CORRUPTION OPPRESSING THE WORLD; Essence Conduits; UE5 Features

As stated by Sharif and found on the wiki, players are conduits of some Essence stuff from a higher plane.

And there are Corrupted that are some kind of messed up beings that are also conduits of Essence.

https://youtu.be/VntEoWPU-1o?t=900

So why not have the world be a Battle of Worlds?

The more goodie goodie players in a location, the more 'positive' influence on the area. Since players are kind of weak beings compared to corrupted it's not too dramatic; which I like.

The more Corrupted in an area, the darker and more terrible a place it is; and apparently there are all kinds of ESSENCE and the Corrupted are also Conduits of it. . . so there's room for Diablo Flesh Horror Butcher dungeons, Necropolis', Dark Blackened Lands, Infernal, Evil Glowie Poison Mushroom Nature, Sea Evils, all kinds of danger.

Imagine an area with blackened ground; Corrupted grass like a black matte of stiff blade-like fur. Spanning the horizon is darkness wide and high, slow roiling grey black clouds that never disperse and expand their reach wider and wider the higher they go.
Mist and haze obstruct your view of the grounds below, they reach far beyond the clouds; but when direclty under the clouds past the broad veil you clearly see that they hide a dark vortex swirling within them, swirling high into a deep pitch black above.

Just make shit like that part of the world and hurricane like dark clouds swirl where evil shit's grown to mega raid tier. Constant Corruption players have to fight all over;

If any one area is left alone it should scale quickly to 200+. . . 500+. . .. 1000+. . .

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IT can't be contained and there must be constant raiding or GAME OVER when everyone dies and the world is taken over

The corruption should constantly be growing and an ever present threat to All. It should be raiding. It should be able to WIN. GAME OVER.

And if power scale from level 1 - 100 is not too dramatic and level 10s are quite useful, then having your character get DELETED is not too dramatic.

If gear is dropped on death as standard and is mostly crafted then all this "protect the trade", "build up Nodes" stuff is meaningful and creates tension between the world and players.

If you have to whittle away at local problems to reduce their ability to destroy nodes and take over everything while also not provoking a counter-attack [waiting for reinforcements] and you don't have Omniscience or stale scripted meaningless stuff. . . . if you NEED to protect the Node or you lose everything because it's a fortress against the deadly world. . . pretty cool, pretty fun.

But player death should be impactful.
Besides dropping gear. So, how about. . . You lose half your progress.

You always retain half of your progress. But you lose half of it on death.

If you die 10, 000 times in a row you can still make progress; you become ROBUST against the loss of progress.

Example:
You gain 10 levels [Level 11]. You die -> You lose 5 levels [Level 6]. You gain 1 more level [Level 7]. You die -> You lose half a level [Level 6.5].

EDIT: And thinking about it, a flat amount of progress should be lost no matter what (half a level? quarter of a level? 1/8 a level?). And with more deaths, the respawn increases up to some cap; starting at 3 minutes going up to 8 minutes or something after 15 deaths.

Remember that I want level 10 out of 100 to be useful to a level 100 ( or Level 6 out of 60, whatever ). Power shouldn't scale to x100; it should be more like starting at level 20 and reaching Level 100 [5x power gain]. Plate armor should work for anyone with the strength.

Encumberance should be a thing. Literal bags with literal bag space be a thing. 1 man carts. Mules. Most of these are intended but it shouldn't be gamified in a small gamified world; just give things impact and relevance.

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Kovrm

Sapiverenus wrote: »

@Taleof2Cities

Are you saying I'm wrong?

I think all of your ideas so far are pretty terrible.

Sapiverenus wrote: »

You can opt out of a game, don't worry.

Might be something worth looking into there, holmes.

Sathrago

God I miss dislike buttons.

Hinotori

Sathrago wrote: »

God I miss dislike buttons.

@Sathrago

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Please sign this petition.

tautau

Hey Sap,
You have so many ideas that you are so passionate about, why don't you do what Steven is doing and:

Go Make Your Own Game.

If your ideas are really as good as you think they are, then you will gain a loyal following who want to play your game, just like has happened with Stephen. If you are as smart as you seem to think you are, then you should be able to self-fund the development (as Stephen is doing) but you will do better because you can avoid hiring "lazy programmers".

Please post back here when you have your game boards open so we can come see how you are doing and leave our comments.

Thanks and best wishes, TT.

Dygz

tautau said, "Ta-ta...!!"

insomnia

No.

