NiKr wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Would you agree with this? I, as a non-fighting game player, would agree with this cause I see fighting games as more of "know your opponent and try to predict his next moves" thing rather than "mash and pray" one.
Noaani wrote: » Would you agree with this?
Azherae wrote: » He's a LEAP SIEGFRIED! This explains LITERALLY EVERYTHING.
Mag7spy wrote: » This is how I know you don't playing fighting games. -smh-
Azherae wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Would you agree with this? I, as a non-fighting game player, would agree with this cause I see fighting games as more of "know your opponent and try to predict his next moves" thing rather than "mash and pray" one. AHAHAHAHAHA DATA AT LAST! (posts from here on are moreso for my team than others, please do not make any extrapolation judgements on things I say about Mag7) He's a SIEGFRIED! He's a LEAP SIEGFRIED! This explains LITERALLY EVERYTHING.
NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » This is how I know you don't playing fighting games. -smh- So me saying "I don't play fighting games" tells you that I don't play fighting games? Seems good
NiKr wrote: » Azherae wrote: » He's a LEAP SIEGFRIED! This explains LITERALLY EVERYTHING. A quick google didn't give me any info on this. Could you give a quick explanation of what it is? Or maybe give a link to somewhere that explains it?
PenguinPaladin wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » This is how I know you don't playing fighting games. -smh- So me saying "I don't play fighting games" tells you that I don't play fighting games? Seems good I mean, its a base line... at least we know if he manages to read something written out he is capable of putting 2 and 2 together. Like others have said, it seems english isnt their first language as they keep ignoring peoples statment purposes, and constantly loops back around to bdo is the best combat example out there.
Azherae wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » This is how I know you don't playing fighting games. -smh- So me saying "I don't play fighting games" tells you that I don't play fighting games? Seems good And to follow up on that... people end up with entirely different perceptions of what fighting games are ABOUT based on what characters they play, the same as for classes in MMOs. So it would make sense for Mag to conclude 'you don't understand fighting games' when you have that response, because to a Siegfried player that usually is NOT how one plays. And similarly, most games have 'a character with that style'. This is why I use this sort of thing to judge/predict people. Even the response you received, to me, just indicates 'NiKr plays more methodically, so maybe Kilik', but Mag doesn't think in the same way as you, literally it's required to not. It's not a matter of 'fault'. In order to SUCCEED at playing Siegfried, you HAVE to 'disregard opposing attacks', you have to be 'willing to make sweeping generalizations', and you have to be 'willing to retreat before making a big attempt at getting into the other person's conceptual space'. Mag is 'fighting correctly' for who Mag is. It's me that hasn't been.
Azherae wrote: » And to follow up on that... people end up with entirely different perceptions of what fighting games are ABOUT based on what characters they play, the same as for classes in MMOs.
Mag7spy wrote: » PenguinPaladin wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » This is how I know you don't playing fighting games. -smh- So me saying "I don't play fighting games" tells you that I don't play fighting games? Seems good I mean, its a base line... at least we know if he manages to read something written out he is capable of putting 2 and 2 together. Like others have said, it seems english isnt their first language as they keep ignoring peoples statment purposes, and constantly loops back around to bdo is the best combat example out there. When people don't understand nuance and try to take things literal, and trying to throw a slight on top of it lmao. "Others" Someone assuming something they don't know
Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » This is how I know you don't playing fighting games. -smh- So me saying "I don't play fighting games" tells you that I don't play fighting games? Seems good And to follow up on that... people end up with entirely different perceptions of what fighting games are ABOUT based on what characters they play, the same as for classes in MMOs. So it would make sense for Mag to conclude 'you don't understand fighting games' when you have that response, because to a Siegfried player that usually is NOT how one plays. And similarly, most games have 'a character with that style'. This is why I use this sort of thing to judge/predict people. Even the response you received, to me, just indicates 'NiKr plays more methodically, so maybe Kilik', but Mag doesn't think in the same way as you, literally it's required to not. It's not a matter of 'fault'. In order to SUCCEED at playing Siegfried, you HAVE to 'disregard opposing attacks', you have to be 'willing to make sweeping generalizations', and you have to be 'willing to retreat before making a big attempt at getting into the other person's conceptual space'. Mag is 'fighting correctly' for who Mag is. It's me that hasn't been. Except my main was talim in the last soul calibur lmao.
