Liniker wrote: » Grimseethe wrote: » Theyre going to add pve servers once hundreds of thousands of people leave in the first week of finding out there arent any, they would be fools not to have pve servers. how about you just go find a PvE game....?
Grimseethe wrote: » Theyre going to add pve servers once hundreds of thousands of people leave in the first week of finding out there arent any, they would be fools not to have pve servers.
Grimseethe wrote: » Liniker wrote: » Grimseethe wrote: » Theyre going to add pve servers once hundreds of thousands of people leave in the first week of finding out there arent any, they would be fools not to have pve servers. how about you just go find a PvE game....? I did its called, pantheon rise of the fallen.
NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » What are you on about, you don't even know how gear works in this game its not WoW. AOC will never be WoW it is designed as a completely different game. My opinion will never change on that, knowing what you are up against a head of time and trying to make a counter build to them before a fight is a casual mentality. Seriously when did all these PvE players think they are pro PvPers now all the sudden. The only WoW I've played is ~20h of tbc classic, yet I'm here hating on transmogs and asking for a direct sight-reading of enemies power lvls (at least rough estimates). You know why? Because I've played L2 for 12 years and sight-read all my enemies and knew when to engage them or when to run, or when to prepare for a specific kind of fight. If you consider L2's owpvp casual, I dunno what to tell you.
Mag7spy wrote: » What are you on about, you don't even know how gear works in this game its not WoW. AOC will never be WoW it is designed as a completely different game. My opinion will never change on that, knowing what you are up against a head of time and trying to make a counter build to them before a fight is a casual mentality. Seriously when did all these PvE players think they are pro PvPers now all the sudden.
ClintHardwood wrote: » Some of these comments have me worried. People saying that we shouldn't be able to inspect players' gear before a fight have almost assuredly never played a hardcore PvP game where deaths are regressive. Combat shouldn't be blindly running into people. Knowing who you're up against is vital for gameplay that feels fair. It'll be interesting to see their opinions change. The first time they die to a group of gankers in high catch high damage gear in full cosmetic overrides to obscure the fact that they' a ganking party will have people begging Intrepid for change. The anything goes in the wilderness RP isn't as fun as people have it made out in their heads.
Hailee wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Moment you can turn cosmetics off its pointless to buy it. Yuuuuuup, the shop will never make a cent if everyone just toggles it all off. Plus the game needs costumes/transmog. Imagine running around in some of the BIS armor sets in wow. 80% of the time they looked God awful! You had to change them to some pog looking green aesthetic gear just to look like garrosh hadn't picked it out for you and taken a dump on it before making you wear it. Cosmetics have to stay to fund the game and give people a creative avenue to express themselves and form an attachment through the full customisation arc of their own character.
Mag7spy wrote: » Moment you can turn cosmetics off its pointless to buy it.
NiKr wrote: » Ya know what solves the "BiS is fucking uggly" problem? Designing your game's BiS gear to not look ugly. But I know that it's pointless to argue for this point cause people are way too damn deep into their dressup fantasies, and I am happy that it allows the game to not be p2w, so I'll just learn to ignore everyone's cosmetics and only look at the stat buff icon.
mcstackerson wrote: » ClintHardwood wrote: » mcstackerson wrote: » You don't need to inspect someone to know their gear. If you are familiar with archeage, there will be a buff that shows the type of gear being worn and the quality. The icon alone should allow you to recognize what players are wearing. Having to click a person to see their gear buffs is no less obstructive than clicking to inspect them. Every second matters in a pvp game. I don't want to have to click each person to read about what gear they're wearing as they're killing me. Who said you had to click on them to see it? It could float next to their name.
ClintHardwood wrote: » mcstackerson wrote: » You don't need to inspect someone to know their gear. If you are familiar with archeage, there will be a buff that shows the type of gear being worn and the quality. The icon alone should allow you to recognize what players are wearing. Having to click a person to see their gear buffs is no less obstructive than clicking to inspect them. Every second matters in a pvp game. I don't want to have to click each person to read about what gear they're wearing as they're killing me.
mcstackerson wrote: » You don't need to inspect someone to know their gear. If you are familiar with archeage, there will be a buff that shows the type of gear being worn and the quality. The icon alone should allow you to recognize what players are wearing.
