Thoughts on Steam Deck?

So while not directly related to Ashe's I was wondering what the community's initial thoughts were on the Steam Deck announcement today. Honestly, my first reaction was that it seems like a dumb idea. But the more I read and watched on it... seemed kinda cool, considering the potential it has.

Definitely got me thinking about how dope it would be if I could play Ashe's on it during trips or whatever (mouse, keyboard, monitor, docking station etc. can all be used with it). Not super versed with hardware when it comes to PCs, but some comments online are making it sound like it can handle other MMOs currently out there. And who knows, maybe Ashe's will have decent controller support, though I'd definitely prefer mouse and keyboard.

Any strong thoughts?

https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9eihvhM_KE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLtiRGTZvGM

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bigepeen wrote: »

Aerlana wrote: »

Also, it is a linux (steamOS) using proton. but some anticheat program are not linux-friendly. This could be the limit for AoC (i don't know what the devs will use)

You better hope for a Linux port then. I don't know for sure, but I don't think Steven has said anything on the subject. Typically multiplayer games are difficult to run on Linux through proton specifically because of anti-cheat, as you mentioned.

It would be nice to see Linux compatibility, but we shall see.

For now there are no ports planned. It has been stated in the past that the game is developed in such a way that ports should be possible, as the code is designed to be cross-platform compatible. But no support for Mac, Linux, or any console has been announced or planned.

Here's a link to an old discussion on one of the nuked discussion boards from days of yore:

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/38748/is-there-going-to-be-a-mac-version

(By the way, how ironic is it that Intrepid keeps deleting the forums in a sort of digital apocalypse and making us go to new ones like refugees in a strange new land?)

ariatras

You can support Linux without supporting Linux.

WoW doesn't support Linux, for example. Not officially. What that means is technical problems regarding the game won't be helped with. Blizzard does however, make sure their in-house anti-cheat doesn't flag Wine/Proton. Allowing Linux users to play the game.

FFXIV works similarly.

It's specific anti-cheat software that is the culprit. Easy Anti-Cheat and Battle-Eye. And considering Intrepid is going to make their own anti-cheat. They can with very very minimal work, ensure wine/proton doesn't give a false positive. Which is actually what I've asked for a few times, in both the old forums, and the new ones.

Aerlana

bigepeen wrote: »

It would be nice to see Linux compatibility, but we shall see.

As said by ariatras. The only problem is EAC and Battle-eye (didnt know for it, thank you @ariatras )

You can play ANY game with proton (or wine, but for steamdeck, will be with proton) if the game doesn't use EAC/BE

i already tried it with different game and never had any problem...

This is why steamdeck can run linux also (because we are far from all steam games having an officiel linux support).

So just
1) having other anticheat than those two
2) a good enough controller support

ariatras

Linux has better controller support than Windows most of the time. @Aerlana

Noaani

If someone really wanted to run a game that uses EAC on a Steam Deck, they always have the option of installing windows on it...

ariatras

Noaani wrote: »

If someone really wanted to run a game that uses EAC on a Steam Deck, they always have the option of installing windows on it...

Bit late, but I'm not all that active. But, why would anyone in their right mind want to install windows on the handheld? Windows isn't at all optimised for the input, to not even mention the stupid amount of bloatware.

Besides, six clicks with the mouse is all it takes to enable support for Proton/Wine. No development time needed, no official support needed, there is no cost associated with it, except for the minute or two it might take to enable it in EAC's dev portal.

Vhaeyne

ariatras wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

If someone really wanted to run a game that uses EAC on a Steam Deck, they always have the option of installing windows on it...

Bit late, but I'm not all that active. But, why would anyone in their right mind want to install windows on the handheld? Windows isn't at all optimised for the input, to not even mention the stupid amount of bloatware.

Besides, six clicks with the mouse is all it takes to enable support for Proton/Wine. No development time needed, no official support needed, there is no cost associated with it, except for the minute or two it might take to enable it in EAC's dev portal.

Six clicks and three esoteric commands typed into terminal...

I jest, I actually really like linux and have high optimism that the steam deck will make linux support more common.

With any luck, a few years from now, photon support will be so powerful I will never have to run windows again.

Noaani

ariatras wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

If someone really wanted to run a game that uses EAC on a Steam Deck, they always have the option of installing windows on it...

Bit late, but I'm not all that active. But, why would anyone in their right mind want to install windows on the handheld? Windows isn't at all optimised for the input, to not even mention the stupid amount of bloatware.

Besides, six clicks with the mouse is all it takes to enable support for Proton/Wine. No development time needed, no official support needed, there is no cost associated with it, except for the minute or two it might take to enable it in EAC's dev portal.

This thread - and the post you quoted - are from before Epic officially supported Linux with EAC.

When this thread was active, attempting to get games using EAC to run reliably in Linux was non-trivial. Since people are not going to buy a hand held computer to tinker with getting it to work (pre-support), that is why someone may have wanted to run Windows on one.

If someone wanted to tinker with it, they would do so on a desktop. If someone is buying a handheld, they just want it to play games.

Now that these reasons have changed, it is obviously less beneficial to do so.

TriggerTec

ariatras wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

If someone really wanted to run a game that uses EAC on a Steam Deck, they always have the option of installing windows on it...

Bit late, but I'm not all that active. But, why would anyone in their right mind want to install windows on the handheld? Windows isn't at all optimised for the input, to not even mention the stupid amount of bloatware.

Besides, six clicks with the mouse is all it takes to enable support for Proton/Wine. No development time needed, no official support needed, there is no cost associated with it, except for the minute or two it might take to enable it in EAC's dev portal.

You, sir/madam, stand guilty of Post Necromancy!

Lmao this thread is old. But good to see @Noaani bringing up valid points regarding EAC. Cant wait til i get my steam deck lol.

ariatras

TheBlazedAce wrote: »

ariatras wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

If someone really wanted to run a game that uses EAC on a Steam Deck, they always have the option of installing windows on it...

Bit late, but I'm not all that active. But, why would anyone in their right mind want to install windows on the handheld? Windows isn't at all optimised for the input, to not even mention the stupid amount of bloatware.

Besides, six clicks with the mouse is all it takes to enable support for Proton/Wine. No development time needed, no official support needed, there is no cost associated with it, except for the minute or two it might take to enable it in EAC's dev portal.

You, sir/madam, stand guilty of Post Necromancy!

Lmao this thread is old. But good to see @Noaani bringing up valid points regarding EAC. Cant wait til i get my steam deck lol.

I stand accused, but as the poster above you pointed out. New information has come to light. Which reminded me of this here thread.

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