I played NWN on a server with less severe death penalty. I think it was all the xp in your current level, and ½ into the previous level. They wanted people to group... The server was dead, so it was impossible to team up. There is a reason where there are barely any mmo's with such systems. Maybe look into Josh Strifes video on why those mmo's aren't out there. Plus from what i can see, you don't seem to be able to handle anyone disagreeing with you. Plus your posts doesn't get any likes, but people that argue against you does

Scarbeus

Every time I see one of your threads I know it's going to turn into an argument, it makes me wonder if there are mods here that would just lock these threads down when they go off course.

Sapiverenus

tautau wrote: »

Hey Sap,
You have so many ideas that you are so passionate about, why don't you do what Steven is doing and:

Go Make Your Own Game.

If your ideas are really as good as you think they are, then you will gain a loyal following who want to play your game, just like has happened with Stephen. If you are as smart as you seem to think you are, then you should be able to self-fund the development (as Stephen is doing) but you will do better because you can avoid hiring "lazy programmers".

Please post back here when you have your game boards open so we can come see how you are doing and leave our comments.

Thanks and best wishes, TT.

Why would I make a game for people I don't like? Clearly through all this I've found more reasons to not make a game.

And it's not your game it's an individual's.

https://youtu.be/m7-4Dg0YSoo?t=227

Here is a timestamped video of an example Dev team trying to impress with cheaply available tools. You can see what UE5 is capable and the map creation tools available and understand that the world creation is one of easiest parts of Ashes of Creation.
I am guessing, an educated guess, that the real-time biome changing is based on some other people's work though possibly with some competent repurposing of its parts and a few data structures added with maybe some fiddling.

As for Animations:

Here is an animation workflow reference in case it seems arcane to you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi2SCAOuSM8

Another workflow reference but for rigging:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhqEVFbgJUE

The tools available make this very easy for someone familiar with them; the literal physical work required is very very low. The ability of the animation developer [tool user] determines the speed at which it gets done.
As with a previous example: A master artist creates masterpieces in minutes; but it took them a decade or more to learn and costs you a few grand.

Keep in mind animations/ riggings can be used for the basis of other animations/ riggings; meaning you don't start from scratch every time.

It's not certain whether AoC will deliver on any of its promises and I don't inhale copium or whatever so suffer your withdrawls.

insomnia wrote: »

No.

I played NWN on a server with less severe death penalty. I think it was all the xp in your current level, and ½ into the previous level. They wanted people to group... The server was dead, so it was impossible to team up. There is a reason where there are barely any mmo's with such systems. Maybe look into Josh Strifes video on why those mmo's aren't out there. Plus from what i can see, you don't seem to be able to handle anyone disagreeing with you. Plus your posts doesn't get any likes, but people that argue against you does

Sounds aweful. Severe deleveling doesn't work for a game that amounts to "go to X and clear the enemies or sit in town" and has extreme power scaling.
If Level 10 was maybe a third the power of level 100 [gear included] and skill of execution was a greater determinate of outcome; with mitigating XP loss as you die more; and every hour of gameplay was fun due to the gameplay itself rather than the progression --> it would not be an aweful experience.
Never Winter Nights does not compare really.
Most MMOs have the max level at 20x the power of the level 5 or 10 and it's an extreme grind to get there; I abhor such an extreme waste of time.
I do not think max level should be in a realm of its own.

I don't care much about popularity. Most people are isolated, disassociated and poor communicators even though they think otherwise.

Ryozo

nah

Aerlana

Sapiverenus wrote: »

You are saying an enemy faction contradicts the concept of an open world?
?

No, the concept of the open world Ashes of Creation aim, with the nodes being totally in hand of players and nothing else.
Also you add (as most of your ideas if not all) a "survival game" dimension, which is a specific genre of video game, a good one, but this is not at all the genre of ashes, not even slightly.

Sapiverenus

Aerlana wrote: »

Sapiverenus wrote: »

You are saying an enemy faction contradicts the concept of an open world?
?

No, the concept of the open world Ashes of Creation aim, with the nodes being totally in hand of players and nothing else.
Also you add (as most of your ideas if not all) a "survival game" dimension, which is a specific genre of video game, a good one, but this is not at all the genre of ashes, not even slightly.

Why do you say the node is totally in the hand of players? What are seiges to you? You are being assumptuous it seems.
Monsters are already set to attack nodes, with some or all allowing players to participate sure but there is not too much distinction between surviving players and surviving intelligent AI lol.

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