Mag7spy wrote: » ClintHardwood wrote: » Some of these comments have me worried. People saying that we shouldn't be able to inspect players' gear before a fight have almost assuredly never played a hardcore PvP game where deaths are regressive. Combat shouldn't be blindly running into people. Knowing who you're up against is vital for gameplay that feels fair. It'll be interesting to see their opinions change. The first time they die to a group of gankers in high catch high damage gear in full cosmetic overrides to obscure the fact that they' a ganking party will have people begging Intrepid for change. The anything goes in the wilderness RP isn't as fun as people have it made out in their heads. What are you on about, you don't even know how gear works in this game its not WoW. AOC will never be WoW it is designed as a completely different game. My opinion will never change on that, knowing what you are up against a head of time and trying to make a counter build to them before a fight is a casual mentality. Seriously when did all these PvE players think they are pro PvPers now all the sudden.
Dygz wrote: » ClintHardwood wrote: » Some of these comments have me worried. People saying that we shouldn't be able to inspect players' gear before a fight have almost assuredly never played a hardcore PvP game where deaths are regressive. Combat shouldn't be blindly running into people. Knowing who you're up against is vital for gameplay that feels fair. It'll be interesting to see their opinions change. The first time they die to a group of gankers in high catch high damage gear in full cosmetic overrides to obscure the fact that they' a ganking party will have people begging Intrepid for change. The anything goes in the wilderness RP isn't as fun as people have it made out in their heads. Ashes is a PvX game; not a hardcore PvP game. If gankers are killing me, why do I care what kind of gear they are wearing? And... I can check their nametag symbol to assess their gear if I wish, so - that's not really blind.
ClintHardwood wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » ClintHardwood wrote: » Some of these comments have me worried. People saying that we shouldn't be able to inspect players' gear before a fight have almost assuredly never played a hardcore PvP game where deaths are regressive. Combat shouldn't be blindly running into people. Knowing who you're up against is vital for gameplay that feels fair. It'll be interesting to see their opinions change. The first time they die to a group of gankers in high catch high damage gear in full cosmetic overrides to obscure the fact that they' a ganking party will have people begging Intrepid for change. The anything goes in the wilderness RP isn't as fun as people have it made out in their heads. What are you on about, you don't even know how gear works in this game its not WoW. AOC will never be WoW it is designed as a completely different game. My opinion will never change on that, knowing what you are up against a head of time and trying to make a counter build to them before a fight is a casual mentality. Seriously when did all these PvE players think they are pro PvPers now all the sudden. It's cute you think I'm a PvE player. For the past few years, most of my time has been spent on Albion online, a hardcore full-loot PvP game where the bulk of combat takes place in the open world. I have never even played WoW. I'm not even sure what my post had to do with WoW. I advise you to take a deep breath and reflect the next time you want to make a personal attack against someone you know nothing about.
ClintHardwood wrote: » Because the gear of the people killing you decides whether you should try to fight back or escape. By the time click them all one at a time to check their gear, you're dead.
NiKr wrote: » ClintHardwood wrote: » Because the gear of the people killing you decides whether you should try to fight back or escape. By the time click them all one at a time to check their gear, you're dead. TTK in Ashes will be longer than that so it won't be as impactful, but I definitely hope they make the icon visible w/o clicking on a person.
Sigtyr wrote: » Will it really? I'm ignorant on what Steven has said regarding this subject but as an Alpha 1 mage I could delete fighters and other mages in 15 seconds if I outplayed them. Less if I got the jump. Can only imagine this gets easier as my ability pool, stats, and gear increase.
ClintHardwood wrote: » I understand AoC intends to cater to RP'ers, but for the sake of gameplay in an open PvP world, we need to see what gear people are wearing before a fight breaks out. I don't think it's viable to have to inspect each person we come across. Please add the option to disable cosmetics.
Mag7spy wrote: » Grimseethe wrote: » Liniker wrote: » Grimseethe wrote: » Theyre going to add pve servers once hundreds of thousands of people leave in the first week of finding out there arent any, they would be fools not to have pve servers. how about you just go find a PvE game....? I did its called, pantheon rise of the fallen. This has to be a troll account, i no longer can take anything he says seriously.
Grimseethe wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Grimseethe wrote: » Liniker wrote: » Grimseethe wrote: » Theyre going to add pve servers once hundreds of thousands of people leave in the first week of finding out there arent any, they would be fools not to have pve servers. how about you just go find a PvE game....? I did its called, pantheon rise of the fallen. This has to be a troll account, i no longer can take anything he says seriously. I never troll, ive been influencing mmos for over 20 years.
