gamer, maybe only pathfinder but still, this gives me hope. So based solely on my board game experience I have made a list of games that I think would work in an online tavern setting. I'm also not suggesting AoC copy or license these particular games or anything, more of a "This kind of game I think would work" list.

Codenames - Basically became an instant classic and with VoIP I see this one being a very easy favorite.

Lost Cities - Great simple 2 player game, Few rules, few components, great risk/reward gameplay.

Resistance/Avalon - Great social deduction game for 5-10 players. Think Among us but with more talking.

Love Letter - Micro game, like 15 cards, 2-4 players, draw a card play a card ruleset. But I cant count the amount of times I have played.

Qwirkle - Dominoes but with colors and shapes super simple super competitive.

Ticket to ride - easy to grasp simple rules, very competitive rewards planning and also has a risk vs reward system.

I could be here all day just listing games to be honest, But common theme, Simple games, More rules doesn't mean more fun.
Few Components, After teaching hundreds of games to thousands of people I have found people wont even learn a game if they think it looks to complicated.
Dex based games..ehh. I know games like Darts are a classic "bar game" but has anyone ever played virtual darts and really enjoyed it? the only exception to this may be a game like Crokinole or "Canadian finger pool" as I call it cuz the names to hard. Feel free to add to the list with games you think would fit.

Hawkwood

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

HixHaxxen wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

HixHaxxen wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

I just want to be able to kick out players I don't want in there. Some kind of Bouncer NPC to make sure the riffraff stay out. And then the ability to set a timer on how long they're not allowed back in.

I don't even think you need the NPC a tavern will still be your freehold maybe you can ban access though that system? I do love the idea of being able to set a timer however. I would abuse it though and I admit it. "What do you mean our node sucks? 10 min ban for you!"

Hehe, with great power comes great responsibility!

You might get lucky and get yourself a tavern in a city, rather than on your own freehold. So, you'd still want some way of controlling the plebs, erm patrons. "YER BARRED, MATE!"

I actually plan to stay away from owning a city tavern. Don't get me wrong they will do the best business I'm sure. But in AoC you have to count on your node being lost at some point. And moving to a new node and getting another freehold seems a lot easier than trying to find another node with a tavern up for sell in the city.

But I do agree taverns in general will need some kind of way of handling trouble makers. But I'll just have to trust that to Steven Sharif, He's basically Elon Musk of MMOs I'm sure he has an idea or two. Haha

in a way, having your tavern as more of a proxy could be quite lucrative to adventures of friends and foes a-like!

from non-combatants and combatants a-like looking for a relatively safe place to log at an inn, artisans gathering resources, crafting locations via forges and lumbermills, shrines, prime real-estate for farming near water. There is a lot of potential for success on your own freehold node outside of the city nodes.

plus those very attractive exclusive cosmetics that could lure in the right crowd for a number of reasons

Very True, was thinking of making a dwarven tavern called "the bedrock" in the mountains just to sell to miners seemed like a great option for a proximity based food buff after all. But in the end I really wanted to go freehold for that "safe harbor" feel outside of a city.

chiefbird

Dogs / cats wandering aimlessly around the tavern. Cat is laying on the counter, dog/cat laying next to the fire.

maouw

HixHaxxen wrote: »

I have seen a lot of talk about the tavern games in AoC. And I'm a little worried. I'm a big Table top gamer with many hundreds of board games. And I have no idea what kind of games will be in AoC But everyone seems to be picking and asking for games that... wont keep an audience. Now I know Steven is a table top gamer, maybe only pathfinder but still, this gives me hope. So based solely on my board game experience I have made a list of games that I think would work in an online tavern setting. I'm also not suggesting AoC copy or license these particular games or anything, more of a "This kind of game I think would work" list.

Codenames - Basically became an instant classic and with VoIP I see this one being a very easy favorite.

Lost Cities - Great simple 2 player game, Few rules, few components, great risk/reward gameplay.

Resistance/Avalon - Great social deduction game for 5-10 players. Think Among us but with more talking.

Love Letter - Micro game, like 15 cards, 2-4 players, draw a card play a card ruleset. But I cant count the amount of times I have played.

