How much of an impact would you like real world holidays/events to have in Verra?

We already know that there will be real world cultural references but I'm curious as to how far you guys would like to see that go?

Do you want them to remain as little Easter Eggs like the Eleanor?

Or full on, realm-wide, holidays like WoW's Winter Veil?

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George_Black

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It's silly to watch people go around in santa hats, decorating with trees and snowmen.

Maezriel

George Black wrote: »

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It's silly to watch people go around in santa hats, decorating with trees and snowmen.

Doesn't necessarily have to be Santa hats, but we could see a Verran style Christmas that's thrown every year w/ it's own unique twists.

JustVine

Video game events are one of my primary ways of feeling festive. I prefer when a world has their own events/holidays/traditions, but correlated to the holiday schedule's of irl. I am less interested in character artifacts from real world holidays (santa, elves, rabbits, cupids, etc), but things like decorated trees, snow, lights, festive music, candles, candy/festive food, and even color schemes blue/white, red/green, orange/black etc are all quite welcome and encouraged.

There are really easy ways to put your spin on thematics to make it feel like Verra. Free example IS can take. Xmas is instead The Birth From Ashes. A week long celebration of life's cycle of death and rebirth. Each day represents a different part of the journey of a flame The Monday of wicks, the Tuesday of oils, the Wednesday of flames, the Thursday of wax, the Friday of smoke, the Saturday of darkness and ash, and the Sunday of rebirth. The days and length are less important than the theme. Its all about making a metaphor represent something important to the world build and making it festive. I would love to see this in December or even xmas plus new years time frame since it does a good job of both holidays.

Even more cool would be having the different religions trading their own holidays and takes on the different seasonal holidays. We don't know anything about the religions as far as I know but it'd be cool if there was like, chasing a phoenix festival for the temple of the phoenix, and a harvest bounty led by the temple of prosperity or w/e.

Maezriel

JustVine wrote: »

Video game events are one of my primary ways of feeling festive. I prefer when a world has their own events/holidays/traditions, but correlated to the holiday schedule's of irl. I am less interested in character artifacts from real world holidays (santa, elves, rabbits, cupids, etc), but things like decorated trees, snow, lights, destive music, candles, candy/festive food, and even color schemes blue/white, red/green, orange/black etc are all quite welcome and encouraged.

There are really easy ways to put your spin on thematics to make it feel like Verra. Free example IS can take. Xmas is instead The Birth From Ashes. A week long celebration of life's cycle of death and rebirth. Each day represents a different part of the journey of a flame The Monday of wicks, the Tuesday of oils, the Wednesday of flames, the Thursday of wax, the Friday of smoke, the Saturday of darkness and ash, and the Sunday of rebirth. The days and length are less important than the theme. Its all about making a metaphor represent something important to the world build and making it festive. I would love to see this in December or even xmas plus new years time frame since it does a good job of both holidays.

Even more cool would be having the different religions trading their own holidays and takes on the different seasonal holidays. We don't know anything about the religions as far as I know but itd be cool if there was like, chasing a phoenix festival for the temple of the phoenix, and a harvest bounty led by the temple of prosperity or w/e.

A rebirthing festival is an incredible idea. My initial thought was maybe having it around the Summer Solstice. Could easily hold it at different times for different realms so those in the Southern Hemisphere aren't celebrating it at the wrong time.

Vhaeyne

None,

I would prefer the effort be used for almost anything else that is productive.

Bah humbug!

Maezriel

Vhaeyne wrote: »

None,

I would prefer the effort be used for almost anything else that is productive.

Bah humbug!

Obviously you and I are very aware of each other's stances on roleplay elements, but you can't deny that something like seasonal (re: holiday) events could be used for interesting mechanical things. For example, maybe a specific weapon/armor can only be made during a time when the stars align or the mating cycle for a unique Animal Husbandry mount/pet is only during a specific week of the year.

Obviously I'd expect rare bosses/mobs as well...or even take existing bosses and perhaps the time of year changes their abilities so they're suddenly more unpredictable in a fight.

No reason we for holidays to be solely for roleplayer purposes

Kalv1441

I think a custom version of the holidays within the world of Verra would be a cool idea. It allows you to be festive but makes it unique within the game itself.

I agree that having Santa hats kind of breaks the immersion

Dygz

Problem with "real world" holidays in MMORPGs is that it's usually restricted to (white) European-American holidays.
I would prefer to see each culture and god within Verra have their own holidays.

Maezriel

Dygz wrote: »

Problem with "real world" holidays in MMORPGs is that it's usually restricted to (white) European-American holidays.
I would prefer to see each culture and god within Verra have their own holidays.

I think adding some race specific holidays could add some depth to their lore for sure. I do agree that it's a shame holidays are usually restricted to American ones I'd like to see Intrepid try to branch out as it'd be an excellent bridge to learning about some other people's traditions

JustVine

Dygz wrote: »

Problem with "real world" holidays in MMORPGs is that it's usually restricted to (white) European-American holidays.
I would prefer to see each culture and god within Verra have their own holidays.

