Since freeholds will be very limited how will that affect farmers?

I know I will be a very casual player, so I don't see myself being rich enough to own a freehold any time soon. I don't mind not being able to have flying mounts or owning a castle, but since plots of land will be very limited How are people who want to be farmers supposed to farm and level up farming skills in Verra?

Because I might be wrong, but I think instance apartments are more like rooms in an Inn where you can sleep and place furniture, but not actual land to have a farm or raise lifestock.

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Songcaller

You should join a guild and become a farmer on a guild plot. You're lucky that farms are considered processing so guilds should be keen to provide space for farmers.

Noaani

I don't really see this aspect of freehold ownership affecting people that want to play a game mostly to farm.

Honestly, I don't see how anyone would think that it could. I mean, obviously players that want to play a game mostly to farm will be playing a game that allows that, and this is not Ashes.

Kionashi

Neurath wrote: »

You should join a guild and become a farmer on a guild plot. You're lucky that farms are considered processing so guilds should be keen to provide space for farmers.

so guilds have special plots of land they can own and let their member use?
or you mean guilds will be able to afford to buy freeholds and then let members of the guild use it to farm?

While the first point is...a solution, I don't think, again , considering how rare freeholds will be, that an 100+ members guild will need that many farmers. I can totally see all major guilds have their dedicated farmers already

Depraved

well, people who get the freeholds will still be able to farm...if its not bob, its tom

Kionashi

Noaani wrote: »

I don't really see this aspect of freehold ownership affecting people that want to play a game mostly to farm.

Honestly, I don't see how anyone would think that it could. I mean, obviously players that want to play a game mostly to farm will be playing a game that allows that, and this is not Ashes.

Im not saying I only want to farm in Ashes, of course, want to go to dungeons, joing guilds and do most MMO stuff, but I also want to have a farm like in any other MMO XD I just don't understand why make a basic artisan path so exclusive.

Depraved

Kionashi wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

I don't really see this aspect of freehold ownership affecting people that want to play a game mostly to farm.

Honestly, I don't see how anyone would think that it could. I mean, obviously players that want to play a game mostly to farm will be playing a game that allows that, and this is not Ashes.

Im not saying I only want to farm in Ashes, of course, want to go to dungeons, joing guilds and do most MMO stuff, but I also want to have a farm like in any other MMO XD I just don't understand why make a basic artisan path so exclusive.

competition ;3

Nerror

Farming tomatoes should only be for the most hardcore players in the most sweaty guilds. Makes sense to me.

Depraved

Nerror wrote: »

Farming tomatoes should only be for the most hardcore players in the most sweaty guilds. Makes sense to me.

same as clicking a mob and pressing 111

its not about farming the tomatoes, its about what you need to get there. also, for the same reason you don't want players buried in an instance dungeon 24/7 on repeat, you don't want people farming tomatoes 24/7 on repeat.

Noaani

Depraved wrote: »

Kionashi wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

I don't really see this aspect of freehold ownership affecting people that want to play a game mostly to farm.

Honestly, I don't see how anyone would think that it could. I mean, obviously players that want to play a game mostly to farm will be playing a game that allows that, and this is not Ashes.

Im not saying I only want to farm in Ashes, of course, want to go to dungeons, joing guilds and do most MMO stuff, but I also want to have a farm like in any other MMO XD I just don't understand why make a basic artisan path so exclusive.

competition ;3

The problem is, there is too much of this in Ashes.

There needs to be some valid content in the game that takes place before competition. Otherwise, how are players supposed to get themselves ready for that competition? If they lose the first competition, how are they supposed to progress to have a better shot next time?

Depraved

Noaani wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

Kionashi wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

I don't really see this aspect of freehold ownership affecting people that want to play a game mostly to farm.

Honestly, I don't see how anyone would think that it could. I mean, obviously players that want to play a game mostly to farm will be playing a game that allows that, and this is not Ashes.

Im not saying I only want to farm in Ashes, of course, want to go to dungeons, joing guilds and do most MMO stuff, but I also want to have a farm like in any other MMO XD I just don't understand why make a basic artisan path so exclusive.

competition ;3

The problem is, there is too much of this in Ashes.

There needs to be some valid content in the game that takes place before competition. Otherwise, how are players supposed to get themselves ready for that competition? If they lose the first competition, how are they supposed to progress to have a better shot next time?

players start competing at level 1

according to steven, there will be enough activities to do that people wont be able to complete them all in a single day. so while you might lose in activity A, you might win in activity B.

