Predatory FOMO emails

I was looking forward to this game, but honestly these emails are a huge red flag. A lot of us have had enough with this psychological nonsense creeping into Every. Single. Aspect. Of gaming. Your target audience is comprised, in large part, of people with high degrees of susceptibility to exploitation. It's completely tonedeaf, especially in light of Diablo pulling the curtain back entirely with its awful monetization.

I'm pretty much fed up with the mind games at this point. And I know I'm not the only one. I hope the extra quick cash you make from fomo sales is worth losing players. Because you lost me.

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Ferryman

There is a valid point behind the rant because some European countries has taken actions against aggressive marketing in games. The main focus is on loot boxes but some same elements as fomo is on that list as well.

Anyway, Ashes marketing is not that bad but I understand if it annoys some people. The main emphasis on those monthly letters have been selling cosmetics and actual progression of the development comes secondary. This has continued years and some people actually buys those cosmetic packages because of the fear of missing out, "last call on shop packages".

ClintHardwood

Vic20 wrote: »

I was looking forward to this game, but honestly these emails are a huge red flag. A lot of us have had enough with this psychological nonsense creeping into Every. Single. Aspect. Of gaming. Your target audience is comprised, in large part, of people with high degrees of susceptibility to exploitation. It's completely tonedeaf, especially in light of Diablo pulling the curtain back entirely with its awful monetization.

I'm pretty much fed up with the mind games at this point. And I know I'm not the only one. I hope the extra quick cash you make from fomo sales is worth losing players. Because you lost me.

I can live with FOMO cosmetics in the cash shop. If intrepid needs money, cosmetics are, imo, completely fair game because they do not affect the gameplay.

George_Black

Anyways.

Ferryman wrote: »

There is a valid point behind the rant because some European countries has taken actions against aggressive marketing in games. The main focus is on loot boxes but some same elements as fomo is on that list as well.

Anyway, Ashes marketing is not that bad but I understand if it annoys some people. The main emphasis on those monthly letters have been selling cosmetics and actual progression of the development comes secondary. This has continued years and some people actually buys those cosmetic packages because of the fear of missing out, "last call on shop packages".

Such posts as the OP should be given 0 ground or encouragement/"understanding".

The account is one days old and the language is full of marketing jargon. This is not how an annoyed user acts. This is a deliberetly harmful BS post. As if that person wouldnt play a new mmo when AOC releashes. In a heartbeat they would.

I wish suchs topics were removed straight away. They are simple attacks on IS abd AoC. Just delete them. They are not even refering to its development.

JamesSunderland

Vic20 wrote: »

I was looking forward to this game, but honestly these emails are a huge red flag. A lot of us have had enough with this psychological nonsense creeping into Every. Single. Aspect. Of gaming. Your target audience is comprised, in large part, of people with high degrees of susceptibility to exploitation. It's completely tonedeaf, especially in light of Diablo pulling the curtain back entirely with its awful monetization.

If emails about non-p2w unique monthly cosmetics are a "red flag" for you,
i would say thats quite an interesting hill to die on in this genre,

I have no idea whatsoever how you managed to throw in Diablo immortal mobile Insane P2W monetization in relativisation to Ashes cosmetic emails.

Vic20 wrote: »

I'm pretty much fed up with the mind games at this point. And I know I'm not the only one. I hope the extra quick cash you make from fomo sales is worth losing players. Because you lost me.

Oh yeah the "mind games", what are you gonna call it next?
Exploitative marketing? Manipulative and greedy psychological tricks?

To be honest, your post is either pure ignorance or just straight up dishonesty.
I would expect the second, but who knows, you might just be lost....

MybroViajero

Dygz

Ferryman wrote: »

Anyway, Ashes marketing is not that bad but I understand if it annoys some people. The main emphasis on those monthly letters have been selling cosmetics and actual progression of the development comes secondary. This has continued years and some people actually buys those cosmetic packages because of the fear of missing out, "last call on shop packages".

I don't understand how a monthly letter is predatory.

akabear

Ah... Vic20.. there is a memory. My first PC was a Commodore Vic 20!

Even bought a 5kb expansion. It played Ultima 1... at the time, I never imagined graphics could be better

CROW3

akabear wrote: »

It played Ultima 1... at the time, I never imagined graphics could be better

Ah, the good ole days of high def orange and black.

Ferryman

Dygz wrote: »

Ferryman wrote: »

Anyway, Ashes marketing is not that bad but I understand if it annoys some people. The main emphasis on those monthly letters have been selling cosmetics and actual progression of the development comes secondary. This has continued years and some people actually buys those cosmetic packages because of the fear of missing out, "last call on shop packages".

I don't understand how a monthly letter is predatory.

And from where you got the idea that I have said so?

