Dedicated RP servers

Hello everyone,

As known so far we will get multiple servers with different prime time and locations. This is to optimize connectivity and ensure that many of the core system activities are happening in your prime time.

However next to this data there is a feature that i would love to have a few of the servers designated as. As you know, people have mixed feelings about RP in an mmo. Some love it, some hate it. And while rp should persist on every server, I think that it would be nice, if some servers get a RP server tag before you create a character. This will ensure that more like minded players will choose for those That server, and that people who do not like RP, will choose a different one. In the end i think this will improve the experiance for most people.

What do you think about this?

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Kesthely

Rp is about communication. In a game you can't do all of the nuanced body language that conveys a lot of information. In my example EEE {{ I'm scared}} you could also replace it with EEE {{ The voice is extremely high pitched, but fades quickly, when it is at its end it trembles as if it is out of breath to keep the sound going. you notice the characters eyes shifting about, his hairs standing upright on his arms, and his physique trembling slightly, he reveals an oder of urine and seems ready to dart away}}

the point is that rp ers (the good ones) lack tools for stuff. They don't have all the bodylanguage and phonetic information that we rely on in real life. you need to {{ help }} that. If you ever been to a foreign language of wich you don't speak the language, you'll notice how relative easy it is to convey complex information, with jus hand gestures, looks and sounds

George_Black

Are you people serious?

Kesthely

@George Black yes. In a lot of games you see people roleplaying a silent guy, or a foreigner, or (especially if the game has druids that can shapeshift) an animal. Some rp ers get quite extreme, some love it some hate it.

George_Black

You want a rp server which requires moderation ($) so that people can run around pretending to be mice and speak in mice language.
You actually talk about this in a serious manner, ignoring the fact that AoC is a very ambitious project, and I mean ambitious tangible gameplay designs, that ping and timezones will affect the ability of players to progress and you think that the best investment would be to redisign content for RPrs ($), since you wont pvp and I be you wont have the ability required to tackle challenging content, dedicate a server for you ($), or two (na, eu to cover all bases...), and all that while the devs fight against p2w and lobby gameplay content ($).

I bet you can EEEEEE in games that alrdy have rp servers. If makebelieve is what you are after I dont get why the setting matters. Anyway, Im sure this paragraph will be your sticky point so once again:
AoC is ambitious gameplay wise. The devs said there wont be a server where rp griefers get moderated. Not gonna happen.

Noaani

Kesthely wrote: »

the point is that rp ers (the good ones) lack tools for stuff.

So, RP within the tools you do have.

If you want communication to be easy, don't RP a character that doesn't speak the same language as everyone else.

It's not like you don't have a choice in these things.

daveywavey

To be fair to the OP, the "other language" thing was just a random example that I used, and not the point of their thread.

Kesthely

@George Black The "mouse" character was in response to someone trying to be smart about an example of how someone has disrupted RP in the past. the following resulted in how such a character could be played without being disruptive.

I urge you to reread the first posts where its specificly discussed that there need not be any redesign, or additional governing. but if you lack the integrity to read the entire threat i'll summarize it for you:

1) The server would only receive an RP tag to attract rp intrested players to that server instead of having them scattered, or having to search the forums to find a server that is suited.
2) No additional rules will be needed
3) No additonal resources need to be spend.on intrepid's part In fact its likely that fewer resources need to be spend. Due to most rp and rp grievers being on the same server.

Also you have a lot of misconceptions about rp ers. Rp ers like to do all the same stuff as a "regular" player, Pvp, pve, marketing, etc. However they also tend to socialize more trough rp.

@Noaani modern mmo's have sufficient tools already, and almost every game that allows addons has additional addons to make up for the shortcommings that some games have. However as it stands now, Ashes doesn't allow addons. So in that case you have to resort back to old school bracketing.

Kesthely

daveywavey wrote: »

To be fair to the OP, the "other language" thing was just a random example that I used, and not the point of their thread.

