My biggest concern about AoC

So here is the thing.

It's possible that Intrepid is actually doing a good job on that, I just want to express my feeling about my role in a vast mmo world.

I have to admit it. I am not a great player, rather I'm a normal one and I know I will never be one of the bests at least in combat way.

And you know what? I'm ok with that.

I don't want to become the best. But what I want is to be able to have fun at the game anyway. I don't want to be tied to my performance at combat to enjoy the game.

I think it's important that people can enjoy the game even if they are not a top players or combat oriented. And probably this is solved by offering other ways. Like Gathering, Artisan systems, etc.

- So, maybe I want to become a Master Gatherer or something like that who has enough time to explore the world and gather a lot of rare resources. Although I am not great at combat I can still be useful by doing this kind of things. (Here is why is so important to create an entertaining and enjoyable profession systems)

- I also think that by logic, is important to have a strong pyramidal system based on personal skills/achievements and I wanna feel it when I play. I'm totally ok with top players having better sets than mine one. Because if I can "easily" get the same top sets as they, then a hundreds of people can too, and the value of the set goes down. Then there is no meaning to play the game at all. Only the bests must have the best things. There can be a lots of good armors or weapons but is important to keep limited. Where for example only 10 people (like true legends) have the best gear (as we also saw with flying mounts). And so following the pyramid.

- In conclusion I want to be able to be a random man in a vast world and still enjoy that way. I will be satisfied beeing a second-rate soldier. I want to feel that only a few are the bests (not the majority) in their path.

Progression systems seem quite interesting until now so I hope that my player profile could be matched for.

How do you feel and what is Intrepid doing about it? What do you want to be in Verra?

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Khronus

@Gimlog I'm confused by your logic. Having played in the Alpha, with the current system, everything I stated before is accurate. Losing 50% of what you currently have farmed is not an option. You gain nothing by not fighting back. I can kill you, take half your gathered materials and then go farm somewhere for a couple minutes to remove the "red". If I am roaming with a group and we are killing everyone, we will be purple and will have to grind for longer to remove the purple....but we will still be protected. The world is large enough to simply go hide somewhere and farm mobs in a corner.

PvP will heavily influence this game and anyone who chooses not to pvp will most certainly be delayed (by A LOT) in what they are ultimately trying to accomplish.

Ragecon

This game is made for that play style. You can gather and help your node, get some risk free pvp when the node needs defending against attacks maybe you make some random friends In Town and you take adventures together just to explore

Gimlog

@Khronus ofc my logic don't work in the pre Alpha you tested , it was set to keep you busy while testing server performance.

In the test you had 50% drop of you gatherable , and ofc with such a lose you don't look your attacker in the eyes and wait to die.
At launch, I personally think that it will be max 25% for green , because red have four time the penalties of them. And if we agree that more than 100% will not be a think ofc.
It may even be lower that 25% because 100% is a bit hard on red.
Now if you do agree with those numbers.
You will agree that the difference between fighting back or not , is 12,5% of your gatherables at most ?
Can you not imagine your self in a situation where you'll be ready to sacrifice those 12,5% to see if your opponent is really willing to be corrupted for them ?

Being red is not planning to be easy to get rid of. It may have been in the test , but shouldn't be at launch.

You say :"If I am roaming with a group and we are killing everyone, we will be purple and will have to grind for longer to remove the purple....but we will still be protected."
But it doesn't make sense to me ...
Where did you heard that being in a group protect you of being red ??? If no one fight you back , your whole group will be corrected ...
And it the first time that I heard that the purple stat must be grind out. To me it a stat that you get out after not being in PvP for a certain time.

McMackMuck

The corruption system wasn't fully in place for the recent Alpha testing, which is why Steven had to ask certain players to stop being "murder Hobos". I believe that the final implementation of the corruption system will make it not worth ganking a green for mundane gatherables, as a general statement. We will find out in Beta.
https://www.ashes101.com/pvp#corruption

Good post @raylegh , a lot of what you said resonated with me and others. I have zero concerns for you in Ashes. You can communicate well, so maintaining a level of association with a Guild and other in-game social groups, at a distance that you feel comfortable with, won't be an issue for you.

The players who I expect will struggle with Ashes are those that normally rely on a p2w credit card to back up their Ego problems.

RocketFarmer

As long as everyone understands how it works when Intrepid dials in everything then it’s just part of the game. To expect you won’t get ganked is probably unreasonable. To fight back and expect you won’t get ganked more, is just not understanding the system, and in that instance it’s just PVP.

I do think the penalties for fighting back or not fighting back should be the same, but I understand why they are not.

I think the courteous thing would be for players who like to PVP to turn on the PVP flag even while they are farming. But I guess part of that equation is how big the advantage is for someone to have a jump on you in combat. I would hope that the combat system involves more player skill, which can offset such disadvantages.

Conrad

I just hope that, if someone attacks you for whatever reason, and YOU kill them, that you don't turn red. You shouldn't turn into a red player just because you defended yourself. I find that stupid af

Ferni

Conrad wrote: »

I just hope that, if someone attacks you for whatever reason, and YOU kill them, that you don't turn red. You shouldn't turn into a red player just because you defended yourself. I find that stupid af

You are not going to turn red defending yourself. If someone attack you (and you are green) he will turn purple. If you fight back you will turn purple too. A purple who kill another purple doesn't turn red.

You turn red when you kill a green player and a green player is the one who does not fight back.

Nagash

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George_Black

Conrad wrote: »

I just hope that, if someone attacks you for whatever reason, and YOU kill them, that you don't turn red. You shouldn't turn into a red player just because you defended yourself. I find that stupid af

What?

Conrad

Ferni wrote: »

Conrad wrote: »

I just hope that, if someone attacks you for whatever reason, and YOU kill them, that you don't turn red. You shouldn't turn into a red player just because you defended yourself. I find that stupid af

You are not going to turn red defending yourself. If someone attack you (and you are green) he will turn purple. If you fight back you will turn purple too. A purple who kill another purple doesn't turn red.

You turn red when you kill a green player and a green player is the one who does not fight back.

Ah my bad, I misunderstood the flagging a bit xD

Zarn

I think that's the best thing about this game, there are so many activities to do that you literally can play however you want to.

akabear

I hope there is a good amount to do via the Companion app that there was mention of to fill a few min here and there for times when not able to get to a pc.

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