Tab Target

LordBlank

Something like this is not ok

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxW-PlSL22N2HLnRyKOf-XWRyGik-SaDv-

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Ludullu

It is though

LordBlank

If you need the game to auto lock and aim for you then it's time for you to retire from video games and see a doctor about either eyesight issues or carpal tunnel. I'm fine with tab targetting but non of that auto lock for spells bs.

Ludullu

Don't see where the autolock was and tab target games are literally meant to send your spells towards the target that's "tabbed".

What I saw is just him targeting the mob and then using spells that went towards his target. The usual tab target mechanic.

CROW3

Lol…

LordBlank

Nikr the arrows literally curved to the right towards the target when. His character wasn't even facing the same direction.

Ludullu

LordBlank wrote: »

Nikr the arrows literally curved to the right towards the target when. His character wasn't even facing the same direction.

Yeah, just like tab target games do with tab target abilities. The alternative to that is turning your character automatically and then shooting out the ability, but I'd assume that skill just works like that, considering that animation accounted for that situation.

Again, I see nothing wrong with that video, considering it's a tab target ability.

Sapiverenus

I can see some abilities doing that and others requiring aim.

Although. . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZSYh-qIAOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc_z4a00cCQ

LordBlank

NiKr wrote: »

LordBlank wrote: »

Nikr the arrows literally curved to the right towards the target when. His character wasn't even facing the same direction.

Yeah, just like tab target games do with tab target abilities. The alternative to that is turning your character automatically and then shooting out the ability, but I'd assume that skill just works like that, considering that animation accounted for that situation.

Again, I see nothing wrong with that video, considering it's a tab target ability.

I wouldn't mind that so long as it doesn't turn/curve one the shot is taken. The idea of a shot curving while facing a different direction is weird.

LordBlank

Sapiverenus wrote: »

I can see some abilities doing that and others requiring aim.

Although. . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZSYh-qIAOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc_z4a00cCQ

I mean if that's the game we're playing then let's also make action combat trackable

Ludullu

LordBlank wrote: »

I wouldn't mind that so long as it doesn't turn/curve one the shot is taken. The idea of a shot curving while facing a different direction is weird.

You know what else is super weird and unrealistic? Fucking magic. And you know how those projectiles look to me? Fucking magical.

Sapiverenus

@LordBlank
Being able to choose a high risk high reward version of most moves/ abilities would be good.

Game doesn't need 64 classes for 1 niche audience lol. Bard should play Guitaroo Man or some Rhythm game, and Ranger should probably have more FPS/ over-the-shoulder elements to it.
So I mostly agree with you, but Tab target has its place and suits a lot of people.

daveywavey

Sapiverenus wrote: »

Although. . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZSYh-qIAOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc_z4a00cCQ

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, that is fricking AWESOME!

cyanideinsanity

LordBlank wrote: »

If you need the game to auto lock and aim for you then it's time for you to retire from video games and see a doctor about either eyesight issues or carpal tunnel. I'm fine with tab targetting but non of that auto lock for spells bs.

This reminds me of the argument that turn based combat "doesn't make sense" because "characters are just standing around allowing the opponents to hit them". Regardless of opinions its simply a game design. Its like comparing CoD to halo in terms of ttk; neither is better than the other, just a different offering of experience.

Mag7spy

LordBlank wrote: »

Something like this is not ok

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxW-PlSL22N2HLnRyKOf-XWRyGik-SaDv-

agreed, it isn't competitive and can not be balanced for action combat because it removes any element of skill out while you can full sprint from dmg.

Mag7spy

The ranger combat is going to be a big deal for some people, i feel feedback is going to be really important on direction. Basic attacks shouldn't go by tab target but by soft loft.

LordBlank

cyanideinsanity wrote: »

LordBlank wrote: »

If you need the game to auto lock and aim for you then it's time for you to retire from video games and see a doctor about either eyesight issues or carpal tunnel. I'm fine with tab targetting but non of that auto lock for spells bs.

This reminds me of the argument that turn based combat "doesn't make sense" because "characters are just standing around allowing the opponents to hit them". Regardless of opinions its simply a game design. Its like comparing CoD to halo in terms of ttk; neither is better than the other, just a different offering of experience.

That's not really the same as ttk because if you can hit your shots you're good and if you can't then too bad. TTK doesn't auto-aim for you like tab target. A more accurate argument would b complaining about bullet magnetism. Kind of like what destiny 2 does.

LordBlank

Mag7spy wrote: »

The ranger combat is going to be a big deal for some people, i feel feedback is going to be really important on direction. Basic attacks shouldn't go by tab target but by soft loft.

I would be fine with the character turning instead of curving the shot. Which is what they should do naturally. Also once the shot is fired there is no curvature.

Hinotori

I hope all ranged combat is tab target and projectiles work like matrix bullets.

LordBlank

daveywavey wrote: »

Sapiverenus wrote: »

Although. . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZSYh-qIAOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc_z4a00cCQ

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, that is fricking AWESOME!

I won't lie that is cool. If that was one of the archer's active skills instead of a passive ability due to tab targeting then I'm fine with that.

cyanideinsanity

LordBlank wrote: »

That's not really the same as ttk because if you can hit your shots you're good and if you can't then too bad. TTK doesn't auto-aim for you like tab target. A more accurate argument would b complaining about bullet magnetism. Kind of like what destiny 2 does.

The point was its A way of doing things, and that neither of them should never be used in any game whatsoever like you appear to imply. What tab targeted skills and skillshots offer are different things.

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