I would totally be on board for in game holidays to draw inspiration from many nonchristian. Timing of the events on the other hand... Non-christian holidays tend to be on a lunar calendar (obviously there are exceptions but still.) While this translates perfectly fine to a fantasy world, realistically most people use the gregorian calendar these days (at least in business) and festive 'seasons' tend to conglomerate up those time periods, (again due to globalist business.)

I will repeat I would very much like mostly in game lore holidays/festivities, but the time frames I would much rather be consistent and line up with admittedly western centric timings for core religion driven holidays.

Racial holidays on the other hand, it would be extremely cool to have holidays based on the holidays of the cultures they draw their architectural cultural inspirations from, roaming holidays be damned.

Tyranthraxus

Maezriel wrote: »

We already know that there will be real world cultural references but I'm curious as to how far you guys would like to see that go?

Do you want them to remain as little Easter Eggs like the Eleanor?

Or full on, realm-wide, holidays like WoW's Winter Veil?

Yours truly doesn't mind a couple of seasonally-available quests and rewards.

I just don't like them being around for a whole month and becoming anything paramount.

maouw

I really enjoy server wide festivities - moments when you loiter and make new friends, creates a sense of unity across the server (good vibes).

It's something unique to MMO's that lobby games can't quite capture.

RocketFarmer

Allow the mechanism for nodes to establish their own holidays and reason for festivities. Applying real world holidays is not something I would want.

Khronus

I absolutely hate real world holidays being added to games. It's lazy design when the developers can use the lore to create their own holidays or events, it forces people to feel they need to log into the game on important days that should be spent at home with family (if they want to collect all of the things offered on holidays), and the holidays are just played out at this point. Santa costumes, easter eggs, halloween treats....it's just annoying.

Vhaeyne

Maezriel wrote: »

Vhaeyne wrote: »

None,

I would prefer the effort be used for almost anything else that is productive.

Bah humbug!

Obviously you and I are very aware of each other's stances on roleplay elements, but you can't deny that something like seasonal (re: holiday) events could be used for interesting mechanical things. For example, maybe a specific weapon/armor can only be made during a time when the stars align or the mating cycle for a unique Animal Husbandry mount/pet is only during a specific week of the year.

Obviously I'd expect rare bosses/mobs as well...or even take existing bosses and perhaps the time of year changes their abilities so they're suddenly more unpredictable in a fight.

No reason we for holidays to be solely for roleplayer purposes

Yes,

It is not about role-play this time. I just prefer when live games don't do holidays. If they want to mark the passage of seasons every week or whatever in Ashes, that is fine to me as a game mechanic.

If I have see a bunch of Christmas stuff every December and get guilted into doing the content by disproportionately good rewards for the effort. I would rather we just did not go down that path.
I have played a lot of MMORPGs and never once thought the holiday event was a good trade off for potential bug or exploit fixes.

You asked how much of this stuff we would want. For me, the answer is just none.

CriminalCupcake

George Black wrote: »

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It's silly to watch people go around in santa hats, decorating with trees and snowmen.

Debby downer poopin on Santa's cookies...

Noaani

I'm not a fan of things like this at all.

Look at the timing it would have in Ashes. An event that is yearly for us would happen every 13 years in game. Even from an RP perspective, it just makes no sense.

I'm fine if Intrepid decide to add in Verra specific holidays - things that would come around every 4 weeks our time. That's fine, it will get enough repeat use to be of worth.

Maezriel

Noaani wrote: »

I'm not a fan of things like this at all.

Look at the timing it would have in Ashes. An event that is yearly for us would happen every 13 years in game. Even from an RP perspective, it just makes no sense.

I'm fine if Intrepid decide to add in Verra specific holidays - things that would come around every 4 weeks our time. That's fine, it will get enough repeat use to be of worth.

I think that would come down to how Intrepid explains the lore behind the seasons.

Seasons aren't necessarily related to the speed of which we travel around Verra's sun. Maybe Verra just has a really wonky axis tilt? Or maybe there's a dietic reason for the constantly shifting weathers?

Rem_

I think it would be nice to have holiday seasons. Of course only if they can manage to fit it in, but the festive or holiday feeling in game is really special. It adds a lot of roleplay elements too, like being able to get together for a christmas dinner in a voice chat, and hop into a decorated inn inside of Verra with your guild. It's things like that that really add to a game, but of course aren't NEEDED. You can create lots of good memories like that and I think it would be very nice, and of course it doesn't have to be strictly exactly like real life..

tautau

If they include real world holidays, I agree with the poster above that they should not be restricted to North American holidays. Just this last Wednesday I threw a Bloomsday party -that's an Irish holiday that celebrates literature- and went through almost a case of prosecco, as well as other drinks. Costumes for everyone, of course.

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