I find the cleric skills cluttered

I think it's overly complicated. To me any heals that function is so many similar ways that don't really define each heal spell in a way that IMO dose not justify at least 1/2 of the heal skills.

I don't even get some of the combos. Like a skill that makes you run to point black range of a friendly target. And another skill that heals a point blank friendly target. Why are these two skills instead of just one? IMO there is just too many healing skills and options. It seems cluttered.

IMO these skills for healing needs to be slim lined. I have played a healer in many MMOs for many years. I think having one skill having options is great but you need only a few skills. Splash heal, HoT, Large Volume heal and a group heal. Some utilities, like sheilds and the like.. I do like the cone heal and adding that flavor to more heals would be great. Heal and damage. Or heal and buff/debuffs. Making the Cleric more of a battle healers would be great.

As is. I don't get this class so far. It does not have a theme or a direction of the type of healer or what the twist that makes this class stand out. Just seems to be a bunch of random good ideas that don't meld together.

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Mag7spy

Seeing come complexity to combos people can be using was fresh air to me, and shows the skill level will be important and allowing them to create more challenging pve.

Chicago

You are 100% right mate, i think people are having recency bias on the video and it doesnt help narc posting videos titled " best healing of all time", as someone that has played a healer it does not look lile great gameplay, some of the instant cast spells look fun but idk i feel their should be a minimum of 6-7 healing skills with maybe talent trees to modify the skills making them play different, as people have pointed out you wont use all 18 but alot of them seem pretty similar and in this day and age with min maxing, every build will be pretty xookiecutter i suspect

George_Black

Chicago wrote: »

You are 100% right mate, i think people are having recency bias on the video and it doesnt help narc posting videos titled " best healing of all time", as someone that has played a healer it does not look lile great gameplay, some of the instant cast spells look fun but idk i feel their should be a minimum of 6-7 healing skills with maybe talent trees to modify the skills making them play different, as people have pointed out you wont use all 18 but alot of them seem pretty similar and in this day and age with min maxing, every build will be pretty xookiecutter i suspect

It looks 10000 times better than esos puny hotbars and no cooldowns.

Depraved

back when lots of skills was the norm (and remember those days in wow where you had to use the same skill 3 or 4 times, different skill levels? lol) no one wanted few skills and people complained that there werent enough skills on your bars. now that games have few skills, people complain about having many skills in their bars .-.

Mag7spy

Chicago wrote: »

You are 100% right mate, i think people are having recency bias on the video and it doesnt help narc posting videos titled " best healing of all time", as someone that has played a healer it does not look lile great gameplay, some of the instant cast spells look fun but idk i feel their should be a minimum of 6-7 healing skills with maybe talent trees to modify the skills making them play different, as people have pointed out you wont use all 18 but alot of them seem pretty similar and in this day and age with min maxing, every build will be pretty xookiecutter i suspect

What mmorpg are you comparing it to healing wise? What what do those mmorpgs have that AoC doesn't have in healing?

Dygz

nanfoodle wrote: »

Was not my point. I want a flavor of what Ashes is trying to make and this was a cluster of skills. I get now that these are not skills every Cleric will have. If I could amend my OP. I would like Ashes team give us one of the attended skil sets a Cleric would have. Let us see a vision over a large scope of what could be. People need to see how IS wants these classes to look and play. This demo did not help. Gaming forums elsewhere are saying things like "I don't get it" "this looks like a jumble of skills" "are we to have that many healing skills on my skill bar?"

I think, for that, you will have to wait until we are testing Alpha 2.
Steven said in the demo that we didn't have to have all of those Active Skills in the hotbar.
It's not a "skill bar". Two of those slots held potions.
Clerics have a bunch of Active Skills for Healing - many of the ones demoed in July we had not seen before.

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