A Question about Quests

So, i might be wrong here. But this is how I understand it so far:

-There will be 103 nodes possible on each server
-Each node has the potential (if leveled up to metropolis) to have enough quests from a player to go to max level just in that node

That begs the question: Will there be 103 different quest lines that all can take a player to max level? Or will there be a lot of copy-paste quests between towns?

If it is the first one, who will write, design and program 103 different quest lines?? That seems like an obscene amount of work!

If it is the second one, how many will be copy pasted? How different will the experience be between a player that started in the mountains compared to one on the beach?

Or are we looking at a few node-specific quests and the rest are general for all of them?

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Noaani

George_Black wrote: »

Dont you think that you should be playing more single player games, instead of trying to live amongst npcs in a massive multiPLAYER game?

This part is the part you are getting wrong.

Why shouldn't people that enjoy quests be able to do them with their friends?

Quests and NPC's are not inherent to single player games, they are just things you don't care about.

Some of the most fun I have had in online gaming has been exceedingly well written raid tier quests.

George_Black

Noaani wrote: »

George_Black wrote: »

Dont you think that you should be playing more single player games, instead of trying to live amongst npcs in a massive multiPLAYER game?

This part is the part you are getting wrong.

Why shouldn't people that enjoy quests be able to do them with their friends?

Quests and NPC's are not inherent to single player games, they are just things you don't care about.

Some of the most fun I have had in online gaming has been exceedingly well written raid tier quests.

And this is where you get things wrong. The topic at hand is the level of immersiveness of NPCs wanted by the author, not your wrong perception of what I care about.

Noaani

George_Black wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

George_Black wrote: »

Dont you think that you should be playing more single player games, instead of trying to live amongst npcs in a massive multiPLAYER game?

This part is the part you are getting wrong.

Why shouldn't people that enjoy quests be able to do them with their friends?

Quests and NPC's are not inherent to single player games, they are just things you don't care about.

Some of the most fun I have had in online gaming has been exceedingly well written raid tier quests.

And this is where you get things wrong. The topic at hand is the level of immersiveness of NPCs wanted by the author, not your wrong perception of what I care about.

Yes, the topic is the desire of someone to want good, well written quests in this MMO.

Your response was to play a single player game. You can check your response if you need - it's right there.

The only way one would use the answer you gave in relation to the desire for someone to want good quests is if one thinks that such quests are only for single players.

This is objectively incorrect.

So, either you were incorrect, or you posted a complete load of nonsense that was not at all related to the thread, or the post you quoted.

So which is it? Do you stand by what you said in which case you are objectively wrong, or did you mis-speak? I don't care which of these two it was, but it was indeed one of these two.

George_Black

Here is what's complete nonsense. To want yet another mmo being a story mode experience, a player interracting with npcs.
All in 4 lines...

Dygz

RPGs should certainly include story modes. Ashes will have those.
Ashes is a Themebox; not a Sandbox.

The great part about that is that there will be plenty of focus on players working on goals, like Node progression and Castle acquisition, that aren't necessarily associated with NPC quests.

George_Black

Dygz and noanni. Take it away for 6 pages. Cyas

Noaani

George_Black wrote: »

Here is what's complete nonsense. To want yet another mmo being a story mode experience, a player interracting with npcs.
All in 4 lines...

Having well written quests in a game does not mean that this defines the game.

Ashes will have instanced arenas. Is Ashes then defined by instanced arenas?

Noaani

Dygz wrote: »

RPGs should certainly include story modes. Ashes will have those.
Ashes is a Themebox; not a Sandbox.

The great part about that is that there will be plenty of focus on players working on goals, like Node progression and Castle acquisition, that aren't necessarily associated with NPC quests.

Agreed.

Ashes is more about players telling the story.

However, that doesn't make Georges statements accurate.

McShave

I think quests will tell the story of the world, not of a single player or character. Think back to the older mmos, did they contain the mandatory "you are the hero of the world, and you will save us all for 50 levels" type quests? I remember smaller stories about a man looking for his wife, or a group of trolls just over yonder who stole a magical tome and the mage guy needs the tome back.

QuiQSilv3r

@Dygz Themebox indicates that they are showing us the world instead of us experiencing the world, Steven came out and specifically said he doesnt want to make AOC a themebox

Dygz

What? No. Steven specifically states that Ashes is a Themebox.
What Steven doesn't want is a Themepark.

"In order for sandbox mechanics to mean something, there must be curated content to accompany the player’s choices. Which means, as the developers, we must create that Themebox style content but for every possible path the community may take."
---Steven

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