A public roadmap?

Are there any plans to bring out any public roadmaps similar to rust's roadmap, Where people can get a decent idea of where the game is currently in development and what stuff is being currently worked on. Maybe link it to your websites FAQ page so new comers who don't scour the wiki and stalk through our glorious lord steven's every single move on discord, every single dev diary or the various interview he's done, for even the smallest amount of information. For example there was little to no information about the combat revamp and split body animations and when they are gonna be implemented before I came across this

Like all the question regarding development can simply be pointed towards a roadmap and you can be flexible with it.
Steven and the team are already very transparent with their progress and simply putting all that on a simple publicly available and endorsed roadmap will be a god send

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Noaani

Rust is very much in a state of post-release content additions. It is also a survival game as opposed to an MMORPG.

This is a much, much slower speed of development than a full MMORPG in actual construction.

The closest thing to a roadmap you will get now is;

What are we working on: literally everything.
When will it be done: when it's ready.

KhaosTheEmpty

Noaani wrote: »

Rust is very much in a state of post-release content additions. It is also a survival game as opposed to an MMORPG.

This is a much, much slower speed of development than a full MMORPG in actual construction.

The closest thing to a roadmap you will get now is;

What are we working on: literally everything.
When will it be done: when it's ready.

I mean for the alpha schedule we have next to no idea when the promised content is gonna get slowly released like the combat revamp, or the other 2 classes summoner and fighter, the augments and ships.

Atama

WinnieV12 wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Rust is very much in a state of post-release content additions. It is also a survival game as opposed to an MMORPG.

This is a much, much slower speed of development than a full MMORPG in actual construction.

The closest thing to a roadmap you will get now is;

What are we working on: literally everything.
When will it be done: when it's ready.

I mean for the alpha schedule we have next to no idea when the promised content is gonna get slowly released like the combat revamp, or the other 2 classes summoner and fighter, the augments and ships.

I suspect that Intrepid doesn’t have a firm idea either, or it’s too dependent on too many smaller milestones being met along the way to make a reliable prediction.

We had a number of things scheduled that got pushed back (for YEARS) due to unforeseen circumstances (like server instability and a need to change game engines, oh and Covid) and I think they learned their lesson about making too many prognostications.

I expect it’ll be at least a year before we see anything more specific than the vague testing schedule we have now. (And even that has gone through recent changes.)

Noaani

WinnieV12 wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Rust is very much in a state of post-release content additions. It is also a survival game as opposed to an MMORPG.

This is a much, much slower speed of development than a full MMORPG in actual construction.

The closest thing to a roadmap you will get now is;

What are we working on: literally everything.
When will it be done: when it's ready.

I mean for the alpha schedule we have next to no idea when the promised content is gonna get slowly released like the combat revamp, or the other 2 classes summoner and fighter, the augments and ships.

Games with roadmaps that developers give are usually just things that are already done. They dont like to talk about things that are in actual development.

If they did, Rust would be telling you what they had planned for next year, not for next week - as that is how far ahead they would have planned.

Again, Ashes had the whole game in development, not just a few small pieces like Rust. This doesnt just mean making a few abilities for classes, it means creating the mechanics that those abilities are going to use.

Fairtale

I would also like to see a roadmap:
- what is currently in development;
- what is planned for the future
- what is confirmed, but not planned yet

Would be amazing to know 100% that no cash-shops are being added, for example.

Aerlana

mr n0body wrote: »

Would be amazing to know 100% that no cash-shops are being added, for example.

We 100% know there will be cosmetic cash shop. (and yes, i dislike it, but i think, now, cash shop are the basis for all MMORPG... instead of seeing subscription follow inflation)

to know what is confirmed, roam the wiki. you will get most information

Noaani

mr n0body wrote: »

I would also like to see a roadmap:
- what is currently in development;
- what is planned for the future
- what is confirmed, but not planned yet

Would be amazing to know 100% that no cash-shops are being added, for example.

Again, they can't really do this while the core game is still in development.

