Naugrimur wrote: » Yes Intrepid, that´s how you make real money with your item shop. One would and could only buy one item for himself, but one can buy many items for others. GIFTING will multiply your income. Just sayn, you should not miss out on that.
Hinotori wrote: » One can also argue it opens an avenue for possible pay to win transactions
Caww wrote: » Hinotori wrote: » One can also argue it opens an avenue for possible pay to win transactions Gifting cosmetic items to other accounts is one of the easiest and simplest Pay-to-Win schemes available. The impact is somewhat limited to gold/gear passing between accounts, not like buying gold from a website, but it can still be used to transfer ingame gold/gear to users with spare RL cash.
Depraved wrote: » ... your wife ...i mean...she is making you dinner and doing the dishes and the laundry.
Caww wrote: » Depraved wrote: » ... your wife ...i mean...she is making you dinner and doing the dishes and the laundry. your wife does dinner, dishes and the laundry ? Damn... you got it sweet....
unknownsystemerror wrote: » Wife confirmed P2W
Enigmatic Sage wrote: » unknownsystemerror wrote: » Wife confirmed P2W sounds high maintenance.
unknownsystemerror wrote: » Enigmatic Sage wrote: » unknownsystemerror wrote: » Wife confirmed P2W sounds high maintenance. Actually quite low. 2 hours downtime on a Thursday for "reset"
Depraved wrote: » well, whats the difference between you farming 10 hours a day then giving some items to your wife who only plays 2 hours a day? for example. is that okay because its free? i mean...she is making you dinner and doing the dishes and the laundry. if you had to do that you would have less time to play! what if you are giving items to a girl and she is sending you nudes in exchange? what if you are playing with a friend and you are giving him items just because? what if you have a guild and you decide to give an item every week to a random person in the guild, like the winner of a guild event or something? so the only reason its bad its because someone is spending money? gifting allow players to buy cosmetics for their friends, for example. i dont see it as a bad thing. you could also hrie mercenaries in exchange for cosmetics instead o fpaying with in game items. even if you traded cosmetics for in game items, someone had to farm those. if i farm the most powerful sword in the game, and then give it to you for a cosmetic, then guess what? im not using it. there is still only one in the server and it doesnt matter who has it. if im not killing bob with it, then you are.
Tyranthraxus wrote: » Depraved wrote: » well, whats the difference between you farming 10 hours a day then giving some items to your wife who only plays 2 hours a day? for example. is that okay because its free? i mean...she is making you dinner and doing the dishes and the laundry. if you had to do that you would have less time to play! what if you are giving items to a girl and she is sending you nudes in exchange? what if you are playing with a friend and you are giving him items just because? what if you have a guild and you decide to give an item every week to a random person in the guild, like the winner of a guild event or something? so the only reason its bad its because someone is spending money? gifting allow players to buy cosmetics for their friends, for example. i dont see it as a bad thing. you could also hrie mercenaries in exchange for cosmetics instead o fpaying with in game items. even if you traded cosmetics for in game items, someone had to farm those. if i farm the most powerful sword in the game, and then give it to you for a cosmetic, then guess what? im not using it. there is still only one in the server and it doesnt matter who has it. if im not killing bob with it, then you are. Because what you're describing/alluding to in this is in-game trade; There wasn't real money involved that people can use, as a shortcut to enjoying the fruits of your in-game labor.
Enigmatic Sage wrote: » They did hit their $30 million crowd funding goal and then some. Would be a real shame if they didn't continue to allow people to support the game with no box price, a monthly subscription fee and cosmetics. Players can easily just send money directly to someone pay pal account for no reason too as a "gift".
unknownsystemerror wrote: » Enigmatic Sage wrote: » They did hit their $30 million crowd funding goal and then some. Would be a real shame if they didn't continue to allow people to support the game with no box price, a monthly subscription fee and cosmetics. Players can easily just send money directly to someone pay pal account for no reason too as a "gift". The "crowdfunding" portion of Ashes was 3 million, not 30. The pre-order packages sold on the website are not considered crowdfunding by them, and the preorder packages if Steven's quote of 100k people with A2 access in their packages in Jan 2023 is true, they have made way more than that from sales.
