Going Red

What would it take for you to go Red? Gold? Revenge, anger and frustration? Nothing, you just do it anyway? Tell us, what would make you step over the line and go Red.

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Sweatycup

It will depend on how the law systems work as well as what guilds end up getting enough influence in regions to properly build-up and maintain a successful city. After that its all trickle down. I find it highly unlikely that a pure pvp guild would ever run a city successfully in the long run. But in the case it does i'm just attacking everyone because at that point its all just a killing field really if your not wearing the right crest or ticker. However, I think people will generally go for a more sociable interaction since the game isnt meant to be played like a castle defense for a singular entity or guild to profit and i'm sure we will see vassal guild uprisings too, you know, the lower village folk. I personally typically don't like to attack first unless i am with a pure pvp group of people. The actual interaction vs reward in ashes of creation most times isnt worth the head whomping, probably more useful alive unless as typical in pvp games, KoS or guild war enemy.

SirChancelot

NiKr wrote: »

SirChancelot wrote: »

If they want to just sit there and do nothing then I'll just get the resource node or mob I wanted, if there going to sit there and be a flower I'll ignore them.

Ok, I shouldn't have said "just stand there". They'll just continue doing whatever it is they were doing. The same thing you came there to do and would be trying to fight over. Except they wouldn't fight back in hopes that you gonna kill them and become red.

So your choice is to either share the resource/mobs or to go red. I've had many such cases in L2, when some dude didn't want to give up a farming spot but also didn't fight back when I attacked him.

Is hitting someone not going to interrupt their action?
Of mining or whatever?
I hit him and then start mining it myself
He can either move on or hit back.
He hits back and we throw down, I still don't end up red.

Ludullu

SirChancelot wrote: »

Is hitting someone not going to interrupt their action?
Of mining or whatever?
I hit him and then start mining it myself
He can either move on or hit back.
He hits back and we throw down, I still don't end up red.

We don't know whether it interrupts or not. We also don't know CD on gathering abilities, so if there's none - your target could just immediately restart gathering.

And in the case of farming mobs you'd have to outdps them to get the loot so there's that too.

SongRune

SirChancelot wrote: »

NiKr wrote: »

SirChancelot wrote: »

If they want to just sit there and do nothing then I'll just get the resource node or mob I wanted, if there going to sit there and be a flower I'll ignore them.

Ok, I shouldn't have said "just stand there". They'll just continue doing whatever it is they were doing. The same thing you came there to do and would be trying to fight over. Except they wouldn't fight back in hopes that you gonna kill them and become red.

So your choice is to either share the resource/mobs or to go red. I've had many such cases in L2, when some dude didn't want to give up a farming spot but also didn't fight back when I attacked him.

Is hitting someone not going to interrupt their action?
Of mining or whatever?
I hit him and then start mining it myself
He can either move on or hit back.
He hits back and we throw down, I still don't end up red.

Let's assume that it does. Now he's taken damage. Now he starts gathering again. Now you have to hit him again. Do this enough times, and you're red. He doesn't have to hit back.

If you want to say "well a mob will finish him", then I'll just point out he might already have damage from a mob, and you'll last-hit without realizing. (This is specifically intended, and why Steven has said you will not see other player's HP levels.)

Dygz

Well...
I also plan to have some Corrupted Zombie alts that will try to gain as much Corruption as possible before falling to pieces from decay.

George_Black

Dygz wrote: »

Well...
I also plan to have some Corrupted Zombie alts that will try to gain as much Corruption as possible before falling to pieces from decay.

It wont take you long. As soon as you lose your weapon or big armor piece for that character you will be free pvp and you will stop.

Atama

Shilee wrote: »

The thought of bounty hunter's attempting to track me down to kill me sounds like an exciting way to make leveling more enjoyable. In MMOs where open world PVP is a major theme, I usually enjoy going out and starting fights for no reason when possible.

Hopefully not. The game is set up to dissuade players from wanting to be corrupted. The stacking penalties (including the massive XP debt) and increased amount of stuff you lose on death (including the potential to lose gear) should make leveling much less enjoyable.

Being corrupted is supposed to not be fun. If it’s enjoyable, the game is doomed as it becomes a free-for-all gankfest nobody but a tiny playerbase will enjoy.

Noaani

SirChancelot wrote: »

NiKr wrote: »

SirChancelot wrote: »

If they want to just sit there and do nothing then I'll just get the resource node or mob I wanted, if there going to sit there and be a flower I'll ignore them.

Ok, I shouldn't have said "just stand there". They'll just continue doing whatever it is they were doing. The same thing you came there to do and would be trying to fight over. Except they wouldn't fight back in hopes that you gonna kill them and become red.

So your choice is to either share the resource/mobs or to go red. I've had many such cases in L2, when some dude didn't want to give up a farming spot but also didn't fight back when I attacked him.

Is hitting someone not going to interrupt their action?
Of mining or whatever?
I hit him and then start mining it myself
He can either move on or hit back.
He hits back and we throw down, I still don't end up red.

You are assuming that harvesting will work the same as it does in games like WoW - where resource nodes spawn and only one player can harvest it at a time.

While it *may* end up being like this, it also may not.

However, if it does end up being like this, all you are doing is fighting over one node spawn, not the whole area. If you aren't willing to fight for the region, you are better off just going to a different node spawn in that same region.

SirChancelot

Noaani wrote: »

SirChancelot wrote: »

NiKr wrote: »

SirChancelot wrote: »

If they want to just sit there and do nothing then I'll just get the resource node or mob I wanted, if there going to sit there and be a flower I'll ignore them.

Ok, I shouldn't have said "just stand there". They'll just continue doing whatever it is they were doing. The same thing you came there to do and would be trying to fight over. Except they wouldn't fight back in hopes that you gonna kill them and become red.

So your choice is to either share the resource/mobs or to go red. I've had many such cases in L2, when some dude didn't want to give up a farming spot but also didn't fight back when I attacked him.

Is hitting someone not going to interrupt their action?
Of mining or whatever?
I hit him and then start mining it myself
He can either move on or hit back.
He hits back and we throw down, I still don't end up red.

You are assuming that harvesting will work the same as it does in games like WoW - where resource nodes spawn and only one player can harvest it at a time.

While it *may* end up being like this, it also may not.

However, if it does end up being like this, all you are doing is fighting over one node spawn, not the whole area. If you aren't willing to fight for the region, you are better off just going to a different node spawn in that same region.

You're right, no idea how harvesting will work in ashes yet, hence I'm just spit balling here

However
I do like the idea of using javelin and tank walls to keep people away from nodes I want

Dygz

George_Black wrote: »

Dygz wrote: »

Well...
I also plan to have some Corrupted Zombie alts that will try to gain as much Corruption as possible before falling to pieces from decay.

It wont take you long. As soon as you lose your weapon or big armor piece for that character you will be free pvp and you will stop.

The whole point is to be free PvP. How long it takes to decay will depend on the level of that alt when it becomes a zombie.

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