Split Body Animation & Death Animation Feedback

Hello Everyone,
I've been wanting to post my feedback about the Split Body Animation since Alpha 1 but kept postponing it, so here we are.

Split Body Animation

When you attack an enemy with the normal attack, if you are not close enough you still do the attack but miss, and that doesn't feel very good.
My proposal is when you have someone selected, if you are not in range when you are using your attack or a skill, your character to start moving towards the enemy and when in range to do the skill. Pretty much like other mmo's.

This will make the combat feel way better, and solve another problem when you try to tab-target a mob in front of you but you end up targeting a mob left of you and it's not in range. Instead of getting the message 'enemy not in range' thinking you selected the mob in front of you, your character will start moving left towards the mob that got selected.

In summary:
When selecting a mob and using any of the attacks, your character to start moving to that specific mob until it's in attack range and then perform the attack/skill.
This applies to other players as well in case of a cleric wanting to heal someone but not knowing exactly where they are and couldn't heal them because they were not in range.

Death Animation

In the last stream we all saw the new death animation which looks stunning. I love the idea and I never saw anything like it.
I want to give a bit of feedback regarding that.
Instead of just having the pile of ashes at the end, retain the body shape of the player that died in the ash pile so it looks like a body made of ashes. Also like this when you get ressurected the animation can be from the body of ashes, not just appearing from nowhere.

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daveywavey

Atama wrote: »

(I relate, I’m a guy and often people assume I’m a woman online, I consider it a compliment though.)

Erm, no... why would you say that......?!

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daveywavey

Conrad wrote: »

I really hope the death anim won't be the only 1. Looks cool but needs different varieties. Falling forward, back, blasted to the side etc

It'd be cool to be able to choose your death animation as part of Character Creation.

Ironhope

daveywavey wrote: »

Conrad wrote: »

I really hope the death anim won't be the only 1. Looks cool but needs different varieties. Falling forward, back, blasted to the side etc

It'd be cool to be able to choose your death animation as part of Character Creation.

Would be cool if the death animation was linked to the way you died (crushed, hit from the front, hit from the left, hit from the right, hit from behind, beheaded, cut in two, etc).

This being said, yeah I'd like to be able to choose for a ''biological'' death animation, from a ''mystical'' death animation using ash effects and so on.

Yuyukoyay

Not entirely sure what the first one means entirely. I don't want the game doing actions for you though. I've tried systems like that in other games and it's always super annoying. Often never does an action close to what I want to do. If you mean how other games generally tell you you're out of range though then I'm fine with that.

I agree with the death animation though. Having something tied to the model of the dead character would be a little better.

Khronus

JustVine wrote: »

Khronus wrote: »

CROW3 wrote: »

Atama wrote: »

I want to be able to write a short poem that my character will utter before gasping his last breath.

Please enable the Death Poem feature Intrepid, kthkxbye.

A scrub named Atama he was hailed,
while gathering ore he was nailed,
despite being green,
murdered he'd been,
'cause the corruption system had failed.

A scrub named Crow3 he was known,
with his last breath he did groan,
despite being short,
murdered for sport,
his body decayed down to bone.

The death animation is amazing!!! Also, I like that you can use an ability out of range. Being that we are wanting a hybrid action style of combat using free motion, I want to have to learn to be in the right position to connect my hits rather than be spammed with "you are out of range" voices or messages.

A scrub named Khronus it was written
With the strength and pride of a kitten
Though he were a tank
He took a deadly shank
And the rogue got away with his chiton

HAHAHA I love you

Khronus

Odal wrote: »

I don't think I like the new death animaton, except from a story perspective, cause the thing with a death animation is that it must feel punchy as fuck. Wow did it good.
And if you just turn into ash - that "punchy" feeling of "I rekt you" is pretty much deleted. But maybe im wrong, I haven't played the game so we'll see. Maybe it will work somehow and still has a good feeling.

I am beyond confused at what you are wanting. A punchy feeling death animation? Killing someone and having them burn into a pile of ash is not satisfying? Maybe it would be more fitting for you if a meteor came down and crashed into the enemy every time they died? a boxing glove appeared and K.O.'d them?

In wow the body just falls over and lays there. Eventually it becomes a skeleton. A cartoon skeleton.

Khronus

Odal wrote: »

Khronus wrote: »

Odal wrote: »

I don't think I like the new death animaton, except from a story perspective, cause the thing with a death animation is that it must feel punchy as fuck. Wow did it good.
And if you just turn into ash - that "punchy" feeling of "I rekt you" is pretty much deleted. But maybe im wrong, I haven't played the game so we'll see. Maybe it will work somehow and still has a good feeling.

I am beyond confused at what you are wanting. A punchy feeling death animation? Killing someone and having them burn into a pile of ash is not satisfying? Maybe it would be more fitting for you if a meteor came down and crashed into the enemy every time they died? a boxing glove appeared and K.O.'d them?

In wow the body just falls over and lays there. Eventually it becomes a skeleton. A cartoon skeleton.

You are confused about this simple text? Alright.....errr..... Yeah exactly I want them to fall down "UERGGUU AHHHHHHH AAAA!!!!", not turn into ash like *poof*

But for a second time (as in my first post) - it might work and feel good, who knows. I haven't tried it.

Your original comment confused me because I honestly don't understand your perspective. Wow death animation was trash and did/does not feel "punchy" (wtf does that even mean?).

