New Gambling Feature

As a former blackjack dealer, I would love to be able to deal blackjack inside a tavern to my buzzed costumers.

Tired from swinging your swords and casting your fire balls through the newly discovered dungeon? Come stop by the Tavern and sit at my blackjack table! After a few drinks and money sinks, go back to swinging your swords and casting your fireballs to get your coin back!

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Samson wrote: »

Aren't you gambling when it comes to pretty much everything you do in life... For example, when you decide to get in your car to drive somewhere with the possibility of crashing/dying, when you pay for a movie in hopes that it will be good, when you try a new food at a restaurant for the first time...

The whole argument about gambling shouldn't be in the game because "people can get addicted" or "people will spend more time gambling than actually playing the game" ...so what? It's a cool aspect to have in a fantasy game like this. Just because some people have poor self control doesn't mean the whole idea needs to be scrapped for everyone else.

Well Said. (Slow golf clap)

Atama

Samson wrote: »

Aren't you gambling when it comes to pretty much everything you do in life... For example, when you decide to get in your car to drive somewhere with the possibility of crashing/dying, when you pay for a movie in hopes that it will be good, when you try a new food at a restaurant for the first time...

The whole argument about gambling shouldn't be in the game because "people can get addicted" or "people will spend more time gambling than actually playing the game" ...so what? It's a cool aspect to have in a fantasy game like this. Just because some people have poor self control doesn't mean the whole idea needs to be scrapped for everyone else.

I’m sure business owners in Vegas tried to pull off that kind of argument to the Nevada Gaming Commission. I doubt it worked.

ParadoxPK

With them stating there will be card and dice games I wonder if a non-npc can host things like this. Live out your dreams as a dealer for all those wondering adventures with to much gold in their pockets.

Samson1

Atama wrote: »

Samson wrote: »

Aren't you gambling when it comes to pretty much everything you do in life... For example, when you decide to get in your car to drive somewhere with the possibility of crashing/dying, when you pay for a movie in hopes that it will be good, when you try a new food at a restaurant for the first time...

The whole argument about gambling shouldn't be in the game because "people can get addicted" or "people will spend more time gambling than actually playing the game" ...so what? It's a cool aspect to have in a fantasy game like this. Just because some people have poor self control doesn't mean the whole idea needs to be scrapped for everyone else.

I’m sure business owners in Vegas tried to pull off that kind of argument to the Nevada Gaming Commission. I doubt it worked.

Atama

ParadoxPK wrote: »

With them stating there will be card and dice games I wonder if a non-npc can host things like this. Live out your dreams as a dealer for all those wondering adventures with to much gold in their pockets.

That was what I was saying earlier. Let players make up their own rules and regulate it. If people cheat, then players will retaliate. I love that in a game like Ashes that has open PvP and player governments making rules that we have agency to do that kind of thing. I see a lot of potential in the community being stronger in this game than in most MMOs.

DTP Brando

rodzor wrote: »

Gambling should definitely be in the game, if you've watched any unofficial gambling in WoW (Asmongold Death Rolling) it is very entertaining.

Gambling should defiantly be in the game 100%, even if it's small.

xVenngeance

You smudge the thick glop of mud off your shoulder pad. Staggering to the city's innards, your right leg, paralyzed from the tendrils of that monster. Even thinking of that...THING, makes your heart pound like the thunder of the nights storm, blood sizzling like the patter of the misshapen rooftop tiles. Your entire party died that day and you wish you could just get some... *Knock Knock* "Come on in!" Boasts a gleeful tavern keep "Welcome to the IronHorse Tavern, have yourself an' Ale. The smell of freshly baked bread, cheeses, and roasts filled the air, bards were playing, the men and women told jokes laughing, whispers of untold adventures awaiting and adventurer's trying their luck at local games. Perhaps you should try, your hand at the games, you have an unsullied reputation after all.

For any player, gambling is a chance to get something more, new or rare for a small price, or lose it all.Its exciting, fun, and punishing at times, just like video games. Its fitting for a world that fills of fantasy. And yes there is always concerns for how it would be implemented. If the concern is , addiction, then why sell alcohol. video games, MMOs especially are addictive. More importantly I would rather lose virtual money than real money. unless of course, you paid for that virtual money.

