Ideas for an ideal CHAT

What would be your ideal chat?
How important do you think Chat will be for the sociability of AoC?
What things should or shouldn't it have?
How important is the chat for you?
The chat should have the option to be editable like CC?

What ideas under your experience in MMOs would make a chat the "ideal chat"?

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Ludullu

As a Lineage 2 simp, I find its chat amazing. Simplistic yet editable. Obviously just give players as many options to customize it as possible. Make it the Winamp of mmo chats!

MybroViajero

Some examples of other MMOs
wow CHAT

Gw2 CHAT

nw CHAT

bdo CHAT

Lineage 2 CHAT

Atlantica Online CHAT

Dygz

I usually ignore in-game chat.
I'm typically in voice chat and monitoring social media, like twitter, or following someone's twitch chat.

CROW3

Total channel display / filters. Also, the option to hide it entirely from the UI.

AidanKD

Good topic. I find that some games just seem to do things wrong to take away the ease of immersion with guild chat.

WoW chat has always honestly been pretty solid for me. Things I liked about it:

- There wasn't so much "spam" in the main default channel. It really was just /say, /general,/trade. It was clean. /yell as well for a larger local radius.
- -Say was default, made a chat bubble so you could see chat messages ON the person you are talking to. It's intuitive. All games should have this. Why don't you??
- colours were decent by default. Green for guild stood out, as did the purple whispers.

To give an example of bad chat design:

- Lost Ark's *default* chat is horrendous. All chat is in one tab, and the amount of channels, spam of loot pickup, currency, items etc. guild whispers all in one, it's impossible. By *default* chat should be friendly.
- One thing they did WELL - is customisability. I picked it up quickly, but it's just not intuitive. It should be easy and foster easy communication at different levels.
- I like toggle-able notifications for tab i.e "flashing" when a message is received.

i think that /say /party /whisper /guild /raid should all have chat bubbles, these should also be optional toggles in the options, but turned on by default. The bubbles should be colour coded the same way as the text.

These are my main likes and gripes - i think just make chat INTUITIVE, clean by default but customisable. Chat bubbles imo add immersion as I can type and follow a local conversation without looking to the chat window and I like that.

Noaani

Dygz wrote: »

I usually ignore in-game chat.

That's just because no one wants to talk to you.

CROW3

Noaani wrote: »

Dygz wrote: »

I usually ignore in-game chat.

That's just because no one wants to talk to you.

Hm. I would.

tautau

I prefer written chat to voice chat since I can read much faster than people can talk.

Sylvanar

Like AidenKD said, WoW chat is pretty solid. If we want we can have separate bubbles for any chat we want, else they stay in default chat and combat log is in a separate channel if AoC wants to make that available. Not to mention we get notification for whispers, and can modify the size and location of the chat bubble to anywhere on the screen. Not to mention tons of other customizing options provided as well.

I would prefer proximity/party based voice chat as well but its not a necessary feature as discord and other such options are available.

Rednam

I really dislike New Worlds chat...

World of Warcraft chat was good. I liked being able to have the different channels in a different window/tab.

which also makes me wonder/hope. is the HUD going to be movable in AoC? hm... gotta look up the supported graphics info....

Wiliest

Ideal chat = No censorship

Period.

Vaknar

Great question and topic, @MybroViajero !

Personally, I love WoW's chatbox. I believe I use an addon that hides it when not in use which makes it a little dynamic, but I think it's a great tool for communication and serves its purpose very well. I especially liked when they added class colors to the chatbox! It's cool seeing the visual examples that @MybroViajero provided of some other MMORPGs that I am both familiar and unfamiliar with!

I'm certainly curious to read more about what everyone thinks is best for Ashes of Creation!

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Caww

Chat windows are chat windows and no matter what formats are used it's ultimately some player that abuses the open format and there are very few ways to weed out people determined to cause disruption.

MybroViajero

AidanKD wrote: »

Good topic. I find that some games just seem to do things wrong to take away the ease of immersion with guild chat.

WoW chat has always honestly been pretty solid for me. Things I liked about it:

- There wasn't so much "spam" in the main default channel. It really was just /say, /general,/trade. It was clean. /yell as well for a larger local radius.
- -Say was default, made a chat bubble so you could see chat messages ON the person you are talking to. It's intuitive. All games should have this. Why don't you??
- colours were decent by default. Green for guild stood out, as did the purple whispers.

To give an example of bad chat design:

- Lost Ark's *default* chat is horrendous. All chat is in one tab, and the amount of channels, spam of loot pickup, currency, items etc. guild whispers all in one, it's impossible. By *default* chat should be friendly.
- One thing they did WELL - is customisability. I picked it up quickly, but it's just not intuitive. It should be easy and foster easy communication at different levels.
- I like toggle-able notifications for tab i.e "flashing" when a message is received.

i think that /say /party /whisper /guild /raid should all have chat bubbles, these should also be optional toggles in the options, but turned on by default. The bubbles should be colour coded the same way as the text.

These are my main likes and gripes - i think just make chat INTUITIVE, clean by default but customisable. Chat bubbles imo add immersion as I can type and follow a local conversation without looking to the chat window and I like that.

Definitely WOW chat is a reference but I think it is mostly because of the ADDONS and the UI work, I wonder if in AoC the UI can be used in the same way.

daveywavey

MybroViajero wrote: »

What would be your ideal chat?
What things should or shouldn't it have?
How important is the chat for you?
Should the chat have the option to be editable?

What ideas under your experience in MMOs would make a chat the "ideal chat"?

My ideal chat: I guess it would have to be a chat about something interesting, or maybe something funny. Or both interesting and funny. Also, chatting with somebody that has some personality and is easily understandable. It's hard to chat if you're struggling to work out what someone's saying.

How important: Chatting isn't specifically important to me, cos I don't really like people much or at all, but sometimes it's an acceptable way to pass the time.

Editable: Ohhhhhh. I may have misunderstood this topic......

fabula

Since AoC will not have an automatic party finder system I assume the chat will be very important in order to gather people for group content. My hope is they take the best things that worked and were useful in other games, try them out and modify/improve as necessary.

Things that are a must have is the ability to add tabs, filter content and change the text color. The ability to create channels and be able to moderate them would be nice ho have if it doesn't undermine another part of the game.

The main thing I want is for the chat to be good enough so that you are not required to have some other program such as discord that functions as the game's defacto chat system.

Silberwolf

If I would have a choice, I would prerfer the chatsystem of Anarchy Online.
You can have as many chat-windows as you want and you can write in every chat seperately,
without continuesly changing the channel-prefix ... Also every single chat contains filters and
chatcolour can be adjusted at will ...

Cheers

AidanKD

MybroViajero wrote: »

Definitely WOW chat is a reference but I think it is mostly because of the ADDONS and the UI work, I wonder if in AoC the UI can be used in the same way.

There are some great addons absolutely. But I never used addons for chat and really was referencing the default experience. I guess it's a testament to the fact that I *personally* never needed them for it to be functional and easy to use for me.

Elwendryll

wiliestrogue wrote: »

Ideal chat = No censorship

Period.

I hate it when the profanity filter isn't a toggle. Especially for asian games, they have the (seemingly) most random filter rules. It should be up to the player to decide whether they want to have their chat censored or not.

Other than that, I expect custom options for the chat (tabs, channel colors, timestamp, size, sound notification for private messages, etc...), the usual.

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