Block list for healing

Since you can loose exp and resources when dying it might be a bit stressful for some people to play on cleric
When someone in your party die and loose resources he can(will for sure) blame you for that

I want block list mechanic for healing (next gen for sure)
When someone in my block list he is not receiving healing from my AOE spells
If this mechanic will exist people will be SO polite to healers
Thank you for your attention

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Solvryn

Chastiefol wrote: »

Since you can loose exp and resources when dying it might be a bit stressful for some people to play on cleric
When someone in your party die and loose resources he can(will for sure) blame you for that

I want block list mechanic for healing (next gen for sure)
When someone in my block list he is not receiving healing from my AOE spells
If this mechanic will exist people will be SO polite to healers
Thank you for your attention

No one is entitled to respect because they chose to play a role.

This just sets a precedent where someone with a poor attitude and flawed character can play a healer and create problems for others.

Noaani

In my experience, the few healers that actually get blamed enough to consider it an issue are actually the ones at fault themselves.

Ive blamed healers for deaths and wipes a number of times. However, every time it has been because it was their fault. By far the most common version of this is when they werent where they were supposed to be (and where they were told to be), and then tried to blame others for being out of their range. If the healer were doing as they were told, the person that was out of their range (and doing what they were told) would have been in said healers range.

Generally speaking, if you are constantly being blamed for being a poor healer (enough to ask for game systems to attempt to stop it), you are probably a poor healer.

Blood_Raven

The only option that I have seen for this is simply make any aoe heal only heal your group and no one else.

Noaani

Blood_Raven wrote: »

The only option that I have seen for this is simply make any aoe heal only heal your group and no one else.

My expectation is that some AoE heals will be group only, some will be raid only, and some will be any nearby ally.

It seems an oversight to me to not have every option - in a game where players can basically pick and chose which abilities they have.

Depraved

Chastiefol wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

Chastiefol wrote: »

Since you can loose exp and resources when dying it might be a bit stressful for some people to play on cleric
When someone in your party die and loose resources he can(will for sure) blame you for that

I want block list mechanic for healing (next gen for sure)
When someone in my block list he is not receiving healing from my AOE spells
If this mechanic will exist people will be SO polite to healers
Thank you for your attention

dont invite them to party? olol

also dont be bitter and resentful. if they blame u who cares? pl usually blame others. ur still farming. keep healing and keep farming

You have very few experience in MMO i think
You can be in guild with such people you don't like to heal
You can meet them on BG in your raid
You can meet them on Siege in your raid
You can meet them on WB in your raid

and? we arent in my little pony world. sometimes you get a dick in your party if you dont have a constant party. im not gonna let him die anyways. i want to beat the raid, i want to win the siege, i wanna win the pvp, etc. so ill heal.

people get too hurt over words from a stranger on the internet.

Dryadez

I'm telling you sometimes just asking them what you could of done better is actually a big help to you. Maybe you forgot to use a certain ability, or your priorities were off, or your gear needs some tweaking. I've had team members that just tell me "wow you're bad" and I'm like "ok what can I do better" and they usually actually take the time to help you (probably surprised that you didn't just shade them back) because it's definitely been my fault more than a handful of times.

Depraved

Dryadez wrote: »

I'm telling you sometimes just asking them what you could of done better is actually a big help to you. Maybe you forgot to use a certain ability, or your priorities were off, or your gear needs some tweaking. I've had team members that just tell me "wow you're bad" and I'm like "ok what can I do better" and they usually actually take the time to help you (probably surprised that you didn't just shade them back) because it's definitely been my fault more than a handful of times.

i completely agree with you, but lets be honest, sometimes we get some leeroy jenkins in our party xDDD.

what i usually do whether i play healer or not is test the waters fist. playing with people i dont know? or a new area with people i know? we dont go in and pull everything. we try 1 mob, then 2 or 3, etc, nd see how much we can handle.

