Why not offer 2v2 Arenas?

JamesSunderland wrote: »

I find you adorable aswell mister WoW arena player.
Point still stands
1v1 is confirmed and 2v2 isn't.

Anything can change, they might add it
Might not
Guess we will find out on game day after how long this game takes to come out

Pyrolol wrote: »

JamesSunderland wrote: »

I find you adorable aswell mister WoW arena player.
Point still stands
1v1 is confirmed and 2v2 isn't.

Anything can change, they might add it
Might not
Guess we will find out on game day after how long this game takes to come out

I mean, if your arguments are anything to go by, all it has done is galvanized Intrepids intent with the options they have.

if you want to affect change, you need to put up a good argument - you have not. Your argument bassically boils down to "but I prefer 2v2 to 1v1".

Noaani wrote: »

Pyrolol wrote: »

JamesSunderland wrote: »

I find you adorable aswell mister WoW arena player.
Point still stands
1v1 is confirmed and 2v2 isn't.

Anything can change, they might add it
Might not
Guess we will find out on game day after how long this game takes to come out

I mean, if your arguments are anything to go by, all it has done is galvanized Intrepids intent with the options they have.

if you want to affect change, you need to put up a good argument - you have not. Your argument bassically boils down to "but I prefer 2v2 to 1v1".

2v2 will be more enjoyable then 1v1 because you will have someone along side you to fight with, whether it be a random, friend, sibling or whatever. This opens up an opportunity to create strategies when versing teams.

having a second gives you the opportunity to chain up big dps moves, cc abilities and have an advantage to your team with the use of communication and coordination

Far more rewarding then going in solo and hoping for the best with just kiting or zerging and praying etc

Secondly, how will healers cope in a 1v1? In 2v2 they will be top pick as the most common was healer/dps however, with the option of a 2v2 it gives the double dps a chance to compete and get just as high as the healer/dps comps you verse especially higher elo, it also creates shorter games compared.

As OP stated, most commonly you play games with a friend, and sometimes waiting for that 3rd player to log on can take up a bit of time so having 2v2 to warm up and practice synergizing with

Rated 1v1 would only be fun for a handful of specs, 2v2 atleast gives every class a chance to compete together in this bracket

How was that?

Pyrolol wrote: »

How was that?

Everything you are saying a 2v2 can do, so too can a 3v3.

If 2v2 is more enjoyable because you have a random, friend, sibling or whatever with you, 3v3 is even better because you have two of them with you.

As for how well healers will do, well, that is yet to be seen. However, since healers can always opt to take a DPS secondary, and DPS can always opt to take a healer secondary, these things are minor discussion points at best - and are more a matter of intrigue, rather than something to consider in relation to game design.

Noaani wrote: »

Pyrolol wrote: »

How was that?

Everything you are saying a 2v2 can do, so too can a 3v3.

If 2v2 is more enjoyable because you have a random, friend, sibling or whatever with you, 3v3 is even better because you have two of them with you.

As for how well healers will do, well, that is yet to be seen. However, since healers can always opt to take a DPS secondary, and DPS can always opt to take a healer secondary, these things are minor discussion points at best - and are more a matter of intrigue, rather than something to consider in relation to game design.

Not true at all, for 3v3 and even 5v5 having an all dps team was by sure a fail, once you survive the burst it was pretty much a free win

The only time an all dps team was able to climb the ladder was literally in 2v2

Secondly, you missed some of my big points
Like the fact only certain meta specs, classes will dominate.

2v2 just made it so everyone can compete and have a more even playing field and more enjoyable type of arena

3v3 is completely different to 2v2 with having a healer & two dps comp

Pyrolol wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Pyrolol wrote: »

How was that?

Everything you are saying a 2v2 can do, so too can a 3v3.

If 2v2 is more enjoyable because you have a random, friend, sibling or whatever with you, 3v3 is even better because you have two of them with you.

As for how well healers will do, well, that is yet to be seen. However, since healers can always opt to take a DPS secondary, and DPS can always opt to take a healer secondary, these things are minor discussion points at best - and are more a matter of intrigue, rather than something to consider in relation to game design.