Stinkable

Why are people crying about cosmetics? Nothing they offer you gives you any advantage. Nothing changed.

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Dygz

Ferryman wrote: »

Dygz wrote: »

Ferryman wrote: »

Anyway, Ashes marketing is not that bad but I understand if it annoys some people. The main emphasis on those monthly letters have been selling cosmetics and actual progression of the development comes secondary. This has continued years and some people actually buys those cosmetic packages because of the fear of missing out, "last call on shop packages".

I don't understand how a monthly letter is predatory.

And from where you got the idea that I have said so?

A reply to something you wrote can be an also - not necessarily a disagreement.

Caww

There are "Unsubscribe" and other options at the bottom of the email which can help manage what information you would like.

AnimusRex

I'm not sure which is worse - 'predatory' emails, or looking through this thread.

Then again, I had a choice, didn't I?

CROW3

AnimusRex wrote: »

I'm not sure which is worse - 'predatory' emails, or looking through this thread.

Then again, I had a choice, didn't I?

Wait until we enable the predatory forums. Mwahahahahaha!

Ferryman

Dygz wrote: »

Ferryman wrote: »

Dygz wrote: »

Ferryman wrote: »

Anyway, Ashes marketing is not that bad but I understand if it annoys some people. The main emphasis on those monthly letters have been selling cosmetics and actual progression of the development comes secondary. This has continued years and some people actually buys those cosmetic packages because of the fear of missing out, "last call on shop packages".

I don't understand how a monthly letter is predatory.

And from where you got the idea that I have said so?

A reply to something you wrote can be an also - not necessarily a disagreement.

I am sure it is hard to understand if I have not even said anything like that. LMAO

Op used "predatory fomo emails" on the title. I do not personally agree with that because those are not predatory fomo emails, rather just fomo emails.

Vic20

George_Black wrote: »

Anyways.

Ferryman wrote: »

There is a valid point behind the rant because some European countries has taken actions against aggressive marketing in games. The main focus is on loot boxes but some same elements as fomo is on that list as well.

Anyway, Ashes marketing is not that bad but I understand if it annoys some people. The main emphasis on those monthly letters have been selling cosmetics and actual progression of the development comes secondary. This has continued years and some people actually buys those cosmetic packages because of the fear of missing out, "last call on shop packages".

Such posts as the OP should be given 0 ground or encouragement/"understanding".

And yet, here you are. You've just demonstrated something important about how minds work.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

George_Black wrote: »

The account is one days old and the language is full of marketing jargon. This is not how an annoyed user acts. This is a deliberetly harmful BS post. As if that person wouldnt play a new mmo when AOC releashes. In a heartbeat they would.

You're giving me far too much credit. I'm flattered. But nah, I've been gaming MMOs since 1995 or whenever it was that Meridian started. I've played a lot of them since then. I'm not lying when I said I was looking forward to this game. But the integrity of a company matters a lot more to me at 45 than it did at 25. So I guess it depends on where you're at in life and how fed up you are with the direction of monetization.

Vic20

Otr wrote: »

Melkor wrote: »

Why are people crying about cosmetics? Nothing they offer you gives you any advantage. Nothing changed.

Cosmetics make you look sexy.

Everyone knows that Digital Barbie is the TRUE end-game of all MMOs.

Dygz

Ferryman wrote: »

Dygz wrote: »

Ferryman wrote: »

Dygz wrote: »

Ferryman wrote: »

Anyway, Ashes marketing is not that bad but I understand if it annoys some people. The main emphasis on those monthly letters have been selling cosmetics and actual progression of the development comes secondary. This has continued years and some people actually buys those cosmetic packages because of the fear of missing out, "last call on shop packages".

I don't understand how a monthly letter is predatory.

And from where you got the idea that I have said so?

A reply to something you wrote can be an also - not necessarily a disagreement.

I am sure it is hard to understand if I have not even said anything like that. LMAO

Op used "predatory fomo emails" on the title. I do not personally agree with that because those are not predatory fomo emails, rather just fomo emails.

Yep.

Vic20

akabear wrote: »

Ah... Vic20.. there is a memory. My first PC was a Commodore Vic 20!

Even bought a 5kb expansion. It played Ultima 1... at the time, I never imagined graphics could be better

Heck yeah. Another OG. Vic20 was my first, but we also had a C64, so I used that the most. All those Forgotten Realms / Dragonlance SSI Gold Box titles... All the Ultimas (okay, some were better than others). I didn't know this until recently, but the ORIGINAL original Neverwinter Nights from 1991 (not the Bioware one) used that old SSI engine and is widely considered the first MMO.

Wish I had known about that back in the day. Probably would have bought the $199 starter pack that came with 3 extra pixels on my longsword so that it was longer than everyone else's longsword.

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