also, sometimes, when someone fks up really badly, the best thing to do is to let them die and res, otherwise you put the entire party in danger

Dryadez

Depraved wrote: »

Dryadez wrote: »

I'm telling you sometimes just asking them what you could of done better is actually a big help to you. Maybe you forgot to use a certain ability, or your priorities were off, or your gear needs some tweaking. I've had team members that just tell me "wow you're bad" and I'm like "ok what can I do better" and they usually actually take the time to help you (probably surprised that you didn't just shade them back) because it's definitely been my fault more than a handful of times.

i completely agree with you, but lets be honest, sometimes we get some leeroy jenkins in our party xDDD.

what i usually do whether i play healer or not is test the waters fist. playing with people i dont know? or a new area with people i know? we dont go in and pull everything. we try 1 mob, then 2 or 3, etc, nd see how much we can handle.

also, sometimes, when someone fks up really badly, the best thing to do is to let them die and res, otherwise you put the entire party in danger

right I don't think the first place my mind goes to is "What did you just say? Ok enjoy no heals, actually added to ignore, now you perma get no heals and when I forget you are on my ignore list along with 500 other people because I can't take criticism and weeks later we end up in a raid together people will wonder why you're dying so much and we keep crashing"

Liikkee thats just not it

Enigmatic Sage

Classic,
Damage role being dumb dumbs blaming the healers for not out healing their skill issues situationally.
Healers complaining they cant out heal their groups skill issues and demand to be over-tuned so players play them more.

I will say though, Tank and Healers usually have a lot more pressure thrown on them over the damage role especially with how bad the damage role players generally are across many games.

I've seen and heard it all. The arguments, the blame game, the stupidity, the low skill issues, the excuses.

daveywavey

Chastiefol wrote: »

Since you can loose exp and resources when dying it might be a bit stressful for some people to play on cleric
When someone in your party die and loose resources he can(will for sure) blame you for that

I want block list mechanic for healing (next gen for sure)
When someone in my block list he is not receiving healing from my AOE spells
If this mechanic will exist people will be SO polite to healers
Thank you for your attention

Just tell them that you can only heal damage, you can't heal stupid.

Chastiefol

Tyranthraxus wrote: »

Chastiefol wrote: »

....When someone in your party die and loose resources he can(will for sure) blame you for that....

When yours truly is playing healer? The problem isn't me; it's you.

I don't play healer classes at all, only tanks and mages
Just think this is cool mechanic that I offered

Chastiefol

Vaknar wrote: »

I'm curious OP, are there any problems you see with this idea? Perhaps the same as other's have pointed out, or any that you can think of?

Are there any other ways in which you think the problem you feel could be solved? Perhaps it's worth dissecting the core of your concern further

Look forward to hearing additional thoughts on this!

I have 3 friends who gonna play AOC with me on A2 and 2 of them are healers in any other projects. BUT both of them because of reason I mentioned going to choose dps. Thats why I just offered this function.
It would be great if you will release some other mechanics that allow healers feel better in game with such great responsibility
thank you for replying

Noaani

Chastiefol wrote: »

Tyranthraxus wrote: »

Chastiefol wrote: »

....When someone in your party die and loose resources he can(will for sure) blame you for that....

When yours truly is playing healer? The problem isn't me; it's you.

I don't play healer classes at all, only tanks and mages
Just think this is cool mechanic that I offered

It really isnt.

If you are responsible for healing someone in a grouo or raid, if they are blocked in the way you suggest you will still not heal them.

If the blocked player doesnt know they are blocked, if they were going to comment on you not healing them they will still do so.

On the other hand, if they know they are blocked, youll probably just be booted from the content.

You're a healer. Your job is to heal those thst need it. Refusing to do thst for some of those you are present to heal just means you arent doing properly fulfilling your role.