PenguinPaladin wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » PenguinPaladin wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » This is how I know you don't playing fighting games. -smh- So me saying "I don't play fighting games" tells you that I don't play fighting games? Seems good I mean, its a base line... at least we know if he manages to read something written out he is capable of putting 2 and 2 together. Like others have said, it seems english isnt their first language as they keep ignoring peoples statment purposes, and constantly loops back around to bdo is the best combat example out there. When people don't understand nuance and try to take things literal, and trying to throw a slight on top of it lmao. "Others" Someone assuming something they don't know Yes... we are assuming things we dont know... because geting clear information from you is proving to be impossible. Idk. Im done here, the guy is hard to talk to, so i dont see why to put forth the effort. You like bdo. Good for you. All the rest of this thread is just talking in circles, and misunderstanding.
Azherae wrote: » Sound famililar?
Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » This is how I know you don't playing fighting games. -smh- So me saying "I don't play fighting games" tells you that I don't play fighting games? Seems good And to follow up on that... people end up with entirely different perceptions of what fighting games are ABOUT based on what characters they play, the same as for classes in MMOs. So it would make sense for Mag to conclude 'you don't understand fighting games' when you have that response, because to a Siegfried player that usually is NOT how one plays. And similarly, most games have 'a character with that style'. This is why I use this sort of thing to judge/predict people. Even the response you received, to me, just indicates 'NiKr plays more methodically, so maybe Kilik', but Mag doesn't think in the same way as you, literally it's required to not. It's not a matter of 'fault'. In order to SUCCEED at playing Siegfried, you HAVE to 'disregard opposing attacks', you have to be 'willing to make sweeping generalizations', and you have to be 'willing to retreat before making a big attempt at getting into the other person's conceptual space'. Mag is 'fighting correctly' for who Mag is. It's me that hasn't been. Except my main was talim in the last soul calibur lmao. You're still really annoying, but now at least I don't need to keep ignoring your posts... You're a Siegfried at heart, in my mind. And you're referring to SC6. I'm aware that people have Secondaries. Even your secondary was predictable to an extent.@NiKr the amount of information that has been basically jumpstarted into my brain from watching just TWO of Mag's matches is more than I can reasonably express, but to actually derail into 'I now have analysis' would make this thread so so much worse. I will say this though. And this is incontrovertible and provable. You are talking to a person who plays fighting games by 'trying to overpower the opponent with offense'. Siegfried does it with power and reach, Talim does it by 'constantly poking very quickly, trying to interrupt everything and respond faster with short strikes, and dodging out of the way of opponent moves pre-emptively'. Sound famililar?
Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » This is how I know you don't playing fighting games. -smh- So me saying "I don't play fighting games" tells you that I don't play fighting games? Seems good And to follow up on that... people end up with entirely different perceptions of what fighting games are ABOUT based on what characters they play, the same as for classes in MMOs. So it would make sense for Mag to conclude 'you don't understand fighting games' when you have that response, because to a Siegfried player that usually is NOT how one plays. And similarly, most games have 'a character with that style'. This is why I use this sort of thing to judge/predict people. Even the response you received, to me, just indicates 'NiKr plays more methodically, so maybe Kilik', but Mag doesn't think in the same way as you, literally it's required to not. It's not a matter of 'fault'. In order to SUCCEED at playing Siegfried, you HAVE to 'disregard opposing attacks', you have to be 'willing to make sweeping generalizations', and you have to be 'willing to retreat before making a big attempt at getting into the other person's conceptual space'. Mag is 'fighting correctly' for who Mag is. It's me that hasn't been. Except my main was talim in the last soul calibur lmao. You're still really annoying, but now at least I don't need to keep ignoring your posts... You're a Siegfried at heart, in my mind. And you're referring to SC6. I'm aware that people have Secondaries. Even your secondary was predictable to an extent.@NiKr the amount of information that has been basically jumpstarted into my brain from watching just TWO of Mag's matches is more than I can reasonably express, but to actually derail into 'I now have analysis' would make this thread so so much worse. I will say this though. And this is incontrovertible and provable. You are talking to a person who plays fighting games by 'trying to overpower the opponent with offense'. Siegfried does it with power and reach, Talim does it by 'constantly poking very quickly, trying to interrupt everything and respond faster with short strikes, and dodging out of the way of opponent moves pre-emptively'. Sound famililar? Everyone uses froward pressure its how you win, I don't view myself has overpowering their defense just because I have a giant sword. The moves are very telegraph and if they understand my character they leave opening upon using them. Again better players it is more about using your stance to throw them off and create opening in their attack to exploit. Your fast moves on sieg are pretty important where they don't have much range on them, through using them it helps you control the fight and keep forward pressure off you as your sword moves are slower at the cost of range. Talim is more so ultimate pressure imo with speed, constant attacks and movement to constantly evade attacks and be elusive to take advantage of openings. Though that is more so my experience in the previous soul calibur where she was my main, didn't play her in this one. Hardly had enough time for one character because of bdo and its time sink and disrespect of my time.
