Noaani wrote: » Sorrowbringer wrote: » BlackBrony wrote: » Sorrowbringer wrote: » Having come from Black Desert, there was this huge issue with "weaker" players griefing you while you were grinding. I don't know how grindy this game will be, probably not as much as black desert but I suppose there will still be some grinding involved. With the corruption system in place we can't just kill that guy that comes into our rotation and disrupts it continuously with the goal of kicking you off said grinding spot. How is one supposed to deal with that? I've had a fair share of such encouters and these people were not generally very keen on speaking and being civil about it. How is this issue going to be handled? How can one defend one's grinding spot? Best regards! Why is it your spot? Do you own the mobs? Did you buy the spot? They have the same right as you to be there. That's what someone who would grief someone else who was already grinding there would say No there's no written rule, however there has been a "grind etiquette" that infers that if you were in a spot first then you are entitled to that spot untill someone comes and requests to duel for it, in which case the winner gets the spot. At least it has been that way in the games that I've played. I have literally never seen that happen. Not in 20 years. I've seen people fight others for a spot, for sure.
Sorrowbringer wrote: » BlackBrony wrote: » Sorrowbringer wrote: » Having come from Black Desert, there was this huge issue with "weaker" players griefing you while you were grinding. I don't know how grindy this game will be, probably not as much as black desert but I suppose there will still be some grinding involved. With the corruption system in place we can't just kill that guy that comes into our rotation and disrupts it continuously with the goal of kicking you off said grinding spot. How is one supposed to deal with that? I've had a fair share of such encouters and these people were not generally very keen on speaking and being civil about it. How is this issue going to be handled? How can one defend one's grinding spot? Best regards! Why is it your spot? Do you own the mobs? Did you buy the spot? They have the same right as you to be there. That's what someone who would grief someone else who was already grinding there would say No there's no written rule, however there has been a "grind etiquette" that infers that if you were in a spot first then you are entitled to that spot untill someone comes and requests to duel for it, in which case the winner gets the spot. At least it has been that way in the games that I've played.
BlackBrony wrote: » Sorrowbringer wrote: » Having come from Black Desert, there was this huge issue with "weaker" players griefing you while you were grinding. I don't know how grindy this game will be, probably not as much as black desert but I suppose there will still be some grinding involved. With the corruption system in place we can't just kill that guy that comes into our rotation and disrupts it continuously with the goal of kicking you off said grinding spot. How is one supposed to deal with that? I've had a fair share of such encouters and these people were not generally very keen on speaking and being civil about it. How is this issue going to be handled? How can one defend one's grinding spot? Best regards! Why is it your spot? Do you own the mobs? Did you buy the spot? They have the same right as you to be there.
Sorrowbringer wrote: » Having come from Black Desert, there was this huge issue with "weaker" players griefing you while you were grinding. I don't know how grindy this game will be, probably not as much as black desert but I suppose there will still be some grinding involved. With the corruption system in place we can't just kill that guy that comes into our rotation and disrupts it continuously with the goal of kicking you off said grinding spot. How is one supposed to deal with that? I've had a fair share of such encouters and these people were not generally very keen on speaking and being civil about it. How is this issue going to be handled? How can one defend one's grinding spot? Best regards!
Calibix wrote: » On paper at least, I think the penalties from killing a person a single time are too harsh. .
Arya_Yeshe wrote: » When land management policies come up then probably people will be able to hunt down gatherers, we don't know yet, but we should push for this: - If a policy against harvesting a certain material is active, then people who gather that thing should be able to do so but should become purple for a minutes That's it, people will saciate their thirst for carebear blood a bit and gankers will finally be seen as the true heroes they are. Gatheres will be able to keep gathering, but they will have to be descreet about it because this window of opportunity. This is my idea, this is true PVX, it merges the friendlyness of PVE and PVP together.
ClintHardwood wrote: » I like this idea. I hope Steven hears of it. If you're stealing protected resources from a neighboring node, you should at least turn purple.
Mag7spy wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Sorrowbringer wrote: » BlackBrony wrote: » Sorrowbringer wrote: » Having come from Black Desert, there was this huge issue with "weaker" players griefing you while you were grinding. I don't know how grindy this game will be, probably not as much as black desert but I suppose there will still be some grinding involved. With the corruption system in place we can't just kill that guy that comes into our rotation and disrupts it continuously with the goal of kicking you off said grinding spot. How is one supposed to deal with that? I've had a fair share of such encouters and these people were not generally very keen on speaking and being civil about it. How is this issue going to be handled? How can one defend one's grinding spot? Best regards! Why is it your spot? Do you own the mobs? Did you buy the spot? They have the same right as you to be there. That's what someone who would grief someone else who was already grinding there would say No there's no written rule, however there has been a "grind etiquette" that infers that if you were in a spot first then you are entitled to that spot untill someone comes and requests to duel for it, in which case the winner gets the spot. At least it has been that way in the games that I've played. I have literally never seen that happen. Not in 20 years. I've seen people fight others for a spot, for sure. This is extremely common in BDO, if you are in a spot and someone comes you duel for spot so you don't end up wasting loot scrolls and other buffs.
Frostywombat wrote: » In the wiki it states military nodes would have less corruption so there’s another variable to tweak.
Noaani wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Sorrowbringer wrote: » BlackBrony wrote: » Sorrowbringer wrote: » Having come from Black Desert, there was this huge issue with "weaker" players griefing you while you were grinding. I don't know how grindy this game will be, probably not as much as black desert but I suppose there will still be some grinding involved. With the corruption system in place we can't just kill that guy that comes into our rotation and disrupts it continuously with the goal of kicking you off said grinding spot. How is one supposed to deal with that? I've had a fair share of such encouters and these people were not generally very keen on speaking and being civil about it. How is this issue going to be handled? How can one defend one's grinding spot? Best regards! Why is it your spot? Do you own the mobs? Did you buy the spot? They have the same right as you to be there. That's what someone who would grief someone else who was already grinding there would say No there's no written rule, however there has been a "grind etiquette" that infers that if you were in a spot first then you are entitled to that spot untill someone comes and requests to duel for it, in which case the winner gets the spot. At least it has been that way in the games that I've played. I have literally never seen that happen. Not in 20 years. I've seen people fight others for a spot, for sure. This is extremely common in BDO, if you are in a spot and someone comes you duel for spot so you don't end up wasting loot scrolls and other buffs. Literally didnt see it at all on my time in that game. I did, however, fight people for spots.
Mag7spy wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Noaani wrote: » Sorrowbringer wrote: » BlackBrony wrote: » Sorrowbringer wrote: » Having come from Black Desert, there was this huge issue with "weaker" players griefing you while you were grinding. I don't know how grindy this game will be, probably not as much as black desert but I suppose there will still be some grinding involved. With the corruption system in place we can't just kill that guy that comes into our rotation and disrupts it continuously with the goal of kicking you off said grinding spot. How is one supposed to deal with that? I've had a fair share of such encouters and these people were not generally very keen on speaking and being civil about it. How is this issue going to be handled? How can one defend one's grinding spot? Best regards! Why is it your spot? Do you own the mobs? Did you buy the spot? They have the same right as you to be there. That's what someone who would grief someone else who was already grinding there would say No there's no written rule, however there has been a "grind etiquette" that infers that if you were in a spot first then you are entitled to that spot untill someone comes and requests to duel for it, in which case the winner gets the spot. At least it has been that way in the games that I've played. I have literally never seen that happen. Not in 20 years. I've seen people fight others for a spot, for sure. This is extremely common in BDO, if you are in a spot and someone comes you duel for spot so you don't end up wasting loot scrolls and other buffs. Literally didnt see it at all on my time in that game. I did, however, fight people for spots. You should have seen it if you were in competitive spots, and were competitive in pvp. Like it is literarily impossible not to see it. So you either did not get to a high point in the game or you quit very early on in the game.
Depraved wrote: » BlackBrony wrote: » Depraved wrote: » BlackBrony wrote: » Sorrowbringer wrote: » Having come from Black Desert, there was this huge issue with "weaker" players griefing you while you were grinding. I don't know how grindy this game will be, probably not as much as black desert but I suppose there will still be some grinding involved. With the corruption system in place we can't just kill that guy that comes into our rotation and disrupts it continuously with the goal of kicking you off said grinding spot. How is one supposed to deal with that? I've had a fair share of such encouters and these people were not generally very keen on speaking and being civil about it. How is this issue going to be handled? How can one defend one's grinding spot? Best regards! Why is it your spot? Do you own the mobs? Did you buy the spot? They have the same right as you to be there. yeah but if there are more spots, why do they have to come to where you are? Why does that apply to the late comer and not you that are there from the start? If there are other spots why don't YOU leave? you are arguing for the sake of arguing. but ok ill play along. lets say im farming in area, alone, theres 5 spots and they al have the same mobs. 1 is occupied by me and the other 4 are empty. some dude comes to the area and start killing mobs where i am killing them. ill leave and go to one of the other spots, then he follows me and starts killing in the new spot as well. then i leave again and he follows me and repeats. isnt that griefing?
BlackBrony wrote: » Depraved wrote: » BlackBrony wrote: » Sorrowbringer wrote: » Having come from Black Desert, there was this huge issue with "weaker" players griefing you while you were grinding. I don't know how grindy this game will be, probably not as much as black desert but I suppose there will still be some grinding involved. With the corruption system in place we can't just kill that guy that comes into our rotation and disrupts it continuously with the goal of kicking you off said grinding spot. How is one supposed to deal with that? I've had a fair share of such encouters and these people were not generally very keen on speaking and being civil about it. How is this issue going to be handled? How can one defend one's grinding spot? Best regards! Why is it your spot? Do you own the mobs? Did you buy the spot? They have the same right as you to be there. yeah but if there are more spots, why do they have to come to where you are? Why does that apply to the late comer and not you that are there from the start? If there are other spots why don't YOU leave?
Depraved wrote: » BlackBrony wrote: » Sorrowbringer wrote: » Having come from Black Desert, there was this huge issue with "weaker" players griefing you while you were grinding. I don't know how grindy this game will be, probably not as much as black desert but I suppose there will still be some grinding involved. With the corruption system in place we can't just kill that guy that comes into our rotation and disrupts it continuously with the goal of kicking you off said grinding spot. How is one supposed to deal with that? I've had a fair share of such encouters and these people were not generally very keen on speaking and being civil about it. How is this issue going to be handled? How can one defend one's grinding spot? Best regards! Why is it your spot? Do you own the mobs? Did you buy the spot? They have the same right as you to be there. yeah but if there are more spots, why do they have to come to where you are?
BlackBrony wrote: » Depraved wrote: » BlackBrony wrote: » Depraved wrote: » BlackBrony wrote: » Sorrowbringer wrote: » Having come from Black Desert, there was this huge issue with "weaker" players griefing you while you were grinding. I don't know how grindy this game will be, probably not as much as black desert but I suppose there will still be some grinding involved. With the corruption system in place we can't just kill that guy that comes into our rotation and disrupts it continuously with the goal of kicking you off said grinding spot. How is one supposed to deal with that? I've had a fair share of such encouters and these people were not generally very keen on speaking and being civil about it. How is this issue going to be handled? How can one defend one's grinding spot? Best regards! Why is it your spot? Do you own the mobs? Did you buy the spot? They have the same right as you to be there. yeah but if there are more spots, why do they have to come to where you are? Why does that apply to the late comer and not you that are there from the start? If there are other spots why don't YOU leave? you are arguing for the sake of arguing. but ok ill play along. lets say im farming in area, alone, theres 5 spots and they al have the same mobs. 1 is occupied by me and the other 4 are empty. some dude comes to the area and start killing mobs where i am killing them. ill leave and go to one of the other spots, then he follows me and starts killing in the new spot as well. then i leave again and he follows me and repeats. isnt that griefing? Maybe they're trying to pick up a fight? You endlessly killing mobs has an effect. If you cash in your certs in the closest node you lower the price for everybody else. Farming certs is making other people earn less gold. So maybe the """griefer""" is trying to make you stop, slow down your farming, pick up a fight to create drama/war or trying to make you engage in PvP so he can kill you and get your certs. He's not just griefing, he might have additional things in mind. Once again people think only about themselves. It seems people can't think of the ramifications of their actions. Your actions have impact on others.
