Being able to sell freeholds will invite an unnecessary amount of rmt and cheating

because theres now a huge incentive and opportunity to make big cash, you can have the best gms and anti cheat there is and it wont deal with it, because by the time its caught they already made their money, its how this stuff works. this whole system will just invite a lot of contempt and scumminess, i hope the design decision will be reversed, its something that might sound cool to someone in theory, but what ends up actually happening sucks giga hard, i dont wanna have to experience irl housing crisis and real estate market bullshit in a video game that i try to escape reality from, and i also dont wanna get fucked over by 张伟 or Иван because the money they can make on this is several years worth of the average salary

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Taleof2Cities

I’d hold off on slippery slope accusations until we’re able to test freeholds in Alpha-2 and beyond, @Freya.

Depraved

yeah rmt is wrong, but can you please explain how me buying a fh with rmt affects u? if you have ur fh, it doesn't. and if u don't have it, then it doesn't, because you don't have it anyways. its the same as someone else buying it with in game gold. you still wont be able to get it. another player will get it.

Mag7spy

So what about RMT for everything else in the game that is tradeable, it only matters when it is freeholds now lol?

Freya

Depraved wrote: »

yeah rmt is wrong, but can you please explain how me buying a fh with rmt affects u? if you have ur fh, it doesn't. and if u don't have it, then it doesn't, because you don't have it anyways. its the same as someone else buying it with in game gold. you still wont be able to get it. another player will get it.

imagine defending rmt - the biggest source of cheating in gaming

theres just no way you can not see how this doesnt affect me or anyone for that matter

Depraved

Freya wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

yeah rmt is wrong, but can you please explain how me buying a fh with rmt affects u? if you have ur fh, it doesn't. and if u don't have it, then it doesn't, because you don't have it anyways. its the same as someone else buying it with in game gold. you still wont be able to get it. another player will get it.

imagine defending rmt - the biggest source of cheating in gaming

theres just no way you can not see how this doesnt affect me or anyone for that matter

id understand rmting gear, but rmting a freehold lol

Veeshan

imagine being a whale and buying a freehold only to loose it the following week due to a node war

Depraved

xDDDDDDD

Freya

Veeshan wrote: »

imagine being a whale and buying a freehold only to loose it the following week due to a node war

this would be another solution, simply make it easier to loose them, previously it was said you just have to do a quest to keep it, but if freeholds are easier to get rid off either by loosing the node or by sacking it, it would reduce the desirability for it via rmt if you cant hold it

Depraved

Freya wrote: »

Veeshan wrote: »

imagine being a whale and buying a freehold only to loose it the following week due to a node war

this would be another solution, simply make it easier to loose them, previously it was said you just have to do a quest to keep it, but if freeholds are easier to get rid off either by loosing the node or by sacking it, it would reduce the desirability for it via rmt if you cant hold it

nah ppl will rmt to hire ppl to defend his fh xDD

Veeshan

Freya wrote: »

Veeshan wrote: »

imagine being a whale and buying a freehold only to loose it the following week due to a node war

this would be another solution, simply make it easier to loose them, previously it was said you just have to do a quest to keep it, but if freeholds are easier to get rid off either by loosing the node or by sacking it, it would reduce the desirability for it via rmt if you cant hold it

from my understanding if a node looses the node war all freehold become vunerable for x hours to be destroy if there not sucessfully defended this was to add incentives for freehold owners to defend the node there appart of.

Songcaller

We could sell a freehold originally much like you could sell other housing. Then we couldn't sell freeholds and now we can again. The only issue I see is the uturns we receive after a lot of merchandise is sold.

Raven016

Neurath wrote: »

We could sell a freehold originally much like you could sell other housing. Then we couldn't sell freeholds and now we can again. The only issue I see is the uturns we receive after a lot of merchandise is sold.

Would you mind if beside merchandise, we could also buy freehold spots?
I wouldn't because I bought previously expansions which unlock level caps and access to more content in game.
The difference is that the expansion I bought only once while the freehold spots I might lose after sieges.
But even that, if it happens rarely enough, is just like an added increase to the monthly subscription and might be cheaper than buying on RMT or safer.

Songcaller

Raven016 wrote: »

Neurath wrote: »

We could sell a freehold originally much like you could sell other housing. Then we couldn't sell freeholds and now we can again. The only issue I see is the uturns we receive after a lot of merchandise is sold.

