make all preorder packs available for a couple weeks

For those of us that feel like we missed out on some of the earlier packs, how about making them all available for like two weeks so we can buy our favorite pack?

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Caww

Blightuponusall wrote: »

Caww wrote: »

A simple change in color palette of each item pack would allow them to offer what has already been developed.

Didn't they already say that they were going to have each skin available, but looking a bit different, as achievable items in game?

I know they said that NPCs will be using modified costumes/parts and other objects would be re-used as well but @Liniker threw cold water on players getting a chance for them...

darthaden

The point was to have them limited. I probably won't even use mine most of the time. I'd rather use cosmetics that I earn in game rather then purchased with real life money. I bought in the Kickstarter for the Alpha access and that sweet lifetime sub

wakkytabbaky

ive never grasped the whole FOMO thing, like oh no i cant get those 200 different cosmetics im never going to use.most people find 1 awesome cosmetic they like and use it 99.9999999% of the time ingame.

sheesh when i get bored and go back to wow every 6-9 months my old characters are still using old xmogs from 10 yrs ago and i never change em. the ones that have come and gone are more like thankyou cosmetics for supporting the game early on , its no different than getting your name in the credits.

steven did say in the latest stream that newer cosmetics when they are released will probably be on a rotation so just stick to those and if you miss out you can get em later

Aszkalon

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Aszkalon wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

No.

O Rly ? >:-]

Really.

No way !! (lol)

RazThemun

Great way for a lawsuit to be brought against them..... Limited time only purchases with a start and end date should not be offered at a later time to other consumers.

Noaani

Sweatycup wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Abarat wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Niem Lumel wrote: »

Would not be the first time IS has lied to us.

I'm curious as to when you think they have lied to us in the past.

Crossbows... duh.

Not sure if serious - going to assume you are.

That wasn't a lie at all. In order for something to be a lie, you need to know it wasn't true when you said it.

With crossbows, it was true that they would be in game, right up until it wasn't true any more. At that point, they told us about the change.

There is "A" crossbow, it's a bow crossbow. Or rather just a bow skin. Ive never heard of them changing or getting rid of the skin? Although if they are going to rig a character pulling a crossbow string back for one skin might as well at some point just add crossbows in my opinion.

I support them dropping all the packs again. However i fear it may be too late for that for now. Perhaps we may be given the option to buy any and all past skins/packs before release of the official version (Non-alpha or beta).

This wasn't a lie, and I am not sure why you would think it is.

Kilion

Jindoshi wrote: »

They could generate a lot more cash by offering all the packs for a short time.
There are a lot of us that didn't know this game existed until a couple months ago..

And there are tons of kickstarter backers and early buyers who took much greater risks than you - I am not included in that btw. The thing is this: Intrepid derisked the project with every new livestream made and one can make an argument that everyone had equal excess to the information on this project as well as that people who backed it earlier were rewarded with more (and potentially "cooler") options.

Another perspective I wrote about on a similar threat is that of natural flow in game development. When coming up with a new world lore it is natural that the first events tend to be more ground shaking and guiding for this world, they are automatically more serious (because of their impact) and more epic. But as the world building continues you - as the designer - have to fill the world with more than just epic stuff, there are creatures and people in all of these worlds blissfully unaware of the surrounding chaos etc. That cosmetics therefore may turn less epic, maybe dull or whacky is in that sense part of the natural progression in world building more than intentional.

And as a last point: Why are the cosmetics even relevant to the point that they would need bringing back? To Intrepid they aren't, the game is fully funded and Steven has made the commitment to finance it till launch. Additionally bringing back the packs would seriously piss off the customer base that was longest to stick around by going back on their word regarding access to these cosmetics. To players these cosmetics aren't really important either, as they don't really have any purpose in the game beyond looking fancier than others at launch.

TheDarkSorcerer

I just gave in and purchased the $250 pre order pack. I am feeling excited, yet nervous. Because I just spent $250 on something I have no idea what end product I'm gonna get. It's like gambling.

