Do people fearmonger too much about proximity voice chat?

I mean, all the time, when the topic is brought up, people jump to complain that everybody will be screaming the n-word all the time, kids will be making weird noises with shitty mics, or guys will blast crappy hip hop 24/7 in the main plaza.

It makes me believe allowing that option will turn AoC in a call of duty lobby or something like that. Something like hell on earth.

Now would that really be the case though?

Im aware Im speaking from ignorance since I haven't played a game with open mic before, but I want to believe that kind of players will be few a far between, and with easy tools to mute annoying players it shouldn't be a mayor issue. Like yeah... you might find someone who annoys you from time to time, but I think the ease to talk with random people you find in the wild will open new avenues to socialize and make friends inside the game, and I think that would be potentially a pretty amazing experience.

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Ayeveegaming1

Meztopheles wrote: »

Wish I had enough faith in players to think this was a good idea, but really don't. Open to testing so long as there is a universal mute option. Too many players in one place pretty well ensures that there will be obnoxious noises that will overbear any genuine utility or fun which could otherwise be had. Would love to be wrong though.

yep, people with hot microphones, mouth breathers, children screaming in the background, loud music playing, people yelling about how this guy is a cheater and others crying about other real world problems not suitable for the game. Please no.

Raven016

Voice chat is good. Would help figure out if you can trust others or not and find similar minded players easier.
Also you will recognize players even if they change alts and accounts. If they lose their reputation, they will not enter in guilds anymore.
And surprisingly people are more polite when they speak than when they write in chat.

daveywavey

At least in this game we'll have the option of killing the toxic voice-chatters or those who just play music through their voice comms. Vote with your weapon!

Liniker

does anyone know a game with voice chat that didn't have the option to turn it off or mute other players?

I see people saying "I dont want it because people are loud" or "as long as I can turn it off" all the time,

but to me this is strange, it's like saying "I don't want music in the game" - when in every game you can simply turn it down/off lol

Dygz

If I turn the proximity chat off. It will always be off.
I haven't ever experienced good proximity chat.
I have experienced great music.

Dolyem

I love proximity chat, but unfortunately I just see it being a disaster. Last thing I need is to hear someone say they'll k**l my family just because I ganked them.

DrDefault

Proximity chat is great and if people act toxic just whisper a gm, they’re going to be active in the game. So, I don’t see it as a nonissue if they implement proximity chat.

Noaani

DrDefault wrote: »

Proximity chat is great and if people act toxic just whisper a gm, they’re going to be active in the game. So, I don’t see it as a nonissue if they implement proximity chat.

In a game like Ashes, toxicity isnt against the rules.

DrDefault

Noaani wrote: »

DrDefault wrote: »

Proximity chat is great and if people act toxic just whisper a gm, they’re going to be active in the game. So, I don’t see it as a nonissue if they implement proximity chat.

In a game like Ashes, toxicity isnt against the rules.

That’s good then, I think toxicity is pretty healthy for a gaming community that’s pvp centric. I really can’t stand the false positivity that people try to push online because it’s bullshit anyways.

Depraved

Dolyem wrote: »

I love proximity chat, but unfortunately I just see it being a disaster. Last thing I need is to hear someone say they'll k**l my family just because I ganked them.

just tell them u mad bro? XDD

superhero6785

I think Ashes should be an industry leader in community moderation tools. Having the ability to mute & submit feedback on a player, and then having intelligent systems to automatically apply similar actions for those who opt in.

So, let's say someone is blasting music through proxy chat:
-20 nearby players all mute the offending player for "proxy chat spam" within a timeframe.
-System flags user as a spammer.
-Settings have options to auto mute proxy chat spammers for a configurable duration.
-Similar settings for global chat spammers, auto-deny friend/trade requests, auto block private messages, etc.

We can have nice things if we also have the tools to effectively moderate it ourselves. It will only be a problem temporarily until these "bad apples" are eventually just moderated into a single player experience because they lack the social nicities to play with others.

Depraved

no auto ban or auto punishments please. that will just lead to people mass reporting players who haven't done anything wrong to get rid of them.

Solvryn

Kionashi wrote: »

I mean, all the time, when the topic is brought up, people jump to complain that everybody will be screaming the n-word all the time, kids will be making weird noises with shitty mics, or guys will blast crappy hip hop 24/7 in the main plaza.

It makes me believe allowing that option will turn AoC in a call of duty lobby or something like that. Something like hell on earth.

Now would that really be the case though?

Im aware Im speaking from ignorance since I haven't played a game with open mic before, but I want to believe that kind of players will be few a far between, and with easy tools to mute annoying players it shouldn't be a mayor issue. Like yeah... you might find someone who annoys you from time to time, but I think the ease to talk with random people you find in the wild will open new avenues to socialize and make friends inside the game, and I think that would be potentially a pretty amazing experience.

My voice sounds like shit across general low grade electronics.

You definitely don’t want to hear it on shitty equipment or prox chat.

LadyZel

I'd have it off permanently. There isn't enough maturity out there to make it a worthwhile experience for me.

People will be annoying. They will play obnoxious music. They will make random noises, use unpleasant language, and sound like the unwanted cousin the neanderthals left to die in the wilderness.

If most people were mature, and you could have normal interactions, I'd keep it on, but in my experience it rarely happens.

Meztopheles

superhero6785 wrote: »

I think Ashes should be an industry leader in community moderation tools. Having the ability to mute & submit feedback on a player, and then having intelligent systems to automatically apply similar actions for those who opt in.

So, let's say someone is blasting music through proxy chat:
-20 nearby players all mute the offending player for "proxy chat spam" within a timeframe.
-System flags user as a spammer.
-Settings have options to auto mute proxy chat spammers for a configurable duration.
-Similar settings for global chat spammers, auto-deny friend/trade requests, auto block private messages, etc.

We can have nice things if we also have the tools to effectively moderate it ourselves. It will only be a problem temporarily until these "bad apples" are eventually just moderated into a single player experience because they lack the social nicities to play with others.

If they had a robust system where you could auto-mute players that others have reported as being obnoxious prox chat spammers, then maybe I'd be more inclined toward it. It would just require a lot of development and testing that could be used elsewhere, so I'm unsure if the opportunity cost would be worth it; but I wouldn't complain about a system like that as long as it worked well. I still imagine most people just turning off prox chat though.

Kionashi

DrDefault wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

DrDefault wrote: »

Proximity chat is great and if people act toxic just whisper a gm, they’re going to be active in the game. So, I don’t see it as a nonissue if they implement proximity chat.

In a game like Ashes, toxicity isnt against the rules.

That’s good then, I think toxicity is pretty healthy for a gaming community that’s pvp centric. I really can’t stand the false positivity that people try to push online because it’s bullshit anyways.

I mean, one thing is thrash talking or sassy banter, and another thing is flaming and death threats....

Depraved

just ignore it...

Ezk1

I'm all for proximity voice, of course there will be annoying people, but lots of awesome stuff out weights that.
Maybe you need to be certain level to use it, to discourage risking your account? I play a lot games with open voice system nowadays, and generally its positive. Also, lets be real, we will never get back to level of those old-school Halo/CoD lobbies =D

DrDefault

Kionashi wrote: »

I mean, one thing is thrash talking or sassy banter, and another thing is flaming and death threats....

Like I said, report it.

Gizban

Nope.
Most people are self centered and members of the 'fur the lulz' group.

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