It is nit a good suggestion at all. It is actually a really bad suggestion that has literally zero practical benefit to anyone.

daveywavey

Just to expand on bits that others have said:

If you're in an 8-player group, and you don't like this one of them so you let them die due to blocking their healing, your whole group is affected by the death of that player. Either your group DPS drops for the whole fight, or you have to have group members stopping their own rotations in order to revive that dead player, who is then just going to die again cos you're not healing them.

Very soon, no-one will want to group with you at all.

It's just not a concept that's going to work very well. If the problem is jerks being jerks, then confront the jerks, don't punish the rest of your group because of them.

Depraved

Noaani wrote: »

Chastiefol wrote: »

Tyranthraxus wrote: »

Chastiefol wrote: »

....When someone in your party die and loose resources he can(will for sure) blame you for that....

When yours truly is playing healer? The problem isn't me; it's you.

I don't play healer classes at all, only tanks and mages
Just think this is cool mechanic that I offered

It really isnt.

If you are responsible for healing someone in a grouo or raid, if they are blocked in the way you suggest you will still not heal them.

If the blocked player doesnt know they are blocked, if they were going to comment on you not healing them they will still do so.

On the other hand, if they know they are blocked, youll probably just be booted from the content.

You're a healer. Your job is to heal those thst need it. Refusing to do thst for some of those you are present to heal just means you arent doing properly fulfilling your role.

It is nit a good suggestion at all. It is actually a really bad suggestion that has literally zero practical benefit to anyone.

agreed. its a tantrum suggestion. imagine if the dps had a special block list where they could add rude healers to it, and those healers wont get any exp or loot when the dps killed a mob.

Noaani

Depraved wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Chastiefol wrote: »

Tyranthraxus wrote: »

Chastiefol wrote: »

....When someone in your party die and loose resources he can(will for sure) blame you for that....

When yours truly is playing healer? The problem isn't me; it's you.

I don't play healer classes at all, only tanks and mages
Just think this is cool mechanic that I offered

It really isnt.

If you are responsible for healing someone in a grouo or raid, if they are blocked in the way you suggest you will still not heal them.

If the blocked player doesnt know they are blocked, if they were going to comment on you not healing them they will still do so.

On the other hand, if they know they are blocked, youll probably just be booted from the content.

You're a healer. Your job is to heal those thst need it. Refusing to do thst for some of those you are present to heal just means you arent doing properly fulfilling your role.

It is nit a good suggestion at all. It is actually a really bad suggestion that has literally zero practical benefit to anyone.

agreed. its a tantrum suggestion. imagine if the dps had a special block list where they could add rude healers to it, and those healers wont get any exp or loot when the dps killed a mob.

Dammit.

Now I want this.

Chastiefol

Depraved wrote: »

imagine if the dps had a special block list where they could add rude healers to it, and those healers wont get any exp or loot when the dps killed a mob.

My dear summer child it's called master loot and exist since the beginning of genre

Noaani

Chastiefol wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

imagine if the dps had a special block list where they could add rude healers to it, and those healers wont get any exp or loot when the dps killed a mob.

My dear summer child it's called master loot and exist since the beginning of genre

Ive never seen a master loot system that prevents people getting experience. Nor have i ever seen one that is handed to DPS to use as opposed to being the specific person that is the leader of the group.

By your logic, the system you are asking for already exists - its called booting the person out of your group.

Depraved

Chastiefol wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

imagine if the dps had a special block list where they could add rude healers to it, and those healers wont get any exp or loot when the dps killed a mob.

My dear summer child it's called master loot and exist since the beginning of genre

bruh, you know not every game handles loot like that right? and not every party / guild.

but even then, imagine if the dps could put you in a block list so that you dont get any rewards for the damage he did. so you wont even get a chance to get anything? or if the tank could put you in a block list so that when he aoe agro mobs, any mobs that are hitting you wont get aggroed and kill you, because you were rude to him before.

i mean its only fair...

Dryadez

I feel like this thread is pretty much done with

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