Look to how other video games have implemented it, for example Diablo III and FFXIV uses a specific currency, in this case it could be tavern currency. For the occupying guild tavern currency could be used in different ways than the visiting people. currency could be obtained from tavern specific quests etc. With the rise GTA RP on youtube, the casino is always entertaining for both players and viewers. Now I'm not saying to go full out casino mode, I just support gambling in games, as long as its worth it. If not an immediate feature, it would still make a good feature for future DLC.

I know this was posted about a year ago but I thought its worth the discussion. Any thoughts, comments , additions?

Vhaeyne

There was a WOW addon years ago that let you play poker. We would go to the same tavern after raid nights to play a few hands for repair money. It was a cool way to hang out after raids. The guild would otherwise raid log so it gave us something to do that was exciting, but also low effort. Would not mind seeing something like this as a tavern game. Beats death rolling.

tautau

One could still deal blackjack in a tavern...just use physical cards at home and tell the player(s) what you dealt them, and that they should trust you. Let them win at first...

Grihm

Kybub wrote: »

As a former blackjack dealer, I would love to be able to deal blackjack inside a tavern to my buzzed costumers.

Tired from swinging your swords and casting your fire balls through the newly discovered dungeon? Come stop by the Tavern and sit at my blackjack table! After a few drinks and money sinks, go back to swinging your swords and casting your fireballs to get your coin back!

As long as there are no real world money involved, have fun.
Clarification. Cards, dices, chess and the sorts. No slot machines or weird modern day Vegas doohickeys.

tautau

I would enjoy blackjack as one of the tavern table games. Perhaps the 'house tavern' would have some slight variability of options on the house rules, such as blackjack paying 2:1 or 3:2 to make the game different in different taverns and encourage travel.

I would also like slot machines. Again, allowing the 'house tavern' to vary the payout, perhaps setting the payout average anywhere from 75% - 95% of the amount bet over time.

In Commercial Nodes you might allow the 'house tavern' to be even more greedy, to mimic places like Vegas.

JustVine

rutheree wrote: »

I love gambling, but I used to gamble on only one gambling site.
Since I have some experience in this field, I'd like to share a few recommendations on how to succeed at gambling, but first, let me recommend a gambling site. If you want to try gambling for bitcoins, check it out: http://lambo2btc.com/stellarcasino.
Now, as you know an excellent gambling site, make sure you follow these rules:
- you shouldn't consider gambling as a business; it is just a game.
- choose the gambling site where you can get free sign-up bonuses.
- if you don't enjoy the process, then you should give up gambling.

This is the number 1 reason to separate tavern games in ashes from irl gambling as much as possible. Not only would it be less immersive, there are a number of ways it can negatively effect users with vulnerable psycology. That isn't really the problem either though. This person leading them elsewhere is.

Its an easily mitigated problem if you just make giving websites in game difficult (probably already planned) and make the tavern games as Verra feeling as possible to lower the chances of it 'building confidence in gambling ability' or triggering the addictive psychology modern faces are designed to amplify and exploit. This obviously doesn't solve or make the situation impossible. The point is they would be good faith measures to detter most situations from developing into a real problem down the road.

All mildly irrelevant of course as I am pretty sure Stephen is too much of a nerd to not want his own fantasy tavern games being the star of the show tavern game wise given the recent q&a.

Noaani

rutheree wrote: »

I love gambling, but I used to gamble on only one gambling site.
Since I have some experience in this field, I'd like to share a few recommendations on how to succeed at gambling, but first, let me recommend a gambling site. If you want to try gambling for bitcoins, check it out:

This post kind of reads like an add for the linked website.

McShave

Poker and Blackjack are fun games. There should be a way to protect yourself legally while having these card games in the video game, like Red Dead Redemption 2, which has multiplayer poker with other people in an online game world. As long as it's fake money that you cannot purchase with real money in the game, give a warning about gambling addiction and the harmful effects, and it should be fine. Personal request here, but i would like to see a gambling table immersive in the game's world, and make sure that the kiddies who will inevitability play this game, understand what they are about to partake in when joining it.

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