You say, 'Hail, Bumle Reminjar' Bumle Reminjar says, 'Welcome, ______. The Cathedral of Underfoot welcomes all good persons. May you find peace from the dangers of Butcherblock within these walls. The paladins of this holy place are very much aware of the evils outside Kaladim. The threat of goblins and [birdmen] has increased.' You say, 'What birdmen' Bumle Reminjar says, 'The birdmen I speak of are the aviak krags. These vile creatures have desecrated our land. They have dared to perch upon our great statue. The king has instructed all noble paladins in this order to [destroy the krag chicks].' You say, 'I will destroy the krag chicks' Bumle Reminjar says, 'Yes. You are known to have aided our cause. You shall continue by returning any aviak chick talons to me. I will reward you for the return of no fewer than four at a time. Go, and serve the will of the king!' Upon the death of a Krag Chick or an aviak chick Your faction standing with Krag got worse. Your faction standing with Storm Guard got better. Hand Bumle Reminjar 4 Aviak Chick Talons, randomly looted from a Krag Chick or an aviak chick roaming throughout the Butcherblock Mountains Bumle Reminjar says, 'Well done, ______! Thanks for the Aviak Chick Talons.
Sathrago wrote: » After recently hopping into an everquest private server called Quarm, I really have to agree that the older styles of questing really scratch that itch. Most should know that wow was their attempt to streamline and improve upon the EQ design of the time, and I think it did just that. having to actually pay attention and search out quests has been quite fun. Honestly though, with recent improvements in A.I. I would really, really like to see a style of questing where you can talk to npcs that can somewhat hold a conversation with their own personalities, likes, dislikes, and discoverable quests through dialog.https://youtu.be/uE1QFZFLJnY ^ this game is a pretty spot on example of what im talking about here. I think theres a nice middle ground you can reach between Everquest's style of quest dialog, and this new A.I. stuff. Below is a string of dialog you have to play through in order to do these quests. You have to type out these responses to get to the next part of the quest. Now imagine you are talking with an a.i. that can work with vague or round about questions/answers. You say, 'Hail, Bumle Reminjar' Bumle Reminjar says, 'Welcome, ______. The Cathedral of Underfoot welcomes all good persons. May you find peace from the dangers of Butcherblock within these walls. The paladins of this holy place are very much aware of the evils outside Kaladim. The threat of goblins and [birdmen] has increased.' You say, 'What birdmen' Bumle Reminjar says, 'The birdmen I speak of are the aviak krags. These vile creatures have desecrated our land. They have dared to perch upon our great statue. The king has instructed all noble paladins in this order to [destroy the krag chicks].' You say, 'I will destroy the krag chicks' Bumle Reminjar says, 'Yes. You are known to have aided our cause. You shall continue by returning any aviak chick talons to me. I will reward you for the return of no fewer than four at a time. Go, and serve the will of the king!' Upon the death of a Krag Chick or an aviak chick Your faction standing with Krag got worse. Your faction standing with Storm Guard got better. Hand Bumle Reminjar 4 Aviak Chick Talons, randomly looted from a Krag Chick or an aviak chick roaming throughout the Butcherblock Mountains Bumle Reminjar says, 'Well done, ______! Thanks for the Aviak Chick Talons.