Let me break it down a bit. The thing with a death animation is not that it needs to be punchy. It simply needs to represent the death of a player. If I finish you off with an execute style attack using my great axe, whether you fall to the ground making a stupid noise and turn into a cartoon skeleton or fall over onto the ground while burning up into a pile of ash, you still died. Both served their purpose and both should give you the satisfaction of "I rekt you".

What I am assuming you would benefit more from are proper sounds from landing attacks and critical strikes. Certain games have very amusing uses of these things. Rust headshots for example do a great job of rewarding me with that ever so sweet crunch when I shoot the noggin.

Even with the previous placeholder death animation it felt rewarding to murder people when I played. You're going to enjoy the game 100%. We need players with your thirst for blood : ).

Atama

I love the death animation. It tells a story about how the characters are able to come back to life and ties into the game title.

It reminds me of vampires that turn into ash upon dying regardless of how they die; stake through the heart, decapitation, prolonged exposure to sunlight, etc. That happens because they’re vampires. What happens to our characters is also due to the nature of what they are.

Plus it looks pretty cool. And it’s a lot more distinctive than the typical “I’m a corpse now” result of a typical game.

Nerror

The popularity of WoW had nothing to do with the death animations, come on now. Punchy how? They are just generic "aaaaargh" and they crumble and fall over to the front, back or side. If you want to bring an example of good death animations, WoW surely isn't it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8a25tSdWa8

Khronus

I watched that whole video of wow death animations and man do I really understand now. That was the single most punchiest video I have ever seen. You were right @Odal . There is no point in arguing with you as there is no way you are wrong. I may play wow again because of just how punchy those death animations are. I'll name my character punchy mcpunchington III. I'll only ever use fist weapons to increase the amount of raw punchage. punch.

Enigmatic Sage

I rather enjoy where Intrepid is going with the death animation and reanimation. Fits the phoenix theme of Ashes of Creation. Could be funny watching it in reverse seeing those ashes/embers reform into a body upon resurrection. But that's just me being silly

Nerror

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

I rather enjoy where Intrepid is going with the death animation and reanimation. Fits the phoenix theme of Ashes of Creation. Could be funny watching it in reverse seeing those ashes/embers reform into a body upon resurrection. But that's just me being silly

Not silly at all. I think the reanimation should be a small fire phoenix morphing from ashes into the character.

Enigmatic Sage

Nerror wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

I rather enjoy where Intrepid is going with the death animation and reanimation. Fits the phoenix theme of Ashes of Creation. Could be funny watching it in reverse seeing those ashes/embers reform into a body upon resurrection. But that's just me being silly

Not silly at all. I think the reanimation should be a small fire phoenix morphing from ashes into the character.

that would be cool!

Azherae

Odal wrote: »

Khronus wrote: »

I watched that whole video of wow death animations and man do I really understand now. That was the single most punchiest video I have ever seen. You were right @Odal . There is no point in arguing with you as there is no way you are wrong. I may play wow again because of just how punchy those death animations are. I'll name my character punchy mcpunchington III. I'll only ever use fist weapons to increase the amount of raw punchage. punch.

I always find it so interesting that some people get so mad when someone does not agree with their opinion on a certain topic. May I ask, if not to be rude, but do you have autism/asperger?
That could be a reasonable explanation I suppose.

You're acting incredibly childish.

Huh... this post didn't get flagged or anything?

Because I've been seriously, no-negativity-intended been wanting to genuinely ask Dygz this for like two months now...

maouw

Odal wrote: »

Azherae wrote: »

Odal wrote: »

Khronus wrote: »

I watched that whole video of wow death animations and man do I really understand now. That was the single most punchiest video I have ever seen. You were right @Odal . There is no point in arguing with you as there is no way you are wrong. I may play wow again because of just how punchy those death animations are. I'll name my character punchy mcpunchington III. I'll only ever use fist weapons to increase the amount of raw punchage. punch.

I always find it so interesting that some people get so mad when someone does not agree with their opinion on a certain topic. May I ask, if not to be rude, but do you have autism/asperger?
That could be a reasonable explanation I suppose.

You're acting incredibly childish.

Huh... this post didn't get flagged or anything?

Because I've been seriously, no-negativity-intended been wanting to genuinely ask Dygz this for like two months now...

Haha. Ok. Well we'll see if we get our answer then. I just don't understand why you have to be rude to someone who disagrees with you. Unless it's in a "fun" poking humourus way. But not straight out mad-rude.

There are many ways to be jaded.

Anonymous332

The "Punch" you guys refer to is simply flinch animation + audio, which is very underrated and ignored by devs a lot of times because people dont really care enough about these minor details, but they are important for the "feels" i agree.

daveywavey

Azherae wrote: »

Huh... this post didn't get flagged or anything?

Because I've been seriously, no-negativity-intended been wanting to genuinely ask Dygz this for like two months now...

I'd been considering asking Odal that same question! But, just decided to Block him instead! Hahaha

JustVine

Nerror wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

I rather enjoy where Intrepid is going with the death animation and reanimation. Fits the phoenix theme of Ashes of Creation. Could be funny watching it in reverse seeing those ashes/embers reform into a body upon resurrection. But that's just me being silly

Not silly at all. I think the reanimation should be a small fire phoenix morphing from ashes into the character.

Well in the ancient Egyptian religion people thought one's soul was literally a bird called Ba. The bird with a human head represented the spirit that left the body on death to the underworld. They also thought that the soul and your life force came from the sun. So stories of a soul returning to the physical realm would be close to this imagery quite a lot.

Edit: Less Ashes though. Cremation was a big nono.

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