A roadmap works for games where the core game is functionally complete, and the developers can then pick and chose individual things to work on.

If Intrepid were to list the things that they are currently working on, that list would be several hundred entries.

It would be an actual full time job to maintain it - and that is not even considering the vitriol that heads Intrepids way when things don't go according to the plan (which they have had happen in the past, which is why they no longer even give estimated times for major things like alpha tests).

Fairtale

Star Citizen Roadmap, of a game in development.

And I don't think the thread here is expecting that same amount of detail. A broad roadmap, so players know what to expect in which quarter of the year would be more than enough. We don't need 10% of the detail or complexity that the star citizen one displays to its players.

Fairtale

Aerlana wrote: »

mr n0body wrote: »

Would be amazing to know 100% that no cash-shops are being added, for example.

We 100% know there will be cosmetic cash shop. (and yes, i dislike it, but i think, now, cash shop are the basis for all MMORPG... instead of seeing subscription follow inflation)

to know what is confirmed, roam the wiki. you will get most information

ah yeah, that's all fine, I meant things like lvl boosts, gold buying, and other forms of gaining advantages (even if indirect) over other players.

but hearing that from you means nothing to me, hence the roadmap

Dygz

Public roadmaps are rarely, if ever, good for the developer.
Gamers consider dates to be promises and vilify the devs for any missed date.

CriminalCupcake

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule

Did everyone forget about this? This is about the best roadmap we're gonna get.
Edit: Also, does anyone remember what happened with Valheim's Roadmap? STILL Waiting on our Quarter 1 Hearth and Home update..... Roadmaps give misinterpretations and letdowns happen too easily.

CROW3

mr n0body wrote: »

ah yeah, that's all fine, I meant things like lvl boosts, gold buying, and other forms of gaining advantages (even if indirect) over other players.

but hearing that from you means nothing to me, hence the roadmap

All of this information is out there, which indicates you haven't searched for it. I suggest reading what's available on the wiki before demanding Intrepid spoon feed you.

Noaani

mr n0body wrote: »

Star Citizen Roadmap, of a game in development.

Maybe if they put the effort in to the game instead of that roadmap, they would have something to show for it.

Honestly, using anything from Star Citizen as an example of what any other development studio should do is just... odd.

mcstackerson

When it comes to the combat rework, there isn't a roadmap because a lot of it is in flux. They are testing different mechanics and figuring out what people like/what works. For example, we originally had split body attacking in the br but it was changed because people said the combat felt floaty.

I agree that it would be nice to have some idea of what they are planning to add in the future, at least for this test.

McShave

I would like to know what each team is working on right now and what they have planned next. I just want to be able to schedule my excitement for the next few months, if not years.

As far as we know, they are working on everything or they are working on nothing.

As much as I would like a roadmap, I think it would put unwanted pressure on the devs to release things before they are comfortable. Best to just let them do what they are doing, it has worked so far.

Dygz

We have a dev stream in a couple days.

Fairtale

CROW3 wrote: »

I suggest reading what's available on the wiki before demanding Intrepid spoon feed you.

no need to shit on other player's opinions. Asking for a roadmap is nothing to get all aggressive about.

Fairtale

CriminalCupcake wrote: »

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule

cool, thanks!

Aerlana

mr n0body wrote: »

Star Citizen Roadmap, of a game in development.

... Example about development from SC deserve everything you try to say...
This game feels like a big unvolontary scam, Chris Robert is totally unable to really get in one direction, adding things randomly, without even fixing what exists. he creates puzzle pieces and then try to bind them together...

The roadmap is nice but here proves nothing.

CROW3

McShave wrote: »

I think it would put unwanted pressure on the devs to release things before they are comfortable. Best to just let them do what they are doing, it has worked so far.

Agree with this sentiment. I'd probably take it further and state that providing a feature roadmap at this stage has no benefit to anyone, and is only a downside. There are plenty of places to read up on features on the drawing board. There are plenty of places to discuss ideas.

There's a lot I'd like to know from Intrepid, but there is nothing I need to know.

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