Will AoC incorporate any blockchain technologies?

I've seen a few threads around this topic, but were specific to play-to-win, and cryptocurrencies. Blockchain can be leveraged without either, so I am just curious to find out if the devs are going to incorporate the technology at all.

I've immersed myself in blockchain for the past year, and especially on the gaming side, it is exploding....but mostly with crap. Notable exception is Gala (gala.games). I tend to live at the cutting edge of gaming (for the last 40 years), and while AoC has some new wrinkles on the MMORPG trope, it's not groundbreaking. Doesn't mean it won't be fun, which is the core attribute all games should have.

For me personally, now that I understand where our hobby is heading, it is REALLY hard to invest time and effort in a game where no matter what I accomplish in the game world, no matter how much wealth I obtain, or unique items I own, those assets will NEVER leave that world. And you can't glue blockchain on after the fact.

This is why I am asking the question of whether it will be included as part of its core.

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mcstackerson

Chillmaw wrote: »

Correct me if im wrong but arnt blockchains essentially ledgers that are constantly checked by computer/servers to make sure their authentic, making them very energy instensive?

What exactly are the benefits of using blockchain for what your suggsting instead of just chucking a 20 at developer to send you a copy of your character profiles/files associated with items? You get a line of code to reminisce over and can upload to whatever will accept it, without creating a energy/money pit.

I believe the answer is legitimacy which is what could create this situation where someone might accept it.

If you just said here are my files from another game, there would be no reason to trust you. You could either have a copy of someone else's or you could have modified the files. The idea of blockchain is that it is something that could be used as proof.

At least that is my understanding.

Atama

Yeah, a blockchain can act like a digital certification of authenticity.

Digital files can be duplicated, so it's difficult to determine what the "real" version of a file is. That's what makes NFTs valuable. I linked to an article about NFTs earlier, it's worth a read if you're curious. (It's not extremely long and tries to simplify it.)

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/22310188/nft-explainer-what-is-blockchain-crypto-art-faq

Caww

If it would help prevent item/gold duping issues like NW had, then toss-in the tech if the overhead isn't too high. Since AoC upgraded to UE5 to slow future obsolesce, maybe the ledger aspect will have a future use not yet contemplated 5-10 years ahead like the OP implied. But, I'm leery of blockchain tech because the exchanges seem to be hackable so maybe AoCs' implementation could be exploited anyway and the security aspect null and void.

Bigger brains need to figure this out but the topic is broached at a good time, when something could be done while the programmers make lots of spaghetti.

SirChancelot

Is it bad to want to just play a game and not want any of that extra stuff?

Noaani

SirChancelot wrote: »

Is it bad to want to just play a game and not want any of that extra stuff?

Not at all.

Chillmaw

I mean, if you just want something to hang on to as a memento for a shutdown game, why does legitimacy matter?

If its so it can be used in another game then why not use redemption codes or an account share feature? Since any game of note that allowed it would mostly likely be keeping it within games made by the company/ publisher etc, because playing AOC on a draenei dual wielding Ysgramors axe of racism and wearing [insert popular ffx armour set] just aint happening.

If its so people can make a profit then why do not do it the way steam does it

,

Atama wrote: »

Yeah, a blockchain can act like a digital certification of authenticity.

Digital files can be duplicated, so it's difficult to determine what the "real" version of a file is. That's what makes NFTs valuable. I linked to an article about NFTs earlier, it's worth a read if you're curious. (It's not extremely long and tries to simplify it.)

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/22310188/nft-explainer-what-is-blockchain-crypto-art-faq

NFTs "value" comes from a group of friends constantly selling the same nft to each other until some dumbass outside the group buys it, because it sure as hell aint their "authenticity" thats making them valuable

tautau

If you want something to 'hang on' to game memories, fill up a folder with screenshots.

Free and easy.

Atama

I actually do have some screenshots from games I’ve played. So I can remember what some of my favorite characters were like.

Chillmaw

Yeah a screenshot is far superior as a memento than a digital reciept.

If you kept the food reciepts after going out for a nice meal people would think you had a hoarding problem

maouw

Chillmaw wrote: »

Yeah a screenshot is far superior as a memento than a digital reciept.

If you kept the food reciepts after going out for a nice meal people would think you had a hoarding problem

OP's idea is slightly different.

To use your example, it's like OP went fine dining, and as part of the dining package, he got a limited edition crystal swan memento - that's the kind of stuff someone would buy.

mcstackerson

Chillmaw wrote: »

If you kept the food reciepts after going out for a nice meal people would think you had a hoarding problem

I see it more as collectible cards. Yes, there would be common ones but there could also be rare ones which some people might value.

Sathrago

Virtual beanie babies. Its just another form of the same old scheme for people to gamble on with get rich quick schemes. The only people succeeding at it are lucky or have a large amount of capital to gamble with in the first place.

Boanergese

You can use blockchain for nonfungible trades. The records can be shared, but not traded. So, if your rich you can spend 69 million dollars to buy a digital painting. Here is an example.

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/11/976141522/beeple-jpg-file-sells-for-69-million-setting-crypto-art-record

As some people have mentioned because of mining for crypto currency using video cards which are great at doing the math, there has been a shortage of high-end video cards. That and some manufacturing issues with Covid and resources to make the video cards has caused the prices to jump. Instead of the Geforce 3080 and 3090 going for $700-$1,000 they are going for $2,000-$3,000 when they can be found.

Atama

Yeah I’m so glad I got a nice GeForce card a year ago when prices had temporarily stabilized and there was a good Black Friday deal.

But I literally watched prices regularly for a couple years before swooping in when I finally saw a deal. It’s insane.

George_Black

Let the thread die..

Okeydoke

Anyone wanna buy my picture of a dog smoking a cigar? 10k. Also have monkeys chilling on a yacht, 50k. Buy now before it's too late.

No I can't show you it because then you'll just right click and save image as. But it's fya though believe

Atama

Okeydoke wrote: »

No I can't show you it because then you'll just right click and save image as. But it's fya though believe

With NFTs it doesn’t matter. A downloaded picture is meaningless, but if someone has the blockchain verification then they have the “real” picture and have proof of ownership.

It’s like owning a Picasso, everyone else just has pictures of it.

Okeydoke

Yeah I know. You'd own the rights to it for use in any business or legal matter. But that doesn't stop a million other people around the world from right clicking and saving image and then they possess the image for their own use. And then you'd have to sue dozens, or hundreds, or thousands of individual people to stop them from using your picture of monkeys on a yacht lol.

And there's a difference between owning a Picasso and just a copy of a Picasso, versus owning an NFT or a copy of an NFT. With a real, tangible item like a Picasso, you own the actual piece, you own the canvas his hand was resting against while he painted it, you own the actual intricate strokes of paint on the canvas.

With a digital picture of monkeys on a yacht, the right click save image as file is functionally the same as the original NFT. They're both just digital files of the same thing.

Atama

Okeydoke wrote: »

With a digital picture of monkeys on a yacht, the right click save image as file is functionally the same as the original NFT. They're both just digital files of the same thing.

If your argument is that NFTs are stupid you’ll get no argument from me.

It’s the modern day pet rock.

Okeydoke

The one person I know that is very into NFT's also believes the earth is flat.

That said, some manifestations of NFT's will hold and maintain value and have use cases. It's just right now there's a lot of hysteria and a lack of critical thinking that is driving certain NFT markets. It's in it's infancy and has a lot of maturing to do. But I do believe elements of NFT's have a future, much bigger than the average NFT fanboy can even see.

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