Thank you for clarifying that.

To be honest i could have just ignore the examples, and discussions. Most people would because at first glance it looks like deliberate responses to aggrevate people. However i tend to awnser such questions and topics as serious questions, since there is always the chance that the one asking the question is either uninformed or misinformed.

Noaani

Kesthely wrote: »

So in that case you have to resort back to old school bracketing.

Or you stick with the tools you have.

Nerror

Noaani wrote: »

Kesthely wrote: »

So in that case you have to resort back to old school bracketing.

Or you stick with the tools you have.

Old school bracketing is a tool they have.

Noaani

Nerror wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Kesthely wrote: »

So in that case you have to resort back to old school bracketing.

Or you stick with the tools you have.

Old school bracketing is a tool they have.

Is it though?

If it were a tool for that purpose, there would be a way to make it so only those that spoke the language in question would understand what is said.

It is a tool in the same way a hammer is a tool when you want a circular saw.

If all you have is a hammer, stick to banging in nails.

daveywavey

Noaani wrote: »

If all you have is a hammer, stick to banging in nails.

You know you spend too long on the internet when that phrase becomes a double entendre.

Nerror

Noaani wrote: »

Nerror wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Kesthely wrote: »

So in that case you have to resort back to old school bracketing.

Or you stick with the tools you have.

Old school bracketing is a tool they have.

Is it though?

Yes. Of course. Your approval of the tool is completely irrelevant to them and their usage of it. If it works for them, great. If not, they won't use it.

Noaani

Nerror wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Nerror wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Kesthely wrote: »

So in that case you have to resort back to old school bracketing.

Or you stick with the tools you have.

Old school bracketing is a tool they have.

Is it though?

Yes. Of course. Your approval of the tool is completely irrelevant to them and their usage of it. If it works for them, great. If not, they won't use it.

As I said in the post you partially quoted, it is less about it being "a" tool (by definition, literally anything is a tool), and more about performing actions to match the tools on hand.

While every tool can be a hammer, a hammer isn't the tool for every job. As I ended the above post - if all you have is a hammer, stick to banging in nails.

Kesthely

Well currently theres not much known about all of the customization option for emotes / and which in game tools rp ers will have. Nor the fact if they allow RP addons (if any addons at all)

Atama

Kesthely wrote: »

Well currently theres not much known about all of the customization option for emotes / and which in game tools rp ers will have. Nor the fact if they allow RP addons (if any addons at all)

Sorry, we've known for years that there will be no addons allowed in the game.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Addons

The goal is that the UI is customizable enough for you to get the look you want without addons. But no, no addons, no macros, no mods. Not even DPS meters (either built-in or 3rd party).

Kesthely

Atama wrote: »

Kesthely wrote: »

Well currently theres not much known about all of the customization option for emotes / and which in game tools rp ers will have. Nor the fact if they allow RP addons (if any addons at all)

Sorry, we've known for years that there will be no addons allowed in the game.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Addons

The goal is that the UI is customizable enough for you to get the look you want without addons. But no, no addons, no macros, no mods. Not even DPS meters (either built-in or 3rd party).

There are different types of addons for a game. The type of addon that is usable in game (wich is stated that they don't want to have) and addons to the game that work outside of the game (eg player or guild information that is beeing pulled to use in for community building like discord servers etc)

The secondary addon type, wich requires api to pull information from the game might lead to out of game addons where you can easily flesh out your character to an extend far greater and more visible then will be achievalbe in game. At this time the current state of those API based addons is:

The design of the game API is still under consideration. Livestream, 5 May 2017 (21:41).

Atama

That's not an addon though. You're talking about an app that can draw data out of the game via API. You're incorrectly calling it an addon. An addon by definition is added to the game itself, hence the name.

But yes I'm interested in what API support they come up with. I know they're already planning their own sort of thing with their mobile app. I imagine they might piggy back on that to provide data to 3rd parties.

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