Depraved wrote: » Sathrago wrote: » After recently hopping into an everquest private server called Quarm, I really have to agree that the older styles of questing really scratch that itch. Most should know that wow was their attempt to streamline and improve upon the EQ design of the time, and I think it did just that. having to actually pay attention and search out quests has been quite fun. Honestly though, with recent improvements in A.I. I would really, really like to see a style of questing where you can talk to npcs that can somewhat hold a conversation with their own personalities, likes, dislikes, and discoverable quests through dialog.https://youtu.be/uE1QFZFLJnY ^ this game is a pretty spot on example of what im talking about here. I think theres a nice middle ground you can reach between Everquest's style of quest dialog, and this new A.I. stuff. Below is a string of dialog you have to play through in order to do these quests. You have to type out these responses to get to the next part of the quest. Now imagine you are talking with an a.i. that can work with vague or round about questions/answers. You say, 'Hail, Bumle Reminjar' Bumle Reminjar says, 'Welcome, ______. The Cathedral of Underfoot welcomes all good persons. May you find peace from the dangers of Butcherblock within these walls. The paladins of this holy place are very much aware of the evils outside Kaladim. The threat of goblins and [birdmen] has increased.' You say, 'What birdmen' Bumle Reminjar says, 'The birdmen I speak of are the aviak krags. These vile creatures have desecrated our land. They have dared to perch upon our great statue. The king has instructed all noble paladins in this order to [destroy the krag chicks].' You say, 'I will destroy the krag chicks' Bumle Reminjar says, 'Yes. You are known to have aided our cause. You shall continue by returning any aviak chick talons to me. I will reward you for the return of no fewer than four at a time. Go, and serve the will of the king!' Upon the death of a Krag Chick or an aviak chick Your faction standing with Krag got worse. Your faction standing with Storm Guard got better. Hand Bumle Reminjar 4 Aviak Chick Talons, randomly looted from a Krag Chick or an aviak chick roaming throughout the Butcherblock Mountains Bumle Reminjar says, 'Well done, ______! Thanks for the Aviak Chick Talons. you can do that without AI, and its easier and faster T_T
Sathrago wrote: » Depraved wrote: » Sathrago wrote: » After recently hopping into an everquest private server called Quarm, I really have to agree that the older styles of questing really scratch that itch. Most should know that wow was their attempt to streamline and improve upon the EQ design of the time, and I think it did just that. having to actually pay attention and search out quests has been quite fun. Honestly though, with recent improvements in A.I. I would really, really like to see a style of questing where you can talk to npcs that can somewhat hold a conversation with their own personalities, likes, dislikes, and discoverable quests through dialog.https://youtu.be/uE1QFZFLJnY ^ this game is a pretty spot on example of what im talking about here. I think theres a nice middle ground you can reach between Everquest's style of quest dialog, and this new A.I. stuff. Below is a string of dialog you have to play through in order to do these quests. You have to type out these responses to get to the next part of the quest. Now imagine you are talking with an a.i. that can work with vague or round about questions/answers. You say, 'Hail, Bumle Reminjar' Bumle Reminjar says, 'Welcome, ______. The Cathedral of Underfoot welcomes all good persons. May you find peace from the dangers of Butcherblock within these walls. The paladins of this holy place are very much aware of the evils outside Kaladim. The threat of goblins and [birdmen] has increased.' You say, 'What birdmen' Bumle Reminjar says, 'The birdmen I speak of are the aviak krags. These vile creatures have desecrated our land. They have dared to perch upon our great statue. The king has instructed all noble paladins in this order to [destroy the krag chicks].' You say, 'I will destroy the krag chicks' Bumle Reminjar says, 'Yes. You are known to have aided our cause. You shall continue by returning any aviak chick talons to me. I will reward you for the return of no fewer than four at a time. Go, and serve the will of the king!' Upon the death of a Krag Chick or an aviak chick Your faction standing with Krag got worse. Your faction standing with Storm Guard got better. Hand Bumle Reminjar 4 Aviak Chick Talons, randomly looted from a Krag Chick or an aviak chick roaming throughout the Butcherblock Mountains Bumle Reminjar says, 'Well done, ______! Thanks for the Aviak Chick Talons. you can do that without AI, and its easier and faster T_T then it wouldnt be what im asking for because I dont see how you could have it respond and talk to a person in that manner without a.i. having set responses to set queries is not the same as having information that can be negotiated for.
Veeshan wrote: » i had a good chuckle every time he said mobs were strong in WoW coming from Everquest where a lvl 1 mob can 1v1 solo at times Anyway on topic here i dont think it necessarily quests that made it memorable Vanilla WoW was the start of a major shift in development direction when it came to MMORPG let me explain Old school MMO like Everquest, Runescape and so on design philosophy was making a world where players exist in Compared to modern day MMO where there design philosophy is player first and world later. Old school mmo vanilla wow and before felt like you were in a world not in a game, nowadays everything is so streamline and stripped anything that could be a inconvenience from the world which made the world feel like a game and not the feeling of being in a different world. The removal of inconviences i think was what killed the magic of MMORPG world WoW was the beginning of the end of the magic of MMORPG, they added a couple of conviences that older games didnt have and with every expansion/patch they slowly removed more and more inconviences and all game companies also follows this path and the magic that was once there is no longer there anymore. Ashes of creation seems to be branching off and modernising the oldschool MMO and i hoping they manage to capture the magic once again with creation a world over a game.