, also, cooperate with your allies? remember that if you are in rags, your enemies are in rags too. if they win 1 battle, they wont automatically have everyone in the best gear possible. they might just get enough for 1-few players. alpha 2 will tell.

you would need to lose away too many times, and in such case, you can always fight on the other side of the map and come back when you are stronger. you also have the possibility to ally with more players.

Songcaller

It's a case of if you don't play at the start, you won't be playing at the end.

Kionashi

Depraved wrote: »

Kionashi wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

I don't really see this aspect of freehold ownership affecting people that want to play a game mostly to farm.

Honestly, I don't see how anyone would think that it could. I mean, obviously players that want to play a game mostly to farm will be playing a game that allows that, and this is not Ashes.

Im not saying I only want to farm in Ashes, of course, want to go to dungeons, joing guilds and do most MMO stuff, but I also want to have a farm like in any other MMO XD I just don't understand why make a basic artisan path so exclusive.

competition ;3

I don't mind competing for the right to make the highest tier gear...but competing for the privilege of planting tomatoes? it just does not seem right to me.

Songcaller

There would be competition in selling the tomatoes though.

Depraved

Kionashi wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

Kionashi wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

I don't really see this aspect of freehold ownership affecting people that want to play a game mostly to farm.

Honestly, I don't see how anyone would think that it could. I mean, obviously players that want to play a game mostly to farm will be playing a game that allows that, and this is not Ashes.

Im not saying I only want to farm in Ashes, of course, want to go to dungeons, joing guilds and do most MMO stuff, but I also want to have a farm like in any other MMO XD I just don't understand why make a basic artisan path so exclusive.

competition ;3

I don't mind competing for the right to make the highest tier gear...but competing for the privilege of planting tomatoes? it just does not seem right to me.

what if you didn't go to farming school,w hy should u plant tomatoes when you don't even know how to farm them properly. your seeds wont grow xDD

ok being serious, its not about the tomatoes, its about everything that you need to get there, and the consequences those tomatoes will have on the server.

Kionashi

Depraved wrote: »

Kionashi wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

Kionashi wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

I don't really see this aspect of freehold ownership affecting people that want to play a game mostly to farm.

Honestly, I don't see how anyone would think that it could. I mean, obviously players that want to play a game mostly to farm will be playing a game that allows that, and this is not Ashes.

Im not saying I only want to farm in Ashes, of course, want to go to dungeons, joing guilds and do most MMO stuff, but I also want to have a farm like in any other MMO XD I just don't understand why make a basic artisan path so exclusive.

competition ;3

I don't mind competing for the right to make the highest tier gear...but competing for the privilege of planting tomatoes? it just does not seem right to me.

what if you didn't go to farming school,w hy should u plant tomatoes when you don't even know how to farm them properly. your seeds wont grow xDD

ok being serious, its not about the tomatoes, its about everything that you need to get there, and the consequences those tomatoes will have on the server.

Is not important if you can use tomatoes to make a world boss tier tomato armor. Again I think is fine if the sweatiest people are the only ones to have access to the tomato armor. I don't mind only being able to plant corn and make low tier corn armor.Because what I really want is the farming experience.

In my opinion all players should be able to experience every system without any mayor hurdle. Now in order to have the highest tier items, you should need to work hard for it of course. but let's not gatekeep the base experience.

tautau

Nodes allow you to build houses in the node (separate from the instanced apartments) and these houses will have yards where you can grow corn and tomatoes and other things.
They are not as big as freeholds, but are options.

Noaani

Depraved wrote: »

players start competing at level 1

As a game design paradigm, this ceases to function after day 1.

Constant competition is not actually a good thing. It is tiring. It will lead to player burnout in hours or days rather than weeks or months.

Ludullu

What tauttau said is right, but that housing will be even rarer than freeholds.

But Steven has said that basic processing (which includes farming) will be doable in nodes

Kionashi

tautau wrote: »

Nodes allow you to build houses in the node (separate from the instanced apartments) and these houses will have yards where you can grow corn and tomatoes and other things.
They are not as big as freeholds, but are options.

as long is not as hard to get a house in node It could actually work.

Veeshan

Kionashi wrote: »

tautau wrote: »

Nodes allow you to build houses in the node (separate from the instanced apartments) and these houses will have yards where you can grow corn and tomatoes and other things.
They are not as big as freeholds, but are options.

as long is not as hard to get a house in node It could actually work.

houses are hard but instance apartments seem easy enough to aquire

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