Lvling via PvP and PvP quests

Personally I love the fact this game's niche is PvP.

I can't wait for the open world PvP both while leveling and at max level.

And I'd actually love it if the game went further and provided questing infrastructure and incentives for PvPing while leveling.

Such as, having not only PvE quests but also PvP quests which either encourage you to take down other players or even demand that you do so.

For example, let's say the same quest path eventually leads you to choose bewteen two communities, each with different quests and quest rewards and reputation rewards.

Each community's quests put you on a path of conflict with the players who chose the other community and it's quests.

For example, the quest from Community 1 demands that you hunt animal X for fur.
Community 2 quests will demand that you taint the furs of animal X to screw Community 1.

Just quests in general that puth players in competition with one another, and groups against other groups.

In general I think you should be able to loot quest items from a player you defeated in pvp if you're on the same quest as him.

Or you could just have quests that require you to kill X players but that would be more boring... not as boring as ''go kill 8 boars'' but still.

But yeah, how would you guys feel about PvP quests being a thing and via them lvling via PvP being a thing?

Personally I'd love it, I mean, you're going to have plenty of open world pvp anyway so why not at least build some infrastructure for it and some extra rewards for it?

How would you design these systems if you want them in the first place?

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Ironhope

Noaani wrote: »

Yeah?

Try building one using PvP.

PvP will be a core feature of building one as you will need (at least after the initial launch period) to destroy other nodes via PvP to take their place in the world.

Noaani

Ironhope wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Yeah?

Try building one using PvP.

PvP will be a core feature of building one as you will need (at least after the initial launch period) to destroy other nodes via PvP to take their place in the world.

Yeah, but you can destroy all the nodes you like - that won't actually build one.

The key point here is that you need both. You simply can not have a node without PvE. Since without that PvE to build the node, there would be no node to destroy in PvP, without that PvE, there would be no PvP.

This is basically how the game is designed. PvE first, then PvP. Without that PvE, there is nothing to PvP over.

Nerror

One might even call such a system PvX!

Ashes is integrating and synergizing PvE and PvP elements into one system. Few PvE things in Ashes exist without PvP affecting them, and vice versa.

caedwyn

in general i HATE forced pvp ...with ONLY 1 exception. defence for th node (city) that one i agree with even if i have bad day or anything...

Arkson

Ironhope wrote: »

My first suggestion was making quests that create conflicting interests between players, so conflict will happen naturally.

This is how almost every quest in the game is going to be already. This game has no factions, anyone can fight anyone. If there's a quest to kill a boar, and you find the boar and someone else is already killing it, you can wait for them to finish and the boar to respawn or you can try to kill them and take it for yourself.

And to the other idea of pvp specific quests like attacking caravans, pvp is already plenty rewarding without them. The point is that the game itself is designed to be a world that naturally pushes players into spots where there could be conflict and it's up to the player to decide how they want to act. Having a quest that literally says 'go destroy a caravan' isn't natural, it's just telling you to do something. The reason someone attacks your caravan shouldn't be because they have a quest that says to do it, it should be because they want the items you happen to be carrying, or they want to cut off some supply to a city to weaken it, or maybe they just want money and they're willing to risk corruption/relationships/etc to get it. Or they just enjoy pvp and want to play the outlaw type character.

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