Qwirkle - Dominoes but with colors and shapes super simple super competitive.

Ticket to ride - easy to grasp simple rules, very competitive rewards planning and also has a risk vs reward system.

I could be here all day just listing games to be honest, But common theme, Simple games, More rules doesn't mean more fun.
Few Components, After teaching hundreds of games to thousands of people I have found people wont even learn a game if they think it looks to complicated.
Dex based games..ehh. I know games like Darts are a classic "bar game" but has anyone ever played virtual darts and really enjoyed it? the only exception to this may be a game like Crokinole or "Canadian finger pool" as I call it cuz the names to hard. Feel free to add to the list with games you think would fit.

H-Have you been browsing my board game shelf? I swear I locked the doors...
That's a pretty great selection if I do say so myself

I'm pretty sure Steven is cooking up something special for Tavern games with Bacon.
But it's probably top secret, with hints dropped here and there.

Gubiak

Would love to see a liar's dice implemented as a minigame for taverns. Good game for no-good tavern goers.

Hawkwood

Gubiak wrote: »

Would love to see a liar's dice implemented as a minigame for taverns. Good game for no-good tavern goers.

Lost some good friends playing Liar's Dice. lol

shoreless

Hullo. I have nothing to add, I'm just an old MMORPG survivor who will give Ashes all of his money if he can finally run his own tavern properly. Please make it happen!

tautau

We know that taverns serve meals, based on learned recipes, which provide various buffs which are effective in the area near the tavern. Hopefully, higher level ingredients and higher cooking skill will increase those buffs.

But, what if the tavern owner of a lvl 3 establishment had the ability to do negative buffs to customers she doesn't like? Slip them a micky finn which lowers their accuracy for 15 minutes, or stew from bad fish which lowers their run speed for a hour - to mimic giving them the runs?

Nagash

My wish list? Lots of milk

Hawkwood

shoreless wrote: »

Hullo. I have nothing to add, I'm just an old MMORPG survivor who will give Ashes all of his money if he can finally run his own tavern properly. Please make it happen!

Nailed it.

Roussynator

I don't really care about how the tavern end result will be, i'm confident it's going to be a nice ambiance, I think taverns in MMO are always forgotten and when they aren't its just a bunch of peeps standing around and spamming stuff where you can't in the end appreciate the place.

I would like being able to play mini-games with peeps that should be a chill time playing a game of cards, maybe put a ticket or two into the currency stash for the winner .

ShieldMaiden1

How about, as a unique perk for the Bard class, they would be able to be 'hired' for playing music. If there was a space (stage) that only Bards could use, they could take up that spot and provide entertainment and be able to earn tips.

Psynergi

Being able to mute/kick out unwanted people is probably at the top of my list. Aside from that, every tabletop gamer knows that if you want be in the know, ask the barkeep. So maybe a mechanic where your npc barkeeps could sell predetermined information?

Nagash

Psynergi wrote: »

Being able to mute/kick out unwanted people is probably at the top of my list. Aside from that, every tabletop gamer knows that if you want be in the know, ask the barkeep. So maybe a mechanic where your npc barkeeps could sell predetermined information?

sadly we can bar people but there is this

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Bulletin_boards

maouw

Nagash wrote: »

Psynergi wrote: »

Being able to mute/kick out unwanted people is probably at the top of my list. Aside from that, every tabletop gamer knows that if you want be in the know, ask the barkeep. So maybe a mechanic where your npc barkeeps could sell predetermined information?

sadly we can bar people but there is this

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Bulletin_boards

Hmmm, interesting, who would clean bulletin boards?
Tavern owner?

Nagash

maouw wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Psynergi wrote: »

Being able to mute/kick out unwanted people is probably at the top of my list. Aside from that, every tabletop gamer knows that if you want be in the know, ask the barkeep. So maybe a mechanic where your npc barkeeps could sell predetermined information?

sadly we can bar people but there is this

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Bulletin_boards

Hmmm, interesting, who would clean bulletin boards?
Tavern owner?

I would guess so

Blair

No to all of that except for NPC changes. The Bard's passive ability will probably be performing and playing music so no tavern music either.

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