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Kilion

I doubt you'd still be following this game if you would seriously believe that Steven spread false information with the intent to do so for Intrepids gain.

RocketFarmer

Why not just make a donation if you really want to give your money. Why take something of value from someone else, or are you even considering that point in this request?

I think one creation initiative Intrepid could undertake is bespoke customized items for those who want to make the donation. Would have to be set up to not take resources away from development and maybe even allow them to branch into other areas of development using that seed money. Not sure what the resource dedication is to produce a monthly pack, but a bespoke service would be on the same level and priced accordingly.

Does Intrepid open a gift shop during Alpha 2? Alpha 2/ Beta keys are tied to numbers.

All that said I would rather have a fully customized in game cosmetic system than the monetary purchases. That to me would signal a well designed game delivered to the players. But I do understand some folks want collectibles.

Aszkalon

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

I just gave in and purchased the $250 pre order pack. I am feeling excited, yet nervous. Because I just spent $250 on something I have no idea what end product I'm gonna get. It's like gambling.

Welcome to the Club, DarkSorcerer-Senpai.

Ruerik

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

I just gave in and purchased the $250 pre order pack. I am feeling excited, yet nervous. Because I just spent $250 on something I have no idea what end product I'm gonna get. It's like gambling.

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Noaani

Niem Lumel wrote: »

Liniker wrote: »

@Caww @Jindoshi @Niem Lumel

StevenSharif wrote: »

Hello friends, a quick clarification on the shop cosmetics.

There will not be recolors or material swaps on the monthly cosmetics as a means to populate additional achievements in game by player characters.

cosmetics are set to be exclusive and that includes recolors, so none will be available to either buy or obtain, they are gone.

Why are you mentioning me? Are you trying to argue that Steven has not lied to the AoC community?

@Niem Lumel

When has he lied?

Galaturc

(absolutely) no.

Galaturc

Jindoshi wrote: »

They could generate a lot more cash by offering all the packs for a short time.
There are a lot of us that didn't know this game existed until a couple months ago..

That would disenfranchise those who have been following the game for a long time and put their faith and money into this project (without even an alpha 2 date in sight). Steven, as financially savvy as he is, knows that kind of customer loyalty is more valuable than a few millions of dollars he may cash in.

Now that we all know the alpha 2 date is near, you desire to access not just the same privileges the rest of this invested community had, but more than what they had, by having access to ALL the unique individual cosmetics they invested in.

Liniker

Caww wrote: »

Why are you mentioning me? Are you trying to argue that Steven has not lied to the AoC community?

You've been around for what? 1 year?

Steven has never lied to the community, if you gonna make a dumb claim like that, back it up with arguments, or just take off your tinfoil hat and go touch some grass 🤦🏻‍♂️

Noaani

Liniker wrote: »

Caww wrote: »

Why are you mentioning me? Are you trying to argue that Steven has not lied to the AoC community?

You've been around for what? 1 year?

Steven has never lied to the community, if you gonna make a dumb claim like that, back it up with arguments, or just take off your tinfoil hat and go touch some grass 🤦🏻‍♂️

Indeed.

I'm as harsh on Intrepid as anyone, I have no issue calling it bullshit.

I haven't seen anything that could be considered a lie in the time I've been following the game.

Caww

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Caww wrote: »
Why are you mentioning me? Are you trying to argue that Steven has not lied to the AoC community?

Liniker; You've been around for what? 1 year?

Steven has never lied to the community, if you gonna make a dumb claim like that, back it up with arguments, or just take off your tinfoil hat and go touch some grass 🤦🏻‍♂️

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Caww never wrote this or had anything thing to do with that exchange about lying....... it was only thru a mish-mash of the forum "Quote" system than Caww appeared at the beginning of a someone else's text quote.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET THE RECORD STAND CORRECTED !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you for your diligence and attention to this reputationally distracting occurrence, Caww

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