Would you mind if beside merchandise, we could also buy freehold spots?
I wouldn't because I bought previously expansions which unlock level caps and access to more content in game.
The difference is that the expansion I bought only once while the freehold spots I might lose after sieges.
But even that, if it happens rarely enough, is just like an added increase to the monthly subscription and might be cheaper than buying on RMT or safer.

No. I wouldn't want to purchase Freeholds with real money. Freeholds can be destroyed/taken/lost so I don't think the practice would be above board.

Mag7spy

Depraved wrote: »

Freya wrote: »

Veeshan wrote: »

imagine being a whale and buying a freehold only to loose it the following week due to a node war

this would be another solution, simply make it easier to loose them, previously it was said you just have to do a quest to keep it, but if freeholds are easier to get rid off either by loosing the node or by sacking it, it would reduce the desirability for it via rmt if you cant hold it

nah ppl will rmt to hire ppl to defend his fh xDD

You aren't thinking big brain enough. They going to RMT so the guild throws the war and loses so the node doesn't' get destroyed and can't destroy freeholds in return. ^_~

Depraved

Mag7spy wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

Freya wrote: »

Veeshan wrote: »

imagine being a whale and buying a freehold only to loose it the following week due to a node war

this would be another solution, simply make it easier to loose them, previously it was said you just have to do a quest to keep it, but if freeholds are easier to get rid off either by loosing the node or by sacking it, it would reduce the desirability for it via rmt if you cant hold it

nah ppl will rmt to hire ppl to defend his fh xDD

You aren't thinking big brain enough. They going to RMT so the guild throws the war and loses so the node doesn't' get destroyed and can't destroy freeholds in return. ^_~

slaaaaaaayyyyyyy

Ludullu

Veeshan wrote: »

from my understanding if a node looses the node war all freehold become vunerable for x hours to be destroy if there not sucessfully defended this was to add incentives for freehold owners to defend the node there appart of.

Just to clarify, the node would have to lose a node siege, not a node war.

Taleof2Cities

NiKr wrote: »

Veeshan wrote: »

from my understanding if a node looses the node war all freehold become vunerable for x hours to be destroy if there not sucessfully defended this was to add incentives for freehold owners to defend the node there appart of.

Just to clarify, the node would have to lose a node siege, not a node war.

Yep.

The trend in the forums lately is players prefer to overlook the fact that freeholds aren’t permanent.

Mag7spy

Depraved wrote: »

Mag7spy wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

Freya wrote: »

Veeshan wrote: »

imagine being a whale and buying a freehold only to loose it the following week due to a node war

this would be another solution, simply make it easier to loose them, previously it was said you just have to do a quest to keep it, but if freeholds are easier to get rid off either by loosing the node or by sacking it, it would reduce the desirability for it via rmt if you cant hold it

nah ppl will rmt to hire ppl to defend his fh xDD

You aren't thinking big brain enough. They going to RMT so the guild throws the war and loses so the node doesn't' get destroyed and can't destroy freeholds in return. ^_~

slaaaaaaayyyyyyy

Though not exactly RMT (people bought gold on NW like crazy) this actually happened in new world. People were buying people off to not do wars or throw them lol. Going to be a different game when you get to sieges in AoC.

PherPhur

Depraved wrote: »

yeah rmt is wrong, but can you please explain how me buying a fh with rmt affects u? if you have ur fh, it doesn't. and if u don't have it, then it doesn't, because you don't have it anyways. its the same as someone else buying it with in game gold. you still wont be able to get it. another player will get it.

L take. It effects not just him but every one of us because it encourages no name non English speaking gold farmers to crowd the world and resources, it encourages other people who are competitive to RMT because they're getting "out-played" and not use the systems in place to acquire currency which keeps the world alive. Which you do as well.

It also depletes the limited supply of freeholds from honest hard working equal starting players like us. MMOs are suppose to be an equal start for everyone, where everyone's on the same footing, it doesn't matter if you got some genetic condition that causes your skin to look like tree bark, you have the opportunity to look like everyone else, get the same things with the same amount of effort, ect. Doesn't matter if you were born with MS, autism, planter fascitis(sp?), ect ect ect and disabled, you start with the same amount of currency with the same abilities to achieve things in game.

It's an attempt at a better world. $%&# all that RMT crap, consuming perfectly able bodied talent by corporate investors to build games with RMT built in because of people like you make that stuff lucrative. Literal cancer on this world. Worse than that, corrupting something sacred to so many.

Besides, it's wrong and you know it, it's literally against the rules.

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