Not true at all, for 3v3 and even 5v5 having an all dps team was by sure a fail, once you survive the burst it was pretty much a free win

The only time an all dps team was able to climb the ladder was literally in 2v2

Secondly, you missed some of my big points
Like the fact only certain meta specs, classes will dominate.

2v2 just made it so everyone can compete and have a more even playing field and more enjoyable type of arena

3v3 is completely different to 2v2 with having a healer & two dps comp

You realize, I assume, that the meta of a game is different based on the game, right?

While it may well be true that a combination of roles dominates in one type of arena in one game, that does not mean they will dominate in that same type of arena in another game.

In Ashes, it is very possible that a 5v5 could be won by DPS - especially if that DPS all take tank or healer secondary classes.

Tyranthraxus

/Support any #v#, honestly.

Taiphee wrote: »

The arena is not a 1v1 thing or 3v3, 5v5 but a 1 man, 3 man, 5 man and possibly 20 man free-for-all deathmatch according to the wiki

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arenas

Man you guys are still arguing 🤦‍♂️

JamesSunderland

Taiphee wrote: »

Taiphee wrote: »

The arena is not a 1v1 thing or 3v3, 5v5 but a 1 man, 3 man, 5 man and possibly 20 man free-for-all deathmatch according to the wiki

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arenas

Man you guys are still arguing 🤦‍♂️

bruh

Taiphee wrote: »

Taiphee wrote: »

The arena is not a 1v1 thing or 3v3, 5v5 but a 1 man, 3 man, 5 man and possibly 20 man free-for-all deathmatch according to the wiki

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arenas

Man you guys are still arguing 🤦‍♂️

Why not

Taiphee wrote: »

The arena is not a 1v1 thing or 3v3, 5v5 but a 1 man, 3 man, 5 man and possibly 20 man free-for-all deathmatch according to the wiki

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arenas

What even is a 1 man deathmatch?

Noaani wrote: »

Taiphee wrote: »

The arena is not a 1v1 thing or 3v3, 5v5 but a 1 man, 3 man, 5 man and possibly 20 man free-for-all deathmatch according to the wiki

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arenas

What even is a 1 man deathmatch?

You verse yaself 😂

JamesSunderland wrote: »

Taiphee wrote: »

Taiphee wrote: »

The arena is not a 1v1 thing or 3v3, 5v5 but a 1 man, 3 man, 5 man and possibly 20 man free-for-all deathmatch according to the wiki

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arenas

Man you guys are still arguing 🤦‍♂️

bruh

I see

Noaani wrote: »

Taiphee wrote: »

The arena is not a 1v1 thing or 3v3, 5v5 but a 1 man, 3 man, 5 man and possibly 20 man free-for-all deathmatch according to the wiki

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arenas

What even is a 1 man deathmatch?

Free for all deathmatch.... Group of people killing each other without a team, 2 man team of 2, 3 man team of 3

☺️

Taiphee wrote: »

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Can just do that in world pvp 🥰
Arena will be where it shines 😉

Astronaute

2v2 and 3v3 should be the main focus, with separate ranking. 5v5, why not, but I know I will not enjoy it personally. For me, world PvP and 2v2 are kings because I don’t have many active friends.

So basically, WoW did arena really good, just copy the system: ditch 1v1 arenas, separate ranking for 2v2 and 3v3 to climb, and instead of looting gear, loot tokens with which we can buy gear.

This is what community wants, they will listen, don’t worry folks. After all, they cannot ignore the most popular arena mode ever, for whatever reason.

JamesSunderland

Oh yeah, Steven would certainly ditch the already stated 1v1 arenas, the arena mode present in both game he draws the most inspiration from.

Astronaute wrote: »

2v2 and 3v3 should be the main focus, with separate ranking. 5v5, why not, but I know I will not enjoy it personally. For me, world PvP and 2v2 are kings because I don’t have many active friends.

So basically, WoW did arena really good, just copy the system: ditch 1v1 arenas, separate ranking for 2v2 and 3v3 to climb, and instead of looting gear, loot tokens with which we can buy gear.

This is what community wants, they will listen, don’t worry folks. After all, they cannot ignore the most popular arena mode ever, for whatever reason.

You are assuming the arena in Ashes and in WoW have the same goals.

In WoW, the arena was designed to be "the" competitive PvP aspect for the whole game. For Ashes, it is a side attraction.