Alpha-2 Progression?

This is a question that I'm hoping that can be answered. With the wiki saying that when Alpha-2 comes out we will be able to play until launch (hoping this is true) and my question is players that play during Alpha-2 will we be keeping our progress into launch and if so how much progression will we keep?

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Ludullu

None.

Morg7x7

You wont even keep your progress on the alpha server because wipes and resets will be a thing.

Scarbeus

If A2 lasts all the way up to games release then what's with the Beta? Surely the game would move from an Alpha phase then into a Beta phase?

Ludullu

Scarbeus wrote: »

If A2 lasts all the way up to games release then what's with the Beta? Surely the game would move from an Alpha phase then into a Beta phase?

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-2#Persistent_alpha

Scarbeus

Yeah I read that already, I'm just wondering why there's an Alpha all the way up to launch but also Betas. Typically there's an Alpha phase which will then end then a Beta phase and then launch. That means at some point there will be both Alpha and Beta servers running at the same time right? Seems odd.

Ludullu

Scarbeus wrote: »

Yeah I read that already, I'm just wondering why there's an Alpha all the way up to launch but also Betas. Typically there's an Alpha phase which will then end then a Beta phase and then launch. That means at some point there will be both Alpha and Beta servers running at the same time right? Seems odd.

Beta is for stress testing mainly. Alphas are for deep function testing and balancing. At least from what I've heard/seen about them.

Artharion

No progression will be saved before the launch, no matter if we're talking about Alpha-2, Beta-1 and Beta-2. Once the game launches, everyone will start from 0.

Dygz

Betas are feature-complete are primarily for bug testing.
Alphas, features are still being implemented.

Aerlana

in MMORPG, an Alpha or a Beta shouldn't allow to keep "progress" into the release
the release should be fresh for all. (a few days EA for pre-buy is not the same thing)

ALpha/beta are test period, where farm is sometime harder of what will be, sometime easier.
But also, are often closed/limited, not all can get in... it would be an unfair advantage to keep anykind of progress...

People doing those alpha/beta have ALREADY a bonus for the release : their knowledge.
No guide; no youtube video can gives more efficient knowledge for a fresh game than playing it before other people...

Asgerr

Simple as this:

Keeping your character progress from Alpha or Beta into launch is literally P2W since you need to buy the Alpha and Beta keys.

And Steven is very adamant against P2W. They won't allow it. And if they do, we can start seeing some writing starting to bleed in on the wall

SongRune

Can we drop this terrible conversation direction now?

Baltan

No and I won't want to keep my character anyway, alpha is for testing, catching bugs, and feedback, it's for experimenting and pretty much seeing if you can break your character/the game/whatever you're doing in game so intrepid can reeeaally make sure stuffs as good/bug free as possible

EdH

If you are allowed to keep progress then that is basically pay to win. and in this game there is NO PAY TO WIN.

Naugrimur

Morg7x7 wrote: »

You wont even keep your progress on the alpha server because wipes and resets will be a thing.

Do you know what happens to the ingame currency if we are able to spend it during the Alpha? Will it be returned when going live after wipe?

Depraved

Scarbeus wrote: »

Yeah I read that already, I'm just wondering why there's an Alpha all the way up to launch but also Betas. Typically there's an Alpha phase which will then end then a Beta phase and then launch. That means at some point there will be both Alpha and Beta servers running at the same time right? Seems odd.

no lol. first alhpa, then after it ends, a beta, then release

unknownsystemerror

Naugrimur wrote: »

Morg7x7 wrote: »

You wont even keep your progress on the alpha server because wipes and resets will be a thing.

Do you know what happens to the ingame currency if we are able to spend it during the Alpha? Will it be returned when going live after wipe?

They have stated a few times that the Embers that you receive with some packages will be available after launch. So you will not have anything that you paid for to spend in testing. There may be cosmetic and other option testing during those phases, but they won't be coming out of your "balance" so no need to refund. If you meant the actual currency in game like gold and such, nothing transfers over to live.

Depraved wrote: »

Scarbeus wrote: »

Yeah I read that already, I'm just wondering why there's an Alpha all the way up to launch but also Betas. Typically there's an Alpha phase which will then end then a Beta phase and then launch. That means at some point there will be both Alpha and Beta servers running at the same time right? Seems odd.

no lol. first alhpa, then after it ends, a beta, then release

Nope, the A2 client will run concurrently with the beta servers from last plans given.

Vaknar

It looks like many people have answered the question for you

But to reiterate, it is highly unlikely that any Alpha Two progression will carry over to launch

Depraved

unknownsystemerror wrote: »

Naugrimur wrote: »

Morg7x7 wrote: »

You wont even keep your progress on the alpha server because wipes and resets will be a thing.

Do you know what happens to the ingame currency if we are able to spend it during the Alpha? Will it be returned when going live after wipe?

They have stated a few times that the Embers that you receive with some packages will be available after launch. So you will not have anything that you paid for to spend in testing. There may be cosmetic and other option testing during those phases, but they won't be coming out of your "balance" so no need to refund. If you meant the actual currency in game like gold and such, nothing transfers over to live.

Depraved wrote: »

Scarbeus wrote: »

Yeah I read that already, I'm just wondering why there's an Alpha all the way up to launch but also Betas. Typically there's an Alpha phase which will then end then a Beta phase and then launch. That means at some point there will be both Alpha and Beta servers running at the same time right? Seems odd.

no lol. first alhpa, then after it ends, a beta, then release

Nope, the A2 client will run concurrently with the beta servers from last plans given.

no. the alpha server will become the PTS .-.

Atama

Asgerr wrote: »

Simple as this:

Keeping your character progress from Alpha or Beta into launch is literally P2W since you need to buy the Alpha and Beta keys.

And Steven is very adamant against P2W. They won't allow it. And if they do, we can start seeing some writing starting to bleed in on the wall

Based on that logic, early start (that you pay for) is P2W.

And maybe that’s true but it’s only a day or two if progress.

Radiglaz

Not only will your Alpha 2 progression not carry over onto launch servers, you will most likely experience several wipes throughout alpha 2 for bigger patches that might change the fundamentals etc